Greg and Tonya open with a Wall Street Journal piece on adult children deciding to cut off their parents—sometimes over politics, lifestyle differences, or advice from therapists and peers online. They push back on the idea that ordinary friction automatically equals “toxic,” and they talk through the real difference between biblical counsel that points toward repair and a therapy culture that often prioritizes feeling better right now.They share their own early-marriage story of setting clear boundaries with Greg’s mom (it wasn’t permanent, and it wasn’t easy), look at what Scripture actually says about honoring parents even when it’s hard (including 2 Timothy 3 and James on listening and anger), and name the tension between wanting to belong and being told to separate. They also talk about identity rooted in Jesus instead of self-discovery, the real enemy behind family division, and why prayer for the person you’re struggling with can change the room before anything else does.If you’ve felt the pull to step away from family—or you’re watching it happen around you—this is a grounded, practical conversation about boundaries that still leave room for relationship. Scriptures for further reference: 2 Timothy 3:1-5, James 1:19, James 1:21, James 1:22-25, James 1:26, Matthew 15:11, Matthew 7:24-27, Psalm 34, Psalm 91:4, Matthew 5:22, Matthew 5:44, 1 Peter 5:8, John 16:33, Matthew 16:18, Romans 10:17, 2 Peter 1:3 CHAPTERS 0:00 Welcome and the article that started the conversation 1:00 Family estrangement, therapy culture, and online peer advice 8:00 Biblical counseling versus modern therapy that focuses on feeling better 12:00 Their own story: boundaries with Greg’s mom early in marriage 15:00 When cutoffs happen—grandchildren, church families, and real harm 19:00 Identity in Jesus, the church as counsel, and why self-discovery falls short 21:00 2 Timothy 3, honoring parents, and last-days attitudes 24:00 Redefined “violence,” words versus real threat, and what actually shapes us 29:00 Parenting, generational trends, and who is supposed to inform a child’s identity 33:00 James on quick to listen, slow to speak, and defensiveness as anger 40:00 Therapy culture, affirmation over instruction, and owning your own reactions 45:00 Prayer, Psalm 34, and the real enemy behind family division 49:00 Closing prayer and practical next step