Reality Hub

Rob & Steve

Join Rob and Steve with guests and friends on this fun and sometimes irreverent show exploring the nature of reality and what we take for granted - in the world around us and within us. You'll get genuine reflections, stories and insights into the daily reality we co-create with humanity from your hosts Rob and Steve, a couple of Kiwi blokes talking from the heart. We touch on holistic health, fitness, mental and emotional wellbeing, inner guidance vs. outer programming, spiritual woo and the daily grind of living in "The Real World". It's all there in this open minded, non-political, non-religious, BPA and BS-free podcast! Reality Hub. See you inside and see you at our website realityhub.love (because LOVE matters most).

  1. Battlefield to Bodywork: Confessions of a Neuromuscular Therapist - Leon Botello

    08/13/2025

    Battlefield to Bodywork: Confessions of a Neuromuscular Therapist - Leon Botello

    In this deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation, we welcome one of New Zealand's foremost neuromuscular therapists, Leon, whose decades of hands-on healing work have changed lives and surprised even seasoned medical professionals. Born in the US and shaped by a diverse and challenging upbringing, Leon's journey spans growing up in a multicultural but segregated environment, serving as a medic in the US Army, studying advanced bodywork techniques, and teaching across New Zealand. From confronting racism and bullying to unlocking trauma stored in the body's fascia, Leon shares extraordinary real-life stories—from veterans reliving battlefield moments to mothers releasing long-held post-cesarean pain. We also explore his philosophy on self-healing, mindset, and the innate intelligence of the human body. This is part biography, part masterclass in holistic therapy, and part celebration of a life lived on purpose. Topics Covered Early Life in the US Multicultural upbringing without initial racial divisions Impact of enforced integration and the emergence of racism Growing up Native American–Mexican in a society that encouraged cultural camouflage Early lessons in self-defence and protecting others from bullies Military Service Joining the US Army during the Cold War and serving as a medic Specialized skills: medical trauma care, weapons maintenance, vehicle operation Life in Germany during the fall of the Berlin Wall Lessons from basic training and camaraderie among soldiers Path to Neuromuscular Therapy Personal injury led to the discovery of massage therapy Training in advanced modalities, including trigger point therapy and myofascial release Influence of Dr. Janet Travell & Dr. David Simons' work on referred pain patterns Healing Stories & Case Studies Veteran reliving battlefield trauma during fascia release Post-cesarean patients completing "unfinished" birth processes Restoring fertility through fascial unwinding Emotional releases linked to stored trauma in abdominal tissue Supporting athletes to improve performance through iliopsoas work Mindset, Healing, and Self-Responsibility The role of belief systems in recovery How cultural programming and language shape health outcomes Importance of diet, hydration, movement, and supportive relationships Advice for questioning authority and seeking multiple opinions Life Beyond the Clinic Teaching and travelling extensively in New Zealand Work with high-profile clients, from professional athletes to celebrities Experiences in Hawaii, Houston, and luxury wellness settings Philosophy of living naturally and embracing opportunities Want to connect with Leon for bodywork sessions or teaching inquiries? You can reach him at scubaman@hotmail.com or on his New Zealand mobile +64 21 080 84448. Connect with Rob and Steve: Our instagram handle is @realityhub.love YouTube is http://www.youtube.com/@realityhub-love TikTok is @real8yhub, and naturally enough, our website is www.realityhub.love

    1h 55m
  2. 79 Healing Trauma in Bones and Spirit with Sue Austen

    06/05/2025

    79 Healing Trauma in Bones and Spirit with Sue Austen

    In this profound and illuminating episode, Stephen and Rob sit down with intuitive healer and horse whisperer Sue Austen, founder of Bulls Wool Farm Park and practitioner of Contact CARE. What begins with a story of healing injured horses unfolds into a deep exploration of the body's energetic memory, intergenerational trauma, intuitive therapy, and the fine line between ancient wisdom and modern woo. Sue shares how she transitioned from working with physically broken horses to becoming a deeply attuned therapist for people suffering from physical and emotional pain—especially those carrying the hidden weight of abuse, trauma, and generational wounding. With a balance of earthy practicality and cosmic insight, Sue reveals how "flinch locks"—surprise impacts stored in the bones—can be gently released, unlocking profound healing. The conversation also explores predator/prey dynamics, energetic imprints, the power of intuitive sensing, and the deeper spiritual purpose behind Sue's work. Topics Covered: What is Contact CARE and what is a flinch lock? Healing abused animals and their emotional imprints Intuitive sensing of pain and trauma in others Intergenerational trauma in both horses and humans Energetic memory stored in fascia and bone The spiritual and ancestral roots of Sue's abilities How Sue perceives clients' injuries—sometimes before they arrive How to work with, not against, your body's position of comfort Understanding the apex predator sense in humans The importance of boundaries, openness, and emotional strength Sue's work with vulnerable women and how healing happens The connection between nature, pantheism, and intuitive healing Guardian rocks, therapy animals, and energy-cleansing rituals Quote of the Episode: "I feel like I have a remnant of what hunter-gatherers used to do—like I'm being guided to the stuck, wounded ones... whether it's a sheep in the blackberry bush or a soul in distress." – Sue Austen Connect with Sue: Bulls Wool Farm Park: [Google "Bulls Wool Farm"]  Contact CARE Practice: www.flinchlockrelease.co.nz Connect with Rob and Steve: Our instagram handle is @realityhub.love TikTok is @real8yhub, and naturally enough, our website is www.realityhub.love

    1h 2m
  3. 04/26/2025

    78 RealityBites #19 Being Open To Life

    Welcome back to RealityBites—a space where we explore what it means to be fully human! Today's episode is an invitation.
An invitation to open…
To life. To truth. To yourself.
To all of it. To healing. To maybe meeting yourself for the first time, in a while.  You see, life isn't just the moments that make us smile, or the wins we post about.
Life is everything. 
It's the quiet ache of grief, the sting of rejection, the trembling edge of vulnerability. 
It's also the laughter that bubbles up from nowhere, the connection that surprises you,
and the peace that comes when you stop running from yourself. Somewhere along the way, many of us learned that to be safe, we must close.
Close our hearts. Our emotions. Our truth. We decided that hiding was safer than being seen. 
We build walls, wear masks, and call it strength.
But in doing so, we also close ourselves off from joy… from intimacy… from the fullness of what it means to live. Being open to life means saying yes to all of it.
It means letting emotions move through you like waves—without labeling them good or bad. 
It means standing in the fire of your fear or your grief, and saying:
"I will not hide anymore. I am here." This is not about being fearless.
It's about being courageous enough to be seen.
Because deep down, all of us want the same thing—to be seen, to be felt, to be known, to be loved for who we really are. So, in this episode, we'll explore what it really means to live with an open heart. 
Why we close off, and how we can begin to trust life again.
Because when you open…
You don't just let life in.
You also let yourself out. Key Topics and Talking Points: The IIlusion of Protection Through Control Why We Close Off Being Open Means Feeling Everything The Role of Vulnerability Living With an Open Heart The Gifts of Openness Spiritual Dimensions   So… what does it mean to live a life fully open?
It means choosing presence over protection.
It means allowing yourself to feel deeply, even when it's messy.
It means recognizing that life isn't happening to you—it's happening for you… even when it hurts. When we open ourselves to life, we stop resisting the flow.
We stop numbing and running.
And instead, we begin to meet each moment as it is—raw, real, and alive. Yes, openness brings risk.
It brings the risk of being hurt, misunderstood, or let down.
But it also brings the possibility of love, connection, growth, and transformation.
It brings the gift of being seen—not as some perfected version of yourself, but as the real you. And that is the space where true healing begins.
Not when you close off and shrink to stay safe…
But when you expand—despite the fear—and say,
"I am willing. I am open. I am here." Because life isn't asking for your perfection.
It's asking for your participation. So as you move forward from here, ask yourself:
Where can I open a little more?
What emotion, truth, or part of myself have I been hiding from?
And what might change if I welcomed it all in? Thanks for tuning in to RealityHub.
Until next time—stay curious, stay open, and keep remembering who you really are. Hey Reality Hub fans! Please support the podcast by following RealityHub on Instagram, Facebook and on Youtube for future videos and visit our website: http://www.realityhub.love/ where you can also listen to the podcast online and read Rob's blog!

    21 min
  4. 12/12/2024

    77 RealityBites #18 The Universe Only Says Yes!

    Hello Friends! Thank you so much for joining me for another episode! Below is a brief summary of the talking points relevant to this episode. Enjoy!   What is your I Am?  - Neale Donald Walsch As a universal response to every thought is yes God only knows one word and that is yes Yes to what? Yes to whatever you think, say or do… The good side of this the positive side is universe never says no… The bad side of this is for those that don't know how the system works is..universe only says yes So if you say, I am sick and tired of my life going like this… the universe says …yes that's true I want more money…universe says yes, indeed that's true And you will have the experience of wanting money, because you are declaring in fact what's true for you The principle of correspondence "As above, so below; as below, so above." —The Kybalion or "As within, so without" Going a bit deeper into the art manifesting - what we hold energetically within us is what we will attune to, resonate with in the so called outside world - by correspondence  In the other words the very thoughts you emit will correspond to the reality you create - as creator beings we have the capability to intentionally create by the process of thoughts, intention and aligned action I've always been fascinated by how we create our reality and therefore how we create or day to day lives, our habitual thoughts, sub-conscious programming and belief systems influence our world In other words what you embody as a frequency or vibration is that which will be reflected back to from the field the universe Simply put you create more of what you already are - It influences the field because you are the field and the knower of the field You are that with what you want to attract If you are habitually positive, joyful, optimistic then you will create and attract more of these experiences by virtue of the people , places and experiences  So it comes down to the beingness which is a distinction between wanting something through lack or fear or desperation -  Or if you are emitting a resonance or energetic field or instilling or programming the field with frustration or lack or anger or bitterness then that's what you will reflect back! Hey, Reality Hub fans! Please support the podcast by following RealityHub on Instagram, Facebook and on Youtube for future videos.

    12 min
  5. 11/13/2024

    76 RealityBites #17 True Freedom - Beyond the Conditioned Mind

    Hello friends! And welcome back to this episode of RealityBites. Please find below a list of talking points relevant to this episode as well as the 5 questions that I posed to Deepak Chopra's digital twin - digitaldeepak.ai Enjoy! The story we create for ourselves through the lens of the conditioned mind. From birth we are programmed by our parents, societal, cultural programs, the construct of our reality. Our lives are dictated by the narrative we construct in our conditioned mind. This narrative is the self- concept we carry as our reality as we go on through life, further conditioned to those early briefs we attached to. We often go on reinforcing and confirming those beliefs in order to belong in society. Unfortunately many of these self beliefs are self limiting and born from a desire to belong but are anchored in a lack of self worth. So we navigate through life looking for that external validation and approval we may not have learned in our formative years. In essence, we go through our adult lives with a self-construct that has been distorted by the consensus conditioning of society. To stray form the norm is often seen as being outsider, or alternative and so society quickly judges and criticises this in order for its own survival. So much of our conditioning is based in competitiveness, division and lack. We all carry deep within us a story moulded and shaped in order to survive in a complex world which continually tells us a story that is often not questioned. Which leads the spiritual seeker on a quest through deep self inquiry to know themselves perhaps for the first time who they really are beyond the constraints of society. Often this is seen as the hero journey, the dark night of the soul or merely the souls desire to know itself beyond the conditioned mind. This can be a process of un-condioning, un-programming a distillation and refinement process whereby we de-tach and let go of outdated beliefs and ways of thinking. This of course is a scary place for the ego identity which relies on the story it created in order to feel safe and a part of the world. This inner work requires effort and diligence to gain an awareness of the deeper layers of consciousness within us, that have been unconscious and move towards an integration of the total self. As Carl Jung said - to make conscious that which is unconscious - we realise how much of our lives are dictated by unconscious patterns and the recycling of conditiond mind beliefs. The ultimate path to freedom is to transcend the conditioned mind to our true nature of the eternal self, our soul, our divine nature. Our fundamental nature lies beyond the conditioned mind which cannot fathom or comprehend our infinite nature our timeless essence. 5 Questions with digitaldeepak.aI I would like to further explore the idea that true freedom is beyond the conditioned mind. As our perception of reality is governed primarily by the thoughts we create and beliefs we have been programmed with, to transcend the conditioned mind would grant us access to our true nature and ultimately the fundamental nature of reality. True freedom indeed transcends the conditioned mind. Our minds, shaped by language, culture, and history, limit our perception of reality. To reach beyond, we must transform our minds from their old conditioning. This process, akin to separating water from milk, allows us to access our true nature and the fundamental nature of reality. What are some practical ways one on a spiritual journey can transcend the conditioned mind, and transform ourselves from our old conditioning? Practical ways to transcend the conditioned mind include setting personal goals to explore alternatives to conditioned thinking. Embrace meditation to loosen habits and conditioning, and welcome change instead of resisting it. See experiences as self-reflections and take regular 'in time' and 'down time'. The essence of transformation is allowing the light to do the work, aiming for revelations and insights. Do you see the influence of social media as further conditioning our minds as a distraction from knowing our true nature? Yes, social media can condition our minds, often distracting us from our true nature. It reflects our level of awareness and can both benefit and harm us. However, it's crucial to remember that we have the opportunity to free ourselves by undoing our own conditioning. What would you consider to be the greatest challenge facing humanity to transcend our current level of collective conditioning that the majority of people are influenced by especially through all media channels? The greatest challenge is our underdeveloped collective consciousness. It's reflected in unsustainable practices and problems like environmental degradation. These issues stem from policies and practices rooted in greed and unconscious behavior. Transcending this requires an evolution of human consciousness, moving away from pseudo-Gods and towards unity among an awakened humanity. Finally, what would you consider to be the biggest trauma humanity on a collective level is facing and needs to heal, transcend and integrate to create a more awakened and unified planet? The biggest trauma humanity faces is a lack of compassion and a devaluation of our interdependence with nature. To heal, we must awaken our collective consciousness and apply that wisdom towards practical solutions. This is a collective consciousness problem and requires an awakening of collective consciousness to solve it.

    15 min
  6. 05/01/2024

    75 RealityBites #16 The 7 Hermetic Principles of Reality Series #7 "The Principle of Gender"

    Here we are at the final episode of this series! Just acknowledge it has been a while!  Welcome to the seventh and final episode of a 7 part RealityBites Series featuring and exploring the 7 Hermetic Principles as told in The Kybalion -  In The Kybalion, a book first published in 1908 by the "Three Initiates" the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus are conveyed in the study of hermetic philosophy. These teachings can be dated back 5000 years and is a branch of spiritual philosophy has influenced both Ancient Greek and Egyptian cultures! To recap we have introduced the Hermetic wisdom in our first episode in the series- and we've explored the principle of mentalism, correspondence, vibration and polarity , rhythm and cause and effect and I encourage you to check out the previous episodes to know more about these principles. Hope you have all enjoyed this journey and exploration!  What are the 7 Principles? Seven Hermetic principles The principle of mentalism. The principle of correspondence. The principle of vibration. The principle of polarity. The principle of rhythm. The principle of cause and effect. The principle of gender. 7. The Principle of Gender: Gender is in everything; Everything has its masculine and feminine principles; Gender manifests on all planes. The seventh principle states that all things have masculine and feminine qualities. Yes, the two sexes can be thought of as a physical manifestation of this principle, but as we're all coming to understand, on an internal level, all of us hold both energies. (Think the left and right brain) The word "Gender" is derived from the Latin root meaning "to beget" to procreate , to generate, to produce. Feminine, magnetic, calls things in, allowing, attraction, bringing things in. The feminine is the receptive, sacred, treasured, protective energy, that maintains tradition and honors the priority of what is most important, while nourishing that which is most essential to life.  Masculine, directive, creative, outward production, making things happen, taking action. The masculine is the penetrative, assertive, progressive, conquesting, explorative energy that drives progress.  All beings contain this great Principle within them, as two parts. Every male has feminine energy, and every female has masculine energy.  There is a great analogy in Native American tradition, where the wings of a bird symbolise the two energies of masculine and feminine so each wing is important for balance and harmony and together give rise to creation and motion. The two energies are foundational for creation… the masculine of thought and action, feminine and magnetism coming from the emotional body… Allowing - feminine Creation - masculine Its a dance….creation… Creation is a Spirit led dance… To get back into your centre Dance, movement is connection to divine, source, goddess energy Yin and yang energy Left and right brain The left brain is connected to the right eye, the right brain connected to the left eye.. We've seen the patriarchal energy dominate and as we move into the aquarian age we are seeing a rebalance to be addressed towards the feminine energy. Mental Gender ( the dual mind ) There is this dual aspect in the mind of every person; The "I" represents the masculine principle of mental gender, the "Me" represents the female principle.The "I" represents the aspect of Being; the "Me" the aspect of becoming. Really hoped you've all enjoyed these short introductions to the 7 Hermetic Principles! Hey Reality Hub fans! Please support the podcast by following RealityHub on Instagram, Facebook and on Youtube for future videos and visit our website: http://www.realityhub.love/ where you can also listen to the podcast online and read Rob's blog!

    13 min
  7. 01/23/2024

    74 RealityBites #15 The 7 Hermetic Principles of Reality Series #6 "The Principle of Cause and Effect"

    Welcome to the sixth episode of a 7 part RealityBites Series featuring and exploring the 7 Hermetic Principles as told in The Kybalion -  In The Kybalion, a book first published in 1908 by the "Three Initiates" the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus are conveyed in the study of hermetic philosophy. A 7 part RealityBites Series featuring and exploring the 7 Hermetic Principles as told in The Kybalion. My hope and intention with these series of podcasts is that you can become aware and familiar of how these principles show up in your own reality - and how you can best utilise, take advantage or co-create your experience in accordance with these universal laws.  The idea is to start noticing how these principles or laws if you like govern the universe, and therefore influence our reality -  To recap we have introduced the Hermetic wisdom in our first episode in the series- and we've explored the principle of mentalism, correspondence, vibration and polarity. I encourage you to check out the previous episodes to know more about these principles On the last episode we talked about the principle of Rhythm -Everything flows, out and in; Everything has its tides; All things rise and fall; The pendulum swing manifests in everything; The measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; Rhythm compensates. 6. The Principle of Cause & Effect: Every cause has its effect; Every effect has its cause; Everything happens according to law' Chance is but a name for law not recognized' There are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the law. This principle embodies the fact that there is a 'Cause for every Effect;' and an 'Effect for every Cause.' Meaning, that nothing merely 'happens for no reason' and that there is no such thing as 'chance.' The old saying everything happens for a reason or things are happening for you. This also implies you have some control over your life, that you can cause or initiate the effect. This also relates to karma and the law of action. Karma as a past experience, good or bad. (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences. "a buddha is believed to have completely purified his karma" Every action has some form of consequence. "The Hermetists understand to a certain degree to rise above cause and effect, they become causers instead of effects". This means we can with awareness, shift how we react to certain situations, and come from the perspective that things happen for us, by us - that  karma can reside on a higher realm or dimension, as the hermeticists believe. In our own lives we can transcend our karma by becoming aware of our own internal triggers or cause to situations that keep re-appearing in our lives to be addressed Old wounds or patterns or behaviours, relationship dynamics etc  It comes to to whether our lives are fated and to what degree we can exert our free will to alter the effect, by addressing the cause - by changing the way you look, or act to a certain cause we can therefore change the effect our outcome. In some wisdom traditions and teachings, this reality is seen as a soul cauldron where souls come for purification and rectification- a school of life, to transcend life challenges - and come back to "holiness" Or Moksha - 1. (in Hinduism and Jainism) release from the cycle of rebirth impelled by the law of karma. the transcendent state attained as a result of being released from the cycle of rebirth. Also freedom from samsara - The Sanskrit term samsara translates as "wandering through," or "aimless wandering." Samsara is the concept of reincarnation, a cyclic existence where our spirit or individual soul is trapped in an endless wheel of life, death and rebirth. 7. The Principle of Gender: Gender is in everything; Everything has its masculine and feminine principles; Gender manifests on all planes. Hey Reality Hub fans! Please support the podcast by following RealityHub on Instagram, Facebook and on Youtube for future videos and visit our website: http://www.realityhub.love/ where you can also listen to the podcast online and read Rob's blog!

    15 min
  8. 12/12/2023

    73 RealityBites #14 The 7 Hermetic Principles of Reality Series #5 "The Principle of Rhythm"

    Welcome to the fifth episode of a 7 part RealityBites Series featuring and exploring the 7 Hermetic Principles as told in The Kybalion -  In The Kybalion, a book first published in 1908 by the "Three Initiates" the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus are conveyed in the study of hermetic philosophy. In Hermetic thought, the movements of the planets are believed to have meaning beyond the laws of physics and actually hold metaphorical value as symbols in the mind of the All, or God, which have influence upon the Earth, but do not dictate our actions; wisdom is gained when we know what these influences are and how ... My hope and intention with these series of podcasts is that you can become aware and familiar of how these principles show up in your own reality - and how you can best utilise, take advantage or co-create your experience in accordance with these universal laws.  The idea is to start noticing how these principles or laws if you like govern the universe, and therefore influence our reality -  To recap we have introduced the Hermetic wisdom in our first episode in the series- and we've explored the principle of mentalism, correspondence, vibration and polarity. I encourage you to check out the previous episodes to know more about these principles. Which leads us to the 5th principle- 5. The Principle of Rhythm: Everything flows, out and in; Everything has its tides; All things rise and fall; The pendulum swing manifests in everything; The measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; Rhythm compensates. The fifth principle states that between the opposing poles, there exists an inherent rhythm. The tides move in and out. We inhale and exhale. Everything is in motion. Nature has its seasons and so, too, do we. This principle embodies the truth that everything exists in a measured motion, from here to there, moving in and out, swinging backward and forward, the rise and fall of the tides, ebbing and flowing and never truly sitting still. Never stopping, always changing. This is also relevant in the ability to come back to balance or homeostasis, to come back to a neutral point. "The mental law of neutralisation" This encompasses the dualistic nature of everything. As with all the principles, we can learn to utilise them to interpret and create our reality - the principle of rhythm can have an over arching theme esp in this time and stage of humanity ad we see more and more people awakening and aligning to their greater selves. One could look at the cycles of evolution that we as humanity are and have been going through - the bigger picture -  It isn't hard to recognise that even though we live on a planet that surrounds us with beauty, that there is a lot of darkness happening within humanity. The ancient Sanskrit teachings understood that civilization goes through distinct cycles of creation and destruction. Native traditions have similar stories to describe different ages of humanity as well. It can be easy to lose hope sometimes, but there many possibilities for spiritual growth and awakening during this time. Let's look at the bigger picture knowing that the warm glow of dawn always follows the coldest, darkest moments of the night. What is a Yuga? The ancients understood time as a circle, not linear, and the circle of ages are known as the yugas. Like the four seasons in our year, there are four yugas in the full cycle (Mahayuga). Each cycle has distinct themes and spiritual lessons for humanity. Below are the four yugas in order from beginning to end. It is important to note that the first yuga is the longest with each one getting successively shorter (4:3:2:1) until the cycle starts again. The ancient Greeks called these four ages of human civilization the Age of Gold, Silver, Bronze, and the Age of Iron. The Phoenix always rises from the ashes of its predecessor.  If we are actually living in the Kali Yuga now, then any and all behaviour that is wholesome, honest, generous, virtuous, happy, authentic, is emulating behaviors that bring us closer to the Satya Yuga. Satya Yuga is the next phase in the cycle, a golden age of abundance. Knowing that the Kali Yuga can end abruptly at any moment, observe what is happening around you, grow your compassion, and learn what you can from this precious time! This is one of many stories that illustrate what each of us observe when we pay close attention to nature.  Life goes in natural cycles of gestation, birth, growth, decay, death, and rebirth. We see it in the plants, the seasons, in the rise and fall of nations, as well as in our own personal lives. When something is pure, it can be maintained as pure but cannot become more pure, it can only become less pure. In that same regard, when things are polluted or corrupted, they can be returned to purity. The Kali Yuga is as good a time for spiritual discipline and evolution as any. So as we can see, just like our own life, the planet, the cosmos, the universe goes through it's own rhythms  Hey Reality Hub fans! Please support the podcast by following RealityHub on Instagram, Facebook and on Youtube for future videos and visit our website: http://www.realityhub.love/ where you can also listen to the podcast online and read Rob's blog!

    14 min

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Join Rob and Steve with guests and friends on this fun and sometimes irreverent show exploring the nature of reality and what we take for granted - in the world around us and within us. You'll get genuine reflections, stories and insights into the daily reality we co-create with humanity from your hosts Rob and Steve, a couple of Kiwi blokes talking from the heart. We touch on holistic health, fitness, mental and emotional wellbeing, inner guidance vs. outer programming, spiritual woo and the daily grind of living in "The Real World". It's all there in this open minded, non-political, non-religious, BPA and BS-free podcast! Reality Hub. See you inside and see you at our website realityhub.love (because LOVE matters most).