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'The People Performance Podcast', brought to you by industry leading learning & development consultancy T2. Simply put, human performance refers to how people do what they do, and why they do it that way. You'll hear in-depth discussions, captivating stories, practical techniques and interviews with high level guests - All amounting towards a collection of episodes covering new weekly topics that provide you with light bulb moments time and time again. Listen and subscribe to the ultimate resource you need to improve and develop your performance.

  1. 12/15/2025

    Moving Horizons: How to Master Uncertainty - With Ex Navy Seal Commander Rich Diviney

    In this episode of the People Performance Podcast, Martin Johnson, is joined by former Navy SEAL commander and author Rich Diviney. The discussion centres on human performance, focusing primarily on Rich's second book, Masters of Uncertainty, and related concepts. The main topics covered include: Uncertainty, Anxiety, and Fear: Martin and Rich discuss how humans deal with uncertain situations and pressure. Fear is hypothesised to be the combination of external uncertainty and internal anxiety. Anxiety is described as "fiction" because it is always focused on the future. They explore the neurological and evolutionary reasons for the fear response (the "lizard" or "chimp" brain taking over) and the goal of mastering oneself to "degrade fear" and perform effectively. Moving Horizons (Duration, Pathway, Outcome): This technique is presented as a way to "buy down uncertainty". It involves taking a large, overwhelming situation and chunking it down into an immediate goal, creating a new, controllable Duration, Pathway, and Outcome (DPO). This process helps prevent feeling overwhelmed by the entire situation and gives the brain a reward (dopamine hit) for reaching the shortened horizon. Optimal Performance: Martin and Rich argue against the societal pressure (often driven by social media) to be at "peak" performance all the time. Optimal performance is instead defined as doing the best you can with the time and resources available, which includes moments of high flow, "gutting it out," and even recovery. Trust and The Attributes: The conversation briefly touches on Rich Diviney's first book, The Attributes, which profiles 41 human attributes. They discuss trust as being built on four factors: Competence, Consistency, Character, and Compassion. They also emphasise a leader's responsibility to model the desired behaviours first and reward them. Social Links Instagram - ttps://www.instagram.com/peopleperformancepodcast/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/t2-thepeopleperformancepeopleTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@peopleperformancepod

    59 min
  2. 12/08/2025

    Navigating Leadership: The Six Styles for Situational Success

    In this episode of the People Performance Podcast, T2 consultants James Cooper and Spencer Locker, deep-dive into leadership styles based on the situational leadership model used by T2.  The key takeaway is that effective leaders must be able to adapt and deploy the most appropriate leadership style for a given situation and the mindset of the person they are leading, rather than relying on a single, default style. The six leadership styles discussed are: Visionary : Getting people behind the long-term dream or "flag on the hill". It sells the why without giving day-to-day steps. Deploying it inappropriately can be ineffective if people are missing strategy or need immediate answers. Amiable : Focuses on peace, harmony, and promoting trust within the team and environment (psychological safety).  Coaching : Utilising coach-like skills for development and improvement. It involves helping people find their own ways to address strengths and weaknesses. It is deployed when people are open to development but may not be performing as desired. Collaborative : Proactively bringing people together to be inclusive and involve them in decision-making, especially in newly established but knowledgeable teams. This style can establish a collaborative culture where the leader may eventually step back to be just the decision-maker. Pace Setting : Setting high standards and moving at pace, but only when appropriate and with competent people. It should not be mistaken for micromanaging; it is about providing high-quality intelligence and giving people the freedom to apply themselves. It is used to challenge and push people beyond competency to avoid complacency. Directive : Characterised by a lack of ambiguity and absolute clarity, not aggression or confrontation. It's a "call to action" and is appropriate in critical situations, like emergency services, where clear instructions are paramount. In a performance context, it gives a clear choice with consequences for growth or further conversation. Social Links Instagram – ⁠https://www.instagram.com/peopleperformancepodcast/⁠ LinkedIn – ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/t2-thepeopleperformancepeople⁠ TikTok – ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@peopleperformancepod⁠

    31 min
  3. 12/01/2025

    The Science & Psychology Behind Stubbornness

    In this Leader Lounge episode Martin discusses the linked concepts of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. Cognitive Dissonance Definition: The mental discomfort experienced when a person holds two or more conflicting beliefs or when their actions contradict their beliefs/values. It's the psychological tension of knowing something isn't right or won't serve you well, but doing it anyway. Example: Knowing smoking is bad for you but doing it regardless. Result: It can feel uncomfortable and create a strong desire for avoidance. Confirmation Bias Definition: The tendency to search for, interpret, and recall information in a way that confirms your pre-existing beliefs, while ignoring or downplaying contradictory evidence. Process: When you predetermine an outcome, you reframe evidence that suggests you are wrong or search for opposing evidence to back up your own narrative. This is done to avoid challenging your own beliefs. Link to Dissonance: Confirmation bias is presented as the strategy for dealing with cognitive dissonance. Because admitting you are wrong is difficult and uncomfortable, confirmation bias provides an easier way to justify your actions and avoid confronting reality. Closed Loop Thinking (Confirmation Bias): Pre-determining the outcome, closing off the loop, and only seeking information that confirms your initial position. Open Loop Thinking (The Strategy): Not pre-determining the outcome or fixing views too early, and instantly asking, "Am I right?". This is a positive approach because it pauses natural confirmation bias. It involves seeking facts, evidence, reflection, and other people's points of view (especially those with polar opposite views). This vulnerability and effort can lead to a more balanced position and help seek the truth. Martin also talks about external influences, such as friends who only validate your narrative or social media, can supercharge confirmation bias. Ultimately, the choice is between fighting to reinforce your narrative (confirmation bias/stubbornness) or choosing the harder path of open-loop thinking, admission, accountability, and vulnerability Social LinksInstagram - ttps://www.instagram.com/peopleperformancepodcast/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/t2-thepeopleperformancepeopleTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@peopleperformancepod

    21 min
  4. 11/24/2025

    Exploring Human Attributes: Why Some Of Your Weaknesses Can Actually Be Your Strengths

    In this Leader Lounge episode, Martin discusses the Attributes psychometric profile, a tool that stack-ranks 41 human attributes. Martin focuses on attributes that often divide opinion or cause discomfort: Narcissism: Defined as the desire to stand out, be noticed, recognised, or adored. It is not the same as narcissistic personality disorder. A normal level of narcissism is in everyone and can fuel high-achieving behavior. Cunning: The ability to consider problems from unusual or unorthodox perspectives to achieve a goal. It is a strength for problem-solving, as the "cunning mind" questions rules and boundaries. Task Switching: The ability to shift among tasks and contexts effectively without delay (not the debunked myth of multitasking). Empathy vs. Compassion: Empathy: The ability to feel what someone else feels. Compassion: The ability to show sympathy and concern (appreciating how someone feels without feeling it yourself). Low empathy can be an asset when making difficult decisions. Humility vs. Vulnerability: Humility: Self-awareness of one's own strengths and weaknesses. Vulnerability: The willingness to share those strengths and weaknesses with others. Generosity vs. Selflessness: Generosity: Giving more than necessary; often involves mutual benefit/reciprocation. Selflessness: Placing others' needs above one's own, despite personal risk or detriment. Selflessness is unsustainable long-term and can lead to resentment. Martin concludes that high is not good and low is not bad; understanding your unique attribute stack is key to becoming more self-aware. Social Links Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/peopleperformancepodcast/LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/t2-thepeopleperformancepeopleTikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@peopleperformancepod

    24 min

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'The People Performance Podcast', brought to you by industry leading learning & development consultancy T2. Simply put, human performance refers to how people do what they do, and why they do it that way. You'll hear in-depth discussions, captivating stories, practical techniques and interviews with high level guests - All amounting towards a collection of episodes covering new weekly topics that provide you with light bulb moments time and time again. Listen and subscribe to the ultimate resource you need to improve and develop your performance.

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