Miscarriage is often talked about as a woman’s experience—but what about fathers? In this conversation, we open up an honest, faith-centered discussion about pregnancy loss, grief, and the often-overlooked emotional journey men walk through. Whether you’ve experienced miscarriage or want to better support someone who has, this episode will help you understand what it really looks like to navigate loss as a family. In this episode, Mark shares his family's deeply personal story of an unexpected pregnancy—one that brought surprise, joy, and hope—followed by the sudden heartbreak of miscarriage. What unfolds is an unfiltered look at grief, confusion, and the spiritual questions that come with loss. From wrestling with “why” to dealing with isolation and unspoken expectations, this conversation sheds light on emotions many men feel but rarely express. Mark is joined by Eric Schumacher, who has walked through multiple miscarriages with his own family and now ministers specifically to fathers in this space. Together, they explore the unique challenges dads face—feeling overlooked, unsure how to process grief, and struggling to support their wives while carrying their own pain. This episode offers clarity, validation, and practical encouragement for anyone impacted by miscarriage, directly or indirectly. Resources mentioned: Book - "Ours: Biblical Comfort for Men Grieving Miscarriage" Book - "Dads Hurt Too" Eric's Website Topics covered: How miscarriage impacts fathers emotionally and spiritually Processing grief when you don’t feel “allowed” to grieve Supporting your wife while navigating your own loss Common lies and isolation men experience after miscarriage Why miscarriage is a community issue, not just a private one Faith, suffering, and asking hard questions in loss Practical ways to support families going through miscarriage Timestamps: 00:00 Unexpected introduction and guest setup 00:16 Why miscarriage became a personal issue for this family 01:22 Why this conversation matters—even if you haven’t experienced loss 02:09 Introducing Eric Schumacher and his ministry to fathers 02:50 Steven shares his family’s pregnancy story 03:23 The surprise of pregnancy later in life 04:05 Joy, hope, and envisioning a new season of parenting 05:09 Navigating uncertainty and early pregnancy concerns 05:43 The moment everything changed—loss and grief 06:13 Processing deep emotional pain and spiritual questions 07:13 Unique challenges of miscarriage later in life 07:44 Isolation, lies, and how grief affects men differently 08:23 A simple act of care that made a big impact 09:18 Why men need support too—and how to offer it 10:01 Why this episode took time to share publicly 10:31 Eric responds and reflects on the miscarriage experience 11:47 Eric’s personal story and journey through multiple miscarriages 13:45 The complexity of grief, silence, and community dynamics 16:22 Turning pain into ministry for fathers Transcript (first few minutes): Hey guys, I’m joined today by Eric Schumacher—and I have to tell you, he came across my radar because something that had never really crossed my mind until about three months ago became a central issue in our family. And that topic is miscarriage. I had known people that had been impacted by this, and my thoughts were mostly that this is really hard for women to go through—and husbands need to support their wives. But I have a 16-year-old a... Chapters (00:00:02) - A Father's Miscountation on The Abraham's Wallet Podcast(00:07:56) - Eric and Mark on Grief(00:09:46) - How to Talk About Miscarriage in the Church(00:17:37) - What Are the Common Experiences of Miscarriage?(00:19:51) - How to Help a Dad Through a Miscarriage(00:26:25) - How Long Should a Miscarriage Gave Me Grief?(00:32:43) - How to Grieve a Miscarriage(00:41:21) - Understanding Suffering in the Christian Life(00:46:23) - How to Be a Good Friend to Men Who've Lost a Baby(00:52:03) - Grief and the Abraham's WalletHelp us equip more biblical bosses!: https://abrahamswallet.com/support AW website | YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn