Market Dominance Guys

ConnectAndSell

Experience sales thought leadership that leaves you shaking inside with Market Dominance Guys, the definitive podcast for B2B sales excellence. Industry veterans Chris Beall (ConnectAndSell founder/CEO) and Corey Frank (Branch49 CEO) deliver unfiltered insights from decades of sales leadership and market domination experience. Unlock the secrets behind successful cold calling campaigns, and pipeline generation strategies used by top-performing sales organizations. Learn from real practitioners who’ve generated millions in revenue through authentic conversations, trust-based relationships, and systematic market penetration.

  1. 11/05/2025

    EP259: Chris Squared - When AI Masters Your Sales Methods

    Welcome to another Market Dominance Guys episode, and today we're trying something completely different. What happens when you spend four hours in a studio recording sales training content, and then someone creates an AI version of you? Well, you're about to find out. Our Chris Beall recently worked with Alex Kutsishin from myfuel.io to create AI-powered training experiences. The result? An AI Chris that sounds remarkably like the real thing – maybe a younger version – and knows everything Chris teaches about cold calling, market dominance, and the psychology of trust. In this experimental episode, the real Chris interviews his AI counterpart, diving into First to Converse principles, list-building strategies, and how to master the emotional journey of cold calling. It's enlightening, it's creative, and yes, it's a little weird hearing Chris talk to himself. But it showcases an efficient new way for sales teams and enterprises to access expert training 24/7. Let's listen in as human meets algorithm in the pursuit of sales excellence. Alex Kutsishin, Chief Executive Officer Alex Kutsishin is co-founder and CEO of FUEL !nc, the world's first Performance-as-a-Service platform for sales teams and leadership designed to redefine business education and performance standards. With an entrepreneurial spirit evident since his youth, he has co-founded ten companies — from pioneering medical offices in Washington, D.C. to introducing the first American-based low-code, no-code platform for custom mobile websites. Kutsishin has won numerous awards, including EY Entrepreneur of the Year.

    19 min
  2. 08/13/2025

    EP257: The Laser Pointer Problem: Why Your Reps are Chasing AI Like Distracted Cats

    Chris and Corey are joined by Blackpearl Group’s CTO, Sam Daish. In this episode, he's dousing us with the reality of why most sales AI tools are basically expensive cat toys. Blackpearl has built Bebop.AI, a tool that makes sense as an addition to a sales pro’s tech stack. It could probably replace several nonsensical shiny AI  tools they are currently batting around instead of making calls. Corey's firing questions about AI fatigue (because let's face it, we all have it), while Chris goes full mathematician on us with this brutal insight: sales reps are like cats chasing laser pointers with AI. Lots of movement, lots of fascination, but nobody's actually catching anything. You may wonder how this fits in with BeBop.ai. It will make more sense after you hear the origin story - they almost called it "Hot Pipe" until someone pointed out the, uh, alternative interpretations. Instead, they went with a full bebop jazz vibe in the function and tone because they wanted sales to feel like improvisation, not a pile of dated rigid playbooks. As the real kicker, Chris breaks down why most AI implementations fail: false negatives. You're not just calling the wrong people - you're missing the right ones entirely. And Sam's nodding along because BebopAI tackles this by making the entire Internet your database instead of some limited proprietary dataset. The feature that gets reps most excited? Not the fancy prospect data. It's the objection handling. Turns out confidence beats information every time. Join us for this episode, “The Laser Pointer Problem: Why your reps are chasing AI like distracted cats .” Action Items Suggested in This Episode: For Sales Leaders/CROs Audit your AI strategy focus - Are you trying to bring bottom performers up, or amplify your top performers? Chris argues the latter delivers exponentially better ROI Identify your "Jonti McLarens" - Find your top performers and give them 10% more time/better tools (equivalent to adding 10 middle-tier reps) Evaluate your current AI tools - Are they creating "laser pointer cat" behavior or getting reps to more conversations? For Sales Reps Test BeBop.ai's's dossier approach, with a special focus on the objection handling feature that receives the most positive feedback. Use AI for discovery prep, not avoidance - Read dossiers in the minutes before scheduled meetings when memory retention is highest. Ask "why" to AI responses - Sam emphasizes this helps uncover hallucinations and improves reasoning. For Sales Operations/Enablement Shift from proprietary databases to "Internet as database" tools - Evaluate platforms that can digest broader data sources Implement AI that works as "companion, not a replacement" - Focus on tools that enhance human expertise rather than substitute for it Measure false negatives, not just false positives - Track opportunities missed, not just wrong prospects contacted For Product/Marketing Teams Load your website into BebopAI - Sam says this simple step works really well for basic company understanding Document your go-to-market messaging - Feed it into AI tools for consistent, company-specific responses. Create objection handling libraries - The most requested feature, according to Sam's feedback. For Executives/Investors Recognize top salespeople as an innovation economy constraint - Chris's thesis: Elite sales performance limits how fast innovation spreads Budget for commission accelerators - Top performers using AI tools may exceed traditional quota expectations Rethink headcount-based scaling - Focus on amplifying existing top talent vs. adding middle-tier reps Immediate Next Steps Try the "Internet as database" approach - Ask AI tools open-ended questions like "find me customers for [your company]"

    1h 11m
  3. 07/22/2025

    EP256: Rote vs. Rogue: The Fine Line Between Sales Mastery and Sales Mediocrity

    What happens when you combine decades of sales wisdom with cutting-edge AI coaching? You get a fascinating conversation about the future of sales performance. In this episode, Chris and Corey sit down with Jared Zelman, Founder of Othello (formerly Cicero), who's built an AI virtual assistant that coaches sales reps through every part of their deals in real-time. From whispered suggestions during discovery calls to automated follow-ups, Othello is turning B-players into A-players and saving top performers 7+ hours per week. Discover why Sandler methodology emerged as the AI's preferred approach, learn the difference between going "rote" versus "rogue" in sales situations, and find out how simple desktop notifications are creating 15% win rate improvements across Fortune 500 companies. Whether you're struggling with team performance consistency or looking to scale coaching across your organization, this episode reveals how AI is finally solving the age-old challenge of converting average performers into top producers. Join us for this episode, "Rote vs. Rogue: The Fine Line Between Sales Mastery and Sales Mediocrity." https://www.othello.ai/  READING LIST FROM THIS EPISODE: "Flip the Script" by Oren Klaff "Pitch Anything" by Oren Klaff "The Must React System: User's Guide to Prospecting C-Suite Executives" by Craig Kleeman "Love Your Team: Survival Guide for Sales Managers in a Hybrid World" by Helen Fanucci "Never Split the Difference" by Chris Voss "SPIN Selling" by Neil Rackham

    1h 3m
4.9
out of 5
27 Ratings

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Experience sales thought leadership that leaves you shaking inside with Market Dominance Guys, the definitive podcast for B2B sales excellence. Industry veterans Chris Beall (ConnectAndSell founder/CEO) and Corey Frank (Branch49 CEO) deliver unfiltered insights from decades of sales leadership and market domination experience. Unlock the secrets behind successful cold calling campaigns, and pipeline generation strategies used by top-performing sales organizations. Learn from real practitioners who’ve generated millions in revenue through authentic conversations, trust-based relationships, and systematic market penetration.