The Thermostat with Jason Barger

Jason V Barger
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A thermostat is proactive. It sets the temperature in a room. Controls the temperature. Regulates the temperature. But in today's distracted, fast-paced and digital world, it's easy for individuals and organizations to act more like thermometers, slipping into reactionary thinking, becoming scattered and inconsistent. The most compelling leaders, teams, organizations, families or collection of humans of any kind operate in thermostat mode. They calibrate their mind and heart to set the temperature for the vision and culture they want to create. Jason Barger, globally celebrated author, keynote speaker and founder of Step Back Leadership Consulting, guides this journey to discover authentic leadership, create compelling cultures and find clarity of mission, vision and values. Learn more at JasonVBarger.com or on social media @jasonvbarger

  1. Special Final 4 Episode with Clark Kellogg

    1D AGO

    Special Final 4 Episode with Clark Kellogg

    CBS Analyst, Clark Kellogg, joins Jason Barger for a special Final 4 episode to celebrate March Madness and talk about the lessons around leadership, culture and performance that play out right in front of our eyes each year. Jason is joined by his friend and CBS Sports analyst, Clark Kellogg, for a special Final Four edition of the podcast focused on the intersection of high-stakes athletics and elite organizational health. See the Complete Show Notes https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/special-final-four-clark-kellogg/ Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: When the pressure of a global stage meets the "agony of defeat" and the "thrill of victory," what determines who rises to the top? In this special Final Four episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger sits down with legendary analyst Clark Kellogg to examine why the NCAA Tournament is the ultimate laboratory for leadership in teams. Beyond the buzzer-beaters, they analyze the "mosaic" of human interest stories and cultural standards that define championship-caliber organizations. This conversation moves beyond standard sports commentary to address the core mechanics of performance under pressure. Clark and Jason explore the "85/15 Ratio"—the belief that while tactical coaching is vital, 85% of success is driven by the habits, standards, and accountability ingrained in the players themselves. They also explore the concept of "Thermostat Players"—the value-utility "glue guys" who keep a team connected when the external temperature rises. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, managers, and team leaders, this episode offers a nuanced look at how to pivot during misfortune, the importance of "repeated beingness" in high-stakes moments, and how to build a corporate culture that remains poised when the win probability is against you. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason welcomes listeners to a special Final Four edition, setting the stage for a conversation on the leadership lessons that play out in front of our eyes every March. [00:02] The Mosaic of March: Clark Kellogg describes the first two weeks of the tournament and why the dramatic finishes and human stories provide a unique look at human resilience. [00:04] Rising to the Forefront: A look at teams like High Point and Michigan—how groups remain on a mission even when they lose a "key cog" in their organizational structure. [00:05] The Thin Line: Clark analyzes the "same coin" of victory and defeat, exploring how a single pass or turnover defines the trajectory of an entire season. [00:07] Poise in the Clutch: Jason and Clark examine the "Thermostat Culture" of teams like UConn and Purdue. How do leaders stay calm and execute when trailing by 19 points or facing a neck-and-neck finish? [00:11] The Physicality of Culture: A look at Iowa's surprising win over Florida and the parallels to the legendary Butler teams—why culture is something you have to "be in the gym" to truly feel. [00:14] Identifying "Glue Guys": A discussion on thermostat players—the value-utility individuals who don't always top the stat sheet but are essential for team cohesion and trust. [00:19] The 85/15 Ratio: Clark deconstructs the influence of a leader. Why coaching is most impactful in setting expectations and habits long before the "pressure moment" arrives. [00:23] Indianapolis & The Big Ten: Reflections on the Final Four host city and the strategic mission of the teams vying for the national championship. Key Takeaways for Leaders: Culture Over Tactics: Focus your leadership on the "85%"—the standards and habits that allow your team to execute even when you aren't actively directing them. The Power of the Pivot: View misfortune or the loss of a team member as an opportunity for "utility players" to rise and reveal hidden organizational talent. Setting the Temperature: High-performance teams don't reflect the chaos of their environment; they calibrate back to their identity and remain poised under pressure. Listen to the full episode and access show notes at: https://jasonvbarger.com/podcast/final-four-clark-kellogg/ Bio: Jason Barger is a husband, father, speaker, and author who is passionate about business leadership and corporate culture. He believes that corporate culture is the "thermostat" of an organization, and that it can be used to drive performance, innovation, and engagement. The show features interviews with business leaders from a variety of industries, as well as solo episodes where Barger shares his own insights and advice. Connect: Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JasonVBarger Make Your 2026 Effective! Book Jason with your team at https://www.jasonvbarger.com Like or Follow Jason 👍 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbarger/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/jasonvbarger/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/jasonvbarger/ X:  https://x.com/JasonvBarger

    27 min
  2. Change-Seeking Leaders and Cultures

    4D AGO

    Change-Seeking Leaders and Cultures

    What does it mean to be a Change-Seeker? The most effective leaders and team cultures may just be intentional about seeking the change they desire. Jason explores the findings of the Harvard Global Leadership Development Study and the roadmap for building a "change-seeking" organizational culture. Read the Complete Show Notes Here including the Harvard Global Leaders Study: https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/change-seeking-leaders/ Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In a world where technology, market trends, and workplace expectations shift at lightning speed, how do the most effective organizations move from simply surviving to truly thriving? In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger examines a critical mandate from the recent Harvard Global Leadership Development Study: the necessity of cultivating a "change-seeking" organizational culture. This conversation moves beyond standard change management theory to address the mindset required to stimulate progress. Jason breaks down his "6 A's of Leading Change"—a disciplined, intentional process that moves from initial assessment to permanent anchoring. He explores why most teams fail by jumping straight to action without alignment, and how executives can use clear language to drive the behaviors necessary for a future-proof corporate culture. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, HR directors, and team leaders, this episode offers a tactical guide for anyone ready to challenge the status quo. Jason provides actionable insights on moving from "busyness" to effectiveness, ensuring that leadership in teams is rooted in a clear, shared vision for the road ahead. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason sets the stage for a conversation on what it means to be a change seeker in a rapidly evolving world. [00:03] The Harvard Mandate: An overview of the recent Global Leadership Development Study and its #1 recommendation for organizations looking to thrive in 2026. [00:06] Defining the Change Seeker: Why looking in the mirror is the first step to improving systems, cultures, and team experiences. [00:09] The Trap of "Busyness": Differentiating between being busy and being effective, and why leaders must resist the urge to jump to action without a process. [00:10] The 6 A's Framework: Jason introduces the structured process for leading change: Assess, Align, Aspire, Articulate, Act, and Anchor. [00:11] Step 1 & 2: Assess & Align: The importance of being brutally honest about your current state and building a sense of urgency across the team. [00:12] Step 3 & 4: Aspire & Articulate: How painting a clear vision and using intentional language serves as the primary driver for desired behaviors. [00:14] Step 5 & 6: Act & Anchor: Connecting vision to tangible action and embedding change into the organizational DNA through hiring, onboarding, and development. [00:15] Leading with Intention: A closing reflection on why change is led by discipline and commitment rather than by accident. Key Takeaways for Leaders: Proactive Progress: Shift your team from a reactive posture to a "change-seeking" mindset that looks for improvement in every system. Language Drives Behavior: Utilize clear, articulated values to ensure every team member understands the vision they are being asked to own. Intentional Anchoring: Ensure the longevity of your initiatives by weaving change into your operational habits and leadership development programs. Listen to the full episode and access show notes at: https://jasonvbarger.com/podcast/change-seeking-leaders/ Bio: Jason Barger is a husband, father, speaker, and author who is passionate about business leadership and corporate culture. He believes that corporate culture is the "thermostat" of an organization, and that it can be used to drive performance, innovation, and engagement. The show features interviews with business leaders from a variety of industries, as well as solo episodes where Barger shares his own insights and advice.   Co nnect: Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JasonVBarger Make Your 2026 Effective! Book Jason with your team at https://www.jasonvbarger.com Like or Follow Jason 👍 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbarger/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/jasonvbarger/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/jasonvbarger/ X:  https://x.com/JasonvBarger

    18 min
  3. Direct Feedback that Confronts Organizational Sharks

    MAR 24

    Direct Feedback that Confronts Organizational Sharks

    Some problems grow quickly like sharks. Jason Barger talks about the direct candor required to help leaders and teams get out in front of obstacles. Jason explores the essential role of courage in leadership and why the most effective teams are those that address challenges while they are still "baby sharks." View Full Show Notes https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/direct-feedback-confronts/ Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In the complex ecosystem of modern business, the most dangerous predators aren't always external competitors. Often, they are the unresolved conflicts and unaddressed behaviors lurking beneath the surface of your own office. In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V. Barger examines the core mechanics of courage and why the most effective teams are those that master the art of direct, candid communication. This conversation moves beyond standard management advice to address the psychological hurdles of speaking up. Jason introduces a striking biological metaphor: the "Organizational Shark." Issues within a team—whether they are toxic behaviors or missed expectations—start as small, manageable problems. If ignored, they grow at an exponential rate, eventually becoming "Great Whites" that threaten the very fabric of your corporate culture. Drawing on the wisdom of Mr. Rogers, Jason explains why making a challenge "mentionable" is the first step toward making it "manageable." Essential listening for C-Suite executives, HR directors, and team leaders committed to leadership in teams, this episode offers a strategic framework for spotting conflict early, deconstructing the toxic cycle of triangulation, and leveraging high emotional intelligence to stimulate progress. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason sets the stage for a conversation on courage and the tips needed to confront big challenges in personal and professional life. [00:01] Milestones: A reflection on reaching 320+ episodes and the commitment to breathing "good oxygen" into leadership mindsets around the world. [00:03] The "Mentionable" Philosophy: Insights from Mr. Rogers on why talking about our feelings and challenges makes them less overwhelming and more actionable. [00:06] The Elford Story: Jason shares a story from a recent session with Jamie Fields and the leaders at Elford regarding the surprising biological reality of sharks. [00:08] Kill the Baby Sharks: A deep look at why leaders must deal with issues when they are small before they grow into "Great White" problems that sink morale. [00:09] The EQ Framework: A breakdown of the personal and social competencies of Emotional Intelligence and why 58% of professional success relies on reading the room. [00:11] Deconstructing Triangulation: A classic leadership trap explained—how Person A and Person B use Person C to avoid direct feedback, and how to redirect that energy for health. [00:13] The Reality of Candor: A discussion on whether direct communication is truly "realistic" in a modern workplace and why the best teams choose the difficult path of directness. [00:15] Questions to Ponder: Jason leaves leaders with a set of strategic inquiries to help them identify and address the sharks in their own organizations. Key Takeaways for Leaders: Proactive Conflict Resolution: Identify "baby sharks" (minor issues) early to prevent them from maturing into systemic organizational crises. Direct Communication: Eliminate triangulation by encouraging team members to speak directly to one another rather than involving third-party "Person Cs" in grievances. The EQ Advantage: Cultivate self-awareness and social competency to manage behaviors and relationships effectively during high-pressure moments. Listen to the full episode and access show notes at: https://jasonvbarger.com/podcast/direct-feedback-sharks/ Bio: Jason Barger is a husband, father, speaker, and author who is passionate about business leadership and corporate culture. He believes that corporate culture is the "thermostat" of an organization, and that it can be used to drive performance, innovation, and engagement. The show features interviews with business leaders from a variety of industries, as well as solo episodes where Barger shares his own insights and advice. Connect: Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JasonVBarger Make Your 2026 Effective! Book Jason with your team at https://www.jasonvbarger.com Like or Follow Jason 👍 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbarger/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/jasonvbarger/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/jasonvbarger/ X:  https://x.com/JasonvBarger

    18 min
  4. Flourishing Leaders with Boris Maguire & Oli Raison

    MAR 17

    Flourishing Leaders with Boris Maguire & Oli Raison

    What does it mean to flourish as leaders and cultures? Jason Barger is joined by the Founders of Safarini Leadership in dialogue about lessons from tribal elders. Jason is joined by Boris Maguire and Oli Raison, founders of Safarini Leadership, for a fascinating conversation on how indigenous wisdom from Northern Kenya can transform modern executive leadership. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In an era of hyper-connectivity but profound human disconnection, what can global executives learn from the nomadic Samburu tribe? In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V. Barger connects with Boris Maguire and Oli Raison to explore the Safarini Leadership Project. By guiding leaders on foot through Africa's remote landscapes, Boris and Oli facilitate an intersection between modern corporate strategy and ancient tribal wisdom. https://safarinileadership.com/ The conversation centers on Naboisho—the Samburu concept of "coming together"—and how it serves as a blueprint for resilience and corporate culture. They address the "culture of narcissism" in Western leadership and offer a radical alternative: a model where leadership in teams is a collective act of service rather than a quest for personal power. From "eternal accountability" to the "lazy tree of wisdom," this episode challenges the standard metrics of success and redefines what it means for a leader to truly flourish. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, founders, and people leaders, this episode offers a cross-cultural perspective on generational collaboration, the strategic value of self-awareness, and the necessity of purpose-driven connection in the 2026 workplace. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason introduces the Safarini Leadership Project and the concept of "breathing good oxygen" into global leadership. [00:02] Meet Boris & Oli: The founders share their journey from tech and energy sectors to leading transformational treks in Northern Kenya. [00:07] The Philosophy of Naboisho: Oli explains the Samburu belief of "we are because they are" and how communal resilience is built in the world's harshest climates. [00:11] The Flourishing Study: Boris connects Safarini's work to the Global Human Flourishing Study, emphasizing why purpose and human connection are core business strategies. [00:15] The Autonomy-Connection Balance: A look at how modern society has prioritized independence at the cost of the connections that allow leaders to thrive. [00:20] The Age Set System: A deep dive into Samburu social structure. How they handle generational transitions and mentorship without the friction often found in Western organizations. [00:24] Consistency of Values: Boris discusses how ritualized investment in the next generation ensures a cultural torch is passed on without losing its flame. [00:28] Eternal Accountability: A powerful story of a debt repaid 70 years later, illustrating how the "E.A.T." (Empathy, Accountability, Trust) framework works in an oral culture. [00:34] The Lazy Tree of Wisdom: Oli explains the Samburu approach to time and why prioritizing harmony over speed leads to more sustainable decision-making. [00:42] The 30% Engagement Boost: Boris cites data on how self-aware leaders drive higher profit and why immersion in a "radically different" culture is the ultimate teacher. Key Takeaways for Leaders: Collective Leadership: Shift from the "CEO as hero" model to a participatory culture where leadership is an act of service for the whole. Time Awareness: Reframe time not just as a commodity to be spent, but as an experience to be shared, allowing for deeper listening and consensus. Radical Immersion: Understand that true self-awareness often requires stepping completely out of your home culture to see your own leadership "thermostat" clearly. Listen to the full episode and access show notes at: https://jasonvbarger.com/podcast/flourishing-leaders-boris-maguire-oli-raison/ Bio: Jason Barger is a husband, father, speaker, and author who is passionate about business leadership and corporate culture. He believes that corporate culture is the "thermostat" of an organization, and that it can be used to drive performance, innovation, and engagement. The show features interviews with b usiness leaders from a variety of industries, as well as solo episodes where Barger shares his own insights and advice. Connect: Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JasonVBarger Make Your 2026 Effective! Book Jason with your team at https://www.jasonvbarger.com   Like or Follow Jason 👍 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbarger/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/jasonvbarger/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/jasonvbarger/ X: https://x.com/JasonvBarger

    47 min
  5. Top Lessons Your Team Can Learn From March Madness

    MAR 10

    Top Lessons Your Team Can Learn From March Madness

    Each year, the March Madness NCAA basketball tournaments remind us of valuable lessons as it relates to leadership, team cultures, belief, strategy and execution. Jason explores the intersection of high-stakes athletics and organizational health, revealing how the drama of the "Big Dance" provides a blueprint for building championship-caliber teams. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: Every March, the world stops to watch underdogs topple giants and teams achieve the impossible. But if we only see the basketball, we miss the masterclass in corporate culture and leadership in teams happening right in front of us. In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger deconstructs why the most talented rosters often flame out while "connected" teams advance. In an era of transactional recruiting and high-priced talent, March Madness serves as a powerful reminder that culture—not just capital—drives sustainable performance. Jason identifies the five critical elements that allow teams to thrive under immense pressure: unwavering belief, visible connection, proactive responses to adversity, agile execution, and intentional leadership. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, managers, and anyone leading a group through "madness," this episode offers a strategic framework for calibrating your team's thermostat. Learn how to foster a spirit of shared ownership and why "being in the dance" is the first step to an extraordinary breakthrough. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason welcomes listeners to Season 10, setting the stage for a conversation on the universal leadership lessons found in the greatest three weeks in sports. [00:03] The CBS Jingle: A look at why March represents hope, camaraderie, and the annual reminder that any team can accomplish something exceptional. [00:06] Talent vs. Culture: Why the most expensive rosters don't always win and how "transformational recruiting" creates teams that play better together than they do individually. [00:08] The "In the Dance" Mindset: A discussion on opportunity and possibility. If your team has a seat at the table, they have the potential to advance. [00:09] Element 1: Unwavering Belief: The foundational role of shared conviction. Jason highlights historical "Cinderella" stories as case studies in the power of collective belief. [00:10] Element 2: Visible Connection: How to spot a winning culture through body language, role clarity, and a unified mission. [00:11] Element 3: Owning the Stumble: A look at how elite teams handle adversity without finger-pointing or blame, choosing instead to stay calm in the chaos. [00:12] Element 4: Preparation & Agility: The intersection of a solid plan and the ability to execute adjustments in real-time. [00:13] Element 5: Setting the Temperature: How leaders use gratitude and focus to bring out the best in others during high-pressure moments. [00:15] Selection Sunday & Scouting: Jason shares his passion for the game and invites listeners to connect on social media for deeper bracket analysis and culture-building tips. Key Takeaways for Leaders: Reciprocal Accountability: Build a team where everyone owns the outcome, especially when the "bounce of the ball" doesn't go your way. Transformational Culture: Move beyond transactional management. Focus on how your "best five" can play together, rather than just acquiring five "best individuals." Calibrating the Response: Train your team for adversity so that when the "madness" arrives, your collective response is proactive rather than reactive. Listen to the full episode and access show notes at: https://jasonvbarger.com/podcast/top-lessons-march-madness/ Bio: Jason Barger is a husband, father, speaker, and author who is passionate about business leadership and corporate culture. He believes that corporate culture is the "thermostat" of an organization, and that it can be used to drive performance, innovation, and engagement. The show features interviews with business leaders from a variety of industries, as well as solo episodes where Barger shares his own insights and advice. Connect: Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JasonVBarger Make Your 2026 Effective! Book Jason with your team at https://www.jasonvbarger.com Like or Follow Jason 👍 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbarger/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/jasonvbarger/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/jasonvbarger/ X:  https://x.com/JasonvBarger

    18 min
  6. AI Raises the Bar on EQ

    MAR 3

    AI Raises the Bar on EQ

    In a world of constant change and advances in technology, Artificial Intelligence is also raising the bar on Emotional Intelligence. Jason Barger explains. Jason explores the critical intersection of high-tech and high-touch, explaining why the rise of Artificial Intelligence makes human Emotional Intelligence more valuable than ever before. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: As we move toward a future where AI handles our data, our schedules, and even our strategic analysis, what remains for the human leader? In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger deconstructs the "AI" of Authentic Interaction. He argues that rather than making leaders obsolete, technology is actually raising the bar for corporate culture and leadership in teams. Drawing from recent Forbes predictions for 2030 and current workforce trends, Jason identifies why the "scarcity premium" of the next decade will be placed on empathy, transparency, and genuine human connection. This conversation moves beyond the "scary" or "exciting" headlines of automation to address the core mechanics of how elite leaders build high-trust ecosystems. Essential listening for C-Suite executives and managers navigating the technological tide, this episode offers a strategic framework for doubling down on the traits that AI cannot duplicate: vulnerability, motive transparency, and authentic purpose. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason welcomes listeners to Season 10, reflecting on over 300 episodes dedicated to calibrating the leadership thermostat. [00:03] The AI Paradox: Why artificial intelligence is the most discussed topic in boardrooms today and the spectrum of fear and excitement surrounding it. [00:06] Predictions for 2030: A breakdown of the Forbes forecast—from AI therapists and accountants to the normalization of humanoid robots in the workplace. [00:08] The Authentic Interaction (AI) Framework: Jason introduces his thesis: The more advanced technology becomes, the more humans crave authentic interaction. [00:09] Authenticity as a Trust Driver: Revisiting the three pillars of trust (Authenticity, Logic, and Empathy) and why showing up genuinely is now a competitive advantage. [00:10] Pillar 1: Genuineness: The importance of leaders admitting imperfections and sharing their vision to attract and retain top talent. [00:11] Pillar 2: Transparency: How proactive sharing of information and motives prevents the "manipulation" trap and drives engagement. [00:12] Pillar 3: Connection: Addressing the fundamental human need to belong to a mission greater than oneself, which no algorithm can satisfy. [00:13] Closing Questions: Jason leaves leaders with a challenge to evaluate how they are valuing the human experience in a technological age. Key Takeaways for Leaders: The Scarcity Premium: Recognize that as tasks become automated, human-centric leadership traits (EQ) become your most valuable assets. Motive Transparency: Build trust by being radically transparent about the "why" behind strategic shifts and technological adoption. Culture as an Ecosystem: Focus on building a "Human-First" culture that uses technology to enhance, not replace, human connection. Listen to the full episode and access show notes at: https://jasonvbarger.com/podcast/ai-raises-the-bar-on-eq/ Bio: Jason Barger is a husband, father, speaker, and author who is passionate about business leadership and corporate culture. He believes that corporate culture is the "thermostat" of an organization, and that it can be used to drive performance, innovation, and engagement. The show features interviews with business leaders from a variety of industries, as well as solo episodes where Barger shares his own insights and advice. Connect: Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JasonVBarger Make Your 2026 Effective! Book Jason with your team at https:/ /www.jasonvbarger.com Like or Follow Jason 👍 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbarger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonvbarger/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jasonvbarger/ X: https://x.com/JasonvBarger

    15 min
  7. Culture-Making with Margaret Andrews

    FEB 24

    Culture-Making with Margaret Andrews

    Cultures are impacted by emotional intelligence and closing the gap between our intentions and our actions. Jason is joined by author and Harvard professor, Margaret Andrews, for an engaging conversation. Jason is joined by Margaret C. Andrews, Harvard University professor and seasoned executive, for a masterclass on the interpersonal dynamics that drive modern organizational success. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In an era where employee engagement has hit a ten-year low, how do elite leaders bridge the gap between corporate vision and the daily human experience? In this episode, Jason V. Barger sits down with Margaret C. Andrews to explore the shift from "soft skills" to "power skills." Margaret, a faculty member at Harvard who has worked with giants like Amazon and the United Nations, shares why emotional intelligence (EQ) and self-awareness are the ultimate competitive advantages in 2026. This conversation moves beyond theoretical management to the heart of "Culture-Making." Jason and Margaret deconstruct the "knowing-doing gap"—the space between understanding leadership principles and actually embodying them under pressure. They explore the critical distinction between being a "culture taker" versus a "culture maker," and how executives can use perspective-taking to resolve the cultural dissonance that often leads to cynicism and turnover. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, academic leaders, and managers at all levels, this episode offers a nuanced look at generational diversity, the "Chief Culture Officer" role of the CEO, and why walking beside your team is more effective than leading from the front. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason sets the stage for a conversation on co-creating cultures that bring out the best in people during a time of low trust. [00:03] Meet Margaret Andrews: From master's swim teams to Harvard lecture halls, Margaret introduces her "excitement meter" and the Facets of Strategy. [00:06] The Harvard Perspective: Margaret discusses her courses on Managing Yourself and Leading Others, emphasizing that there is no "single right answer" in leadership—only context. [00:09] The Engagement Crisis: A look at recent data showing 10-year lows in engagement and why only 23% of employees trust their leadership's direction. [00:11] Culture Takers vs. Culture Makers: Margaret defines why most employees are culture takers and how the CEO must act as the "Chief Culture Officer" to move the needle. [00:15] The Satya Nadella Case Study: An analysis of how Microsoft's CEO transformed a legacy culture by being an "insider on the sideline" and changing who got the "seats on the bus." [00:19] Cultural Dissonance: Why "sharp elbows" in leadership destroy collaboration and how promotion criteria serve as the loudest signal of what a company truly values. [00:23] Identifying Your Heroes: The power of stories in transmitting culture. To change your culture, you must change who your organization celebrates as a "hero." [00:27] The "Soft Skills" Crusade: Jason and Margaret discuss why interpersonal skills are actually "superpowers" and why MIT alums consistently wish they had paid more attention to Organizational Behavior. [00:31] The EQ Quadrants: A breakdown of self-awareness, self-management, social competency, and empathy in the high-stakes environment of executive leadership. [00:37] The 6 vs. 9 Perspective: A viral analogy for the workplace—how two leaders can be looking at the same problem, seeing different "numbers," and both be "right" from their vantage point. [00:41] Digital Natives & The "Why": A deep look at Gen Z and Millennials. Why these generations don't need "hovering" leaders, but rather partners to walk beside them. Key Takeaways for Leaders: The Knowing-Doing Gap: Real credit in leadership isn't given for knowing you should listen or be empathetic; it's only given for doing it consistently. Vantage Point Curiosity: Replace judgment with curiosity. When a team member disagrees, ask what "vantage point" they are standing at to see the problem differently. Hero Alignment: Audit the stories told in your halls. Do your "office legends" embody the culture you want to build, or the one you are trying to leave behind? Listen to the full episode and access show notes at: https://jasonvbarger.com/podcast/culture-making-margaret-andrews/ Bio: Jason Barger is a husband, father, speaker, and author who is passionate about business leadership and corporate culture. He believes that corporate culture is the "thermostat" of an organization, and that it can be used to drive performance, innovation, and engagement. The show features interviews with business leaders from a variety of industries, as well as solo episodes where Barger shares his own insights and advice. Connect: Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JasonVBarger Make Your 2026 Effective! Book Jason with your team at https://www.jasonvbarger.com Like or Follow Jason 👍 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbarger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonvbarger/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jasonvbarger/ X: https://x.com/JasonvBarger

    49 min
  8. 4 Habits Your Culture Needs

    FEB 17

    4 Habits Your Culture Needs

    As workplace trends continue to evolve, Jason identifies 4 foundational habits that every culture needs to be intentional about to create their future. Gemini said Jason builds on the emerging workplace trends of 2026 to identify the four foundational habits every organization needs to cultivate a high-performing culture. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In a workplace landscape defined by a 10-year low in employee engagement and the rapid integration of AI, how do leaders ensure their teams remain connected and high-performing? In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V. Barger outlines a roadmap for 2026, shifting the focus from reactive trends to proactive, human-centered habits. He explores how the "soft skills" of the past—empathy, adaptability, and trust—have become the essential hard skills for modern executives. This conversation challenges the traditional "work-life balance" myth, proposing instead a "work-life rhythm" that treats employee well-being as a core business strategy rather than a perk. Jason breaks down the mechanics of "setting the temperature" through strategic culture audits, intentional 365-day onboarding, and the participatory alignment of values. By moving values from "posters on the wall to people in the room," leaders can build an environment where culture is co-created and sustained at every level. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, HR directors, and emerging leaders, this episode offers a tactical guide to navigating the technological shifts of AI while doubling down on the human elements that drive long-term organizational health. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason sets the stage for 2026, identifying four habits your culture needs to navigate current workplace shifts. [00:03] 2026 Workplace Trends: A recap of the five key trends impacting the workforce, including values alignment and the engagement crisis. [00:05] The New Core Competencies: Why empathy, communication, and trust-building are now the most critical "hard skills" for leaders. [00:06] From Balance to Rhythm: A strategic look at well-being as a performance driver and the reality of the hybrid work standard. [00:10] Habit 1 – The Culture Audit: Moving beyond survey fatigue to a strategic, honest assessment of your organization's "temperature". [00:12] Habit 2 – 365-Day Onboarding: Why the best organizations view onboarding as a year-long cultural roadmap rather than a first-week event. [00:14] Habit 3 – Participatory Values: Strategies to move values from static slogans to actionable behaviors that drive decision-making. [00:15] Habit 4 – Continuous Leadership Development: Why senior leaders must avoid becoming "finished products" and remain committed to their own growth. [00:17] Closing Questions: Jason leaves leaders with reflective prompts to strengthen their personal and organizational habits. Key Takeaways for Leaders: Audit for Action: Conduct a culture audit every 2–3 years, but only if you are committed to communicating themes and acting on the feedback to avoid survey fatigue. The 365-Day Rule: Treat onboarding as a long-term strategic immersion into your culture, not just a logistical checklist. Human-AI Balance: Lean on AI for efficiency, but double down on human judgment and emotional intelligence to lead effectively. Listen to the full episode and access show notes at: https://jasonvbarger.com/podcast/4-habits-your-culture-needs/ Bio: Jason Barger is a husband, father, speaker, and author who is passionate about business leadership and corporate culture. He believes that corporate culture is the "thermostat" of an organization and that it can be used to drive performance, innovation, and engagement. The show features interviews with business leaders from a variety of industries, as well as solo episodes where Barger shares his own insights and advice. Connect: Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JasonVBarger Make Your 2026 Effective! Book Jason with your team at https://www.jasonvbarger.com Like or Follow Jason 👍 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbarger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonvbarger/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jasonvbarger/ X: https://x.com/JasonvBarger

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A thermostat is proactive. It sets the temperature in a room. Controls the temperature. Regulates the temperature. But in today's distracted, fast-paced and digital world, it's easy for individuals and organizations to act more like thermometers, slipping into reactionary thinking, becoming scattered and inconsistent. The most compelling leaders, teams, organizations, families or collection of humans of any kind operate in thermostat mode. They calibrate their mind and heart to set the temperature for the vision and culture they want to create. Jason Barger, globally celebrated author, keynote speaker and founder of Step Back Leadership Consulting, guides this journey to discover authentic leadership, create compelling cultures and find clarity of mission, vision and values. Learn more at JasonVBarger.com or on social media @jasonvbarger

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