Compliance into the Weeds

Tom Fox

What happens when two compliance aficionados get together to talk all things compliance, risk management and ERM? You get Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance and Matt Kelly, the Coolest Guy in Compliance, going into the weeds of a topic each week. Each week, you can take a deep dive with two of the top writers, thinkers and prognosticators in compliance. 

  1. Carrots and Sticks in Washington: Antitrust Whistleblowers and an FCPA SOL Extension

    7H AGO

    Carrots and Sticks in Washington: Antitrust Whistleblowers and an FCPA SOL Extension

    The award winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly look two recent developments sending a common message to compliance teams.   First, DOJ antitrust official Daniel Glad warns that a new Antitrust Whistleblower Awards program and increased pursuit of prison time for individuals compress companies’ timelines to investigate and self-disclose, because insiders may report first and cost those firms potential leniency. Second, Senate Democrats led by Elizabeth Warren propose the FCPA Reinforcement Act to extend the FCPA statute of limitations from five to 10 years for an eight-year window, aiming to preserve future enforcement capacity for misconduct occurring now. They connect these “sticks” with “carrots” such as fast declinations for self-disclosure, emphasizing the need for robust compliance programs, strong reporting culture, prompt investigations, and clear decisions on disclosure regardless of who controls Washington.  Key Highlights  ·      Two Washington Signals ·      Antitrust Whistleblower Push ·      FCPA Reinforcement Act ·      Carrots Sticks and Culture ·      Why Internal Reporting Matters ·      Self Disclosure Through Line  Resources Matt in Radical Compliance here and here  Tom   Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn  A multi-award winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of a Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcast and a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, Communicator and w3 Award, all for podcast excellence.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    19 min
  2. SDNY’s New Declination Policy: Crime Categories, Cooperation, and Compliance Implications

    MAR 4

    SDNY’s New Declination Policy: Crime Categories, Cooperation, and Compliance Implications

    The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly look at the recently announced new Southern District of New York standard for Declinations. They look at SDNY U.S. Attorney Jay Clayton’s newly released self-disclosure/cooperation/declination policy and its implications for corporate compliance. While the core elements, prompt voluntary disclosure, cooperation, remediation, and restitution, mirror existing DOJ expectations, they highlight a significant change: SDNY now treats “aggravated circumstances” as certain categories of crimes that are categorically ineligible for declinations, including foreign corruption/FCPA, sanctions evasion, terrorism, sex trafficking with minors, smuggling, drug cartels, and forced labor, rather than focusing on offense traits such as senior management involvement or recidivism. They note potential inconsistencies with DOJ’s corporate enforcement approach, uncertainty about disclosure timing despite references to promptness and pre-investigation disclosure, broad discretion in enforcement, and the risk of forum shopping. Key highlights: Why SDNY Declinations Matter Clayton Policy Key Changes Aggravated Circumstances Redefined FCPA Carve Out Confusion Timing and Disclosure Pressure Cooperation Restitution Disgorgement Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance Tom in the FCPA Compliance and Ethics Blog Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    23 min
  3. FCPA Trial Rarity: Charles Hobson Convicted

    FEB 25

    FCPA Trial Rarity: Charles Hobson Convicted

    The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly look at the recent conviction of Charles ‘Hunter” Hobson for FCPA violations. Former Corsa Coal senior sales executive Charles Hunter Hobson was found guilty in Pennsylvania of helping arrange roughly $4.8 million in bribes to officials tied to a state-owned Egyptian coal company, using an intermediary, to secure about $143 million in contracts. Also, Hobson allegedly pocketed about $200,000. Tom and Matt  Hobson’s unsuccessful “dog bite” defenses. They also discuss tensions between corporate and individual accountability, the practical reality that companies may cooperate and “turn on” individuals, and that individuals can also expose companies by cooperating with prosecutors. Finally, they speculate on why DOJ pursued trial amid shifting enforcement signals, referencing other recent FCPA matters (Millicom DPA, Smartmatic indictment) and past DOJ trial losses, and conclude that the best approach is to avoid bribery and avoid being the “last man standing.” Key highlights: Hobson Case Overview Dog Bite Defense Breakdown Payment Red Flags Declinations and Individual Risk Why Go to Trial? Resources Matt in Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    24 min
  4. Truth Stranger the Fiction: Binance, Iran, Crypto and Compliance

    FEB 18

    Truth Stranger the Fiction: Binance, Iran, Crypto and Compliance

    The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly look at recent reporting on Binance that raises questions about the effectiveness of its compliance program, monitorships, and executive attitudes toward compliance. They recap Binance’s 2023 resolution of U.S. criminal and civil matters involving money laundering and sanctions evasion. They discuss the Fortune article, which reported that Binance continued to route funds through its platform to the Iranian government in 2024 and into 2025. They highlight Mr. Zou’s public response on X, suggesting that if investigators found misconduct, it implied they failed to prevent it, which the hosts criticize as a misunderstanding that business units own risk and that compliance’s role is to provide systems, channels, oversight, and escalation rather than “prevent” all misconduct. Key highlights: Truth Stranger Than Fiction in Compliance Binance’s 2023 Guilty Plea, $4.3B Penalty & Two Monitorships Compliance Team Fallout: Investigators Fired & CCO on the Move ‘If You Found It, You Failed’: Why CEOs Misunderstand Compliance Iran as the Red Line: Plea Agreement Breach, Politics, and Corruption Risk Will Anyone Enforce This? Rule of Law Questions and What Comes Next Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    20 min
  5. NPAs, Escalation and Ethics in Competing

    FEB 11

    NPAs, Escalation and Ethics in Competing

    The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly look at three recent stories to draw compliance lessons for the future. They discuss significant developments in compliance, focusing on Jay Clayton’s recent speech regarding FCPA enforcement and the implications for companies. They also analyze a case involving the termination of compliance officers at Scotiabank for failing to escalate concerns about insider trading. The conversation concludes with a reflection on athlete decision-making in the context of injuries and the lessons for corporate compliance practices. Key highlights: Jay Clayton’s Speech and White Collar Crime Prosecution Compliance Officers and Escalation Failures at Scotiabank Ethics in Sports: Decision-Making and Compliance Lessons Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    28 min
  6. The Reality of AI Adoption in Corporate Compliance

    FEB 4

    The Reality of AI Adoption in Corporate Compliance

    The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly examine three recent surveys that examine the real-world impact of AI adoption in corporate environments. Recording from Alexandria, Virginia, where Matt is attending a conference on ethical governance of AI, Matt and Tom discuss the differing perceptions of AI’s benefits between senior executives and other employees. They explore findings from PWC, Section, and Workday surveys, uncovering a significant gap in AI’s perceived value. The discussion highlights the challenges of integrating AI, the significant rework required by employees, and the struggle to build trust in AI tools. They also debate whether enterprise-scale AI deployment or incremental, point-specific adoption is the best path forward. Key highlights: Conference on Ethical AI Governance Reality Checks on AI Adoption AI Rework and Employee Training Concerns Trust Issues with AI Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    28 min
  7. The Essence of Leadership and Why Donald Trump Is Not a Role Model

    JAN 28

    The Essence of Leadership and Why Donald Trump Is Not a Role Model

    The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of #ComplianceintotheWeeds, Tom Fox, and Matt Kelly look at the leadership failures from Donald Trump and his administration after the killing of Alex Pretti last weekend. This episode has significant editorial commentary. Matt and Tom critically examine the behavior and leadership failings of Donald Trump and his Administration in the wake of the shooting of Alex Pretti and argue that his approach is far from exemplary for CEOs or business leaders. The discussion highlights the essence of effective leadership as the ability to instill trust and direction, contrasting this with Trump's history of questionable business acumen and the allegations of his disastrous lying to the American people. The takeaway is that true leadership involves integrity, trustworthiness, and the ability to inspire and guide employees toward a common goal, traits that Trump is argued to lack.  Key highlights: Comparing CEOs to Donald Trump Crisis of hyper-transparency Corporate responses. Were they enough or a first step? Leadership and Trust Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    26 min
  8. Addressing Retaliation Against Compliance Officers: Strategies and Insights

    JAN 21

    Addressing Retaliation Against Compliance Officers: Strategies and Insights

    The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly look at the challenges of retaliation against Chief Compliance Officers (CCOs). They highlight the need for ongoing communication between compliance officers and senior management, and share strategies for CCOs to mitigate personal risk. The discussion includes real-world examples, the role of senior management in fostering a compliant culture, and the importance of scenario planning and training to prepare for potential issues. The episode emphasizes proactive measures such as charm offensives and preemptive remediation plans to navigate and defuse potential retaliatory scenarios. Key highlights: Real-Life Examples of Retaliation Management’s Perception and Compliance Challenges Building Relationships with Senior Management Proactive Compliance Strategies to Prevent Retaliation Framing Compliance Training Like Cybersecurity Drills Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    24 min

Ratings & Reviews

4.1
out of 5
13 Ratings

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What happens when two compliance aficionados get together to talk all things compliance, risk management and ERM? You get Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance and Matt Kelly, the Coolest Guy in Compliance, going into the weeds of a topic each week. Each week, you can take a deep dive with two of the top writers, thinkers and prognosticators in compliance. 

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