What happens when spiritual practices designed to liberate instead become tools of control? In this episode of A State of Mind, Julian sits down with educator, researcher, and ritualist Rayann Gordon to explore spiritual abuse, cult dynamics, and the hidden risks of coercive meditation environments. Together, they unpack how teachings around “no self,” thought dissolution, and surrender can undermine discernment, memory, and agency—and how healing begins by reclaiming choice, body wisdom, and an organic relationship with the sacred. This episode is for seekers, therapists, spiritual practitioners, creatives, and anyone navigating or recovering from high-demand spiritual groups. Why it matters: understanding these dynamics reduces shame, prevents harm, and helps people find their way back to themselves. Main Topics Covered What defines spiritual abuse and cult dynamics (beyond belief systems) How coercive control operates in spiritual and meditation settings The shadow side of “no self,” oneness teachings, and thought-stopping techniques Why meditation retreats can create conditions where abuse goes unnoticed or unreported The role of memory, discernment, and healthy ego in spiritual life Healing after spiritual abuse and reclaiming personal authority Rebuilding spirituality after leaving a high-demand group The importance of body care, creativity, awe, and beauty in recovery Key Takeaways Cults are defined by patterns of control and harm, not strange beliefs Healthy spirituality supports autonomy, discernment, and the freedom to choose Dissolving thoughts without balance can weaken decision-making and self-trust Healing often involves grief, creativity, and reconnecting with the body Authentic spiritual practice expands life—it doesn’t compress it Key Takeaways Cults are defined by patterns of control and harm, not strange beliefs Healthy spirituality supports autonomy, discernment, and the freedom to choose Dissolving thoughts without balance can weaken decision-making and self-trust Healing often involves grief, creativity, and reconnecting with the body Authentic spiritual practice expands life—it doesn’t compress it Connect with Rayann Gordon Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rayanngordon_/?hl=en Website: https://rayanngordon.com/ Connect with Julian Royce Somatic trauma informed therapy, Psychedelic assisted Therapy, Meditation training & more with Julian Royce: www.astateofmindtherapy.com Support the show: www.patreon.com/astateofmind Donate with Venmo: @Julian-RoyceInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianoceann/ Find Julian on SoundCloud at: https://soundcloud.com/julian-ocean-1Order Premium quality Shilajit from the sacred Ural Mountains of Russia. Message Julian for 20% off your order: www.astateofmindpodcast.com If this episode resonated with you, follow the podcast, like the episode, and share it with someone who may need this conversation. These stories help bring awareness, accountability, and healing to spiritual spaces.
