The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast With Scott Landis

Scott Landis

Welcome to The TriMetric Roadmap—the podcast for business owners who want more than just survival. Hosted by Scott Landis, creator of the TriMetric Tracking System™ and author of Balancing Act, this show explores how to scale a business without sacrificing your health, your marriage, or your sanity.Each episode dives into the 21 Critical Factors that drive Business Health, Executive Performance, and Life Quality—through the lens of the TriMetric system and the Four Pillars of Fulfillment™ (Vitality, Relationships, Freedom, and Impact). Whether you're navigating burnout, bottlenecks, or big decisions, you'll find the mindset, strategy, and tools to help you build a business that fuels your life—not one that consumes it. This podcast was formerly known as The Awakened Life and Husband On Fire.

  1. 3d ago

    Are You Building a Fun Life?

    Show Notes: Are You Building a Fun Life? Founder freedom is not just about getting more time and money. It is about building a life you can actually enjoy. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Life Quality series with the fifth Life Quality factor: Fun & Recreation. This episode asks a simple but important question: Is the business actually supporting the life you set out to build? Scott and Jeff talk about how many founders become so serious, responsible, and consumed by the business that they almost forget how to enjoy life. Fun can start to feel irresponsible. Recreation can feel unproductive. Rest can feel like something that has to be earned after everything else is done. But if the business is producing revenue, opportunity, and responsibility, yet there is no room for joy, play, rest, hobbies, adventure, laughter, or recreation, then something is still out of alignment. Jeff explains that he refuses to not enjoy his life. That shows up in how he hires, who he works with, the boundaries he sets, and how he thinks about work, family, and purpose. He challenges founders not to wait until retirement to enjoy the life they are building. Scott shares that Fun & Recreation is one of the Life Quality areas he has had to be more intentional about. He explains that some people naturally gravitate toward joy, play, and adventure, while others are wired to carry responsibility, solve problems, and keep moving to the next thing. For those founders, receiving joy can take practice. Scott and Jeff also discuss why fun is not the opposite of discipline. Recreation helps re-create capacity. Healthy enjoyment can restore creativity, energy, relationships, and perspective. It can help the founder show up as a fuller, healthier version of themselves. They also connect this factor to founder freedom. If a founder cannot take a weekend off, play with their kids, go on a trip, enjoy a hobby, or laugh without guilt, then the business may still own too much of their life. Freedom is not just having options. Freedom is being able to enjoy them. Scott also speaks to founders nearing retirement or succession. After 20 or 30 years of building a business, identity can become deeply tied to the company. That makes Life Quality especially important. The goal is not just to exit the business. The goal is to know what kind of life the business has been helping you build. The episode closes with a practical challenge: start small. Put something on the calendar that gives life back to you. A date night, a hike, a round of golf, a game with your family, a recurring daddy-daughter date, or a simple moment of celebration can begin moving the needle. Because fun is not a distraction from the life you are building. It is part of the life you are building. In this episode: Why founders can forget how to enjoy life Why Fun & Recreation is part of Life Quality How responsibility can crowd out joy Why rest and recreation are not laziness How enjoyment restores creativity, energy, and perspective Why freedom is not just having options, but enjoying them How retirement and succession planning connect to Life Quality Why founders need to schedule joy before the business consumes every open space Simple ways to start rebuilding fun and recreation into your life Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. Next episode: Love & Intimacy — why founder freedom has to include the closest relationships in your life, and why success in business should not come at the cost of emotional connection at home.

  2. 5d ago

    Founder Health Is Business Health

    Show Notes A business that creates money but destroys your health is still out of alignment. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Life Quality series with the fourth Life Quality factor: Health & Energy. This episode looks at one of the most common hidden costs of founder dependency: the founder’s body becomes the shock absorber for the business. When the business lacks systems, margin, leadership, clarity, or shared responsibility, the founder often absorbs that pressure physically and emotionally. Late nights, skipped meals, poor sleep, stress eating, constant adrenaline, screen overload, and always being “on” can all become warning signs. Scott and Jeff explain why health and energy are not separate from business performance. They are directly connected to how a founder leads, decides, delegates, communicates, and shows up for the people depending on them. Jeff shares a helpful picture of burnout using a water heater. When the tank is full and the fire is burning, it can do its job and pour out. But when the tank is empty and the fire keeps burning, the system starts to burn up. In the same way, founders need to pay attention to the difference between being filled and simply escaping pressure. The episode also explores common escape mechanisms. Food, alcohol, TV, scrolling, and other distractions are not always wrong, but they become unhealthy when they replace the things that actually restore energy. Scott and Jeff also connect Health & Energy back to previous Life Quality factors. Trusted people can help notice when something is off. Personal growth helps a founder raise the standard for how they care for their body. And founder freedom requires the physical and emotional capacity to enjoy the life being built. Scott shares part of his own health journey and how an unexpected autoimmune issue gave him more empathy for people struggling with health and energy. Jeff shares about his own burnout experience and how he had to learn what actually filled him instead of just numbing the pressure. The conversation closes with practical starting points: sleep, walking, strength training, protein, water, breathing, screen limits, stress recovery, morning routines, labs, checkups, and using AI to help track personal health data. The goal is not a total life overhaul overnight. The goal is to start simple and raise the standard. Because the business does not just need your time. It needs a healthy version of you. In this episode: Why the founder’s body often absorbs business stress How burnout builds when pressure keeps increasing but energy is not restored The difference between escaping and actually being filled Why fatigue affects decision quality and leadership How health connects to Business Health and Executive Performance Why taking care of yourself is stewardship, not selfishness How trusted people can help you notice warning signs Simple ways to start improving health and energy Why founder freedom must include the energy to enjoy the life you are building Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. Next episode: Fun & Recreation — why joy, play, rest, and enjoyment are not just extras after the work is done, but part of building a life that is actually worth working for.

  3. Sep 21

    Who’s Helping You Carry the Weight?

    Show Notes Founder freedom is not built alone. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Life Quality series with the third Life Quality factor: Trusted People. A lot of founders are surrounded by people. They have employees, vendors, clients, family, professional contacts, and people who need things from them. But that does not always mean they have trusted people close enough to help carry the real weight. Scott and Jeff unpack why founders can be surrounded and still feel isolated at the top. As the business grows, the pressure often becomes more concentrated on the founder. Every decision, every number, every hire, every employee issue, and every major outcome can still live in the founder’s head. That is not freedom. That is founder dependency. Jeff explains that one of the ways to test trusted leadership is by watching how people respond when the founder brings a new idea. Do they immediately say, “We can’t do that because…” or do they help think through what would need to be solved? Trusted people do not just agree with the founder. They help bring clarity, challenge blind spots, speak truth, and help move the business forward. Scott connects this to one of BFA’s core beliefs: truth creates freedom. Trusted people are the ones who love you enough to tell you what you need to hear, even when it is uncomfortable. Jeff uses the picture of a backpack full of rocks. If someone is carrying a heavy backpack and complaining about back pain, a trusted person points out the backpack. But the best trusted people do more than identify the weight. They help carry it. That is the difference between advice and shared responsibility. Scott and Jeff also discuss the importance of understanding motivation. The best partnerships often happen when both sides clearly understand why the other person wants the same backpack to get up the hill. Shared interest creates shared momentum. They also touch on practical ways to build trusted people inside and outside the business. Inside the business, founders need leaders who can own outcomes, not just complete tasks. Outside the business, peer advisory groups, trusted advisors, and noncompetitive founder communities can help break isolation. The episode closes with a clear reminder: If everything important still depends on the founder, the business may be growing, but the founder is still the operating system. Trusted people help convert isolation into clarity, pressure into shared responsibility, and founder dependency into real freedom. In this episode: Why founder freedom is not built alone How founders can be surrounded and still isolated Why trusted people tell the truth, not just what you want to hear The difference between advice and shared responsibility Why motivation matters in strategic relationships How trusted people reduce founder dependency Why peer advisory groups can help founders carry the weight How internal leaders can move from task completion to outcome ownership Why the founder must be healthy enough to receive truth Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. Next episode: Health & Energy — why your body cannot be the thing you sacrifice to keep the business moving, and why founder freedom has to include the physical energy to actually enjoy the life you are building.

  4. Sep 11

    Your Business Will Not Outgrow Your Standards

    Show Notes: “Your Business Will Not Outgrow Your Standards” You cannot control everything around you, but you are not powerless. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Life Quality series with the second Life Quality factor: Personal Growth. This episode takes Personal Growth in a practical direction. It is not just about reading books, listening to podcasts, or learning more information. It is about self-awareness, identity, character, discipline, and becoming the kind of person and leader your desired future requires. Scott introduces the idea of locus of control: what you can and cannot control. As a founder, you cannot always control the economy, the market, interest rates, customer behavior, team decisions, timing, or outside circumstances. But you can control your standards. You can control your behavior, routines, discipline, preparation, attitude, follow-through, and willingness to face the truth. Jeff explains that this kind of growth starts with honest questions. It is one thing to look at truth in the numbers, financials, or sales metrics. It is another thing to look honestly at yourself and ask where you need to step up. Scott and Jeff discuss why morning routines are often a practical starting point. When life or business feels chaotic, a founder may not be able to control everything, but they can usually control the first decision of the day. Small disciplines, practiced consistently, begin to compound. They also discuss how a founder’s level of leadership affects the team. A leader’s standards influence who they attract, how much trust they build, and what the organization learns to tolerate. Over time, the founder’s standards become the business’s standards. Scott also unpacks the difference between a predictable future and a desired future. If nothing changes, the future is usually easy to predict. The same patterns, habits, standards, and decisions will likely produce the same result. But if a founder wants a different future, it requires a different level of responsibility, discipline, and action today. The episode closes with a direct challenge: If you want a stronger future, it will require a stronger version of you. In this episode: Why Personal Growth is about more than learning information What locus of control means for founders Why you cannot control the market but can control your standards How morning routines create practical wins Why leadership standards shape team standards How books, people, and learning environments help you grow The difference between a predictable future and a desired future Why truth and humility are essential to real growth How personal discipline creates trust and momentum Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. Next episode: Trusted People — why founder freedom is not something you build alone, and why the people around you may be one of the strongest indicators of where your life and business are headed.

  5. Sep 2

    Is Your Role in the Business Still Working for You?

    Show Notes: Is Your Role in the Business Still Working for You? A founder can build a successful business and still end up spending most of the week doing work that drains them. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Life Quality series inside the TriMetric system with the first Life Quality factor: Career & Work. This factor looks at whether the founder’s role, responsibilities, strengths, values, and desired contribution are still aligned, sustainable, and meaningful. Scott and Jeff explain why many founders drift out of alignment as the business grows. In the beginning, the founder does almost everything because the business needs it. But what was necessary early on can become a trap later. Jeff points out that every business requires some work that simply has to be done. But the deeper question is whether the business is still aligned with the founder’s personal why, not just the company’s why. That matters because many founders prioritize the business mission while ignoring whether their own role in the business still fits their gifts, energy, and season of life. Scott introduces the idea that energy is a diagnostic. Some work drains the founder. Some work creates clarity, creativity, and momentum. Career & Work is not just about job satisfaction. It is about whether the founder is spending enough time doing the work that produces their highest contribution. The episode also explores the founder’s “necessary contribution.” What does the founder uniquely bring to the business? And what tasks, decisions, meetings, or problems are pulling them away from that contribution? Jeff explains that many founders overvalue the wrong parts of themselves. They keep their hands in too many places, micromanage, or struggle to let go because they misunderstand what the business truly needs from them. Scott connects this to role clarity. If the founder’s role is undefined, everything defaults back to the founder. Founder freedom requires designing the business intentionally, including the founder’s seat, the team’s seats, and the responsibilities that should no longer live with the owner. They also discuss how to move work off the founder’s plate through delegation, accountability, and apprenticeship. Some work can be eliminated. Some can be delegated immediately. Other responsibilities need to be transferred through a simple process: watch me do it, help me do it, do it while I help, then do it while I supervise. The goal is not for every founder to disappear from the business. The goal is to spend more time doing the work only the founder should do, and less time carrying work the business should no longer require from them. In this episode: Why success does not always mean alignment How a founder’s role can drift over time Why energy is a diagnostic The difference between the business why and the founder’s personal why How to identify the founder’s necessary contribution Why founder freedom requires role clarity How delegation and apprenticeship help move work off the founder’s plate Why the right work should connect to gifting, energy, season of life, and impact Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. Next episode: Personal Growth — whether the business is helping you become the person you’re called to become, or keeping you stuck in an older version of yourself.

  6. Aug 25

    Why Did You Build This Business in the First Place?

    Show Notes: Is Your Role in the Business Still Working for You? A founder can build a successful business and still end up spending most of the week doing work that drains them. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Life Quality series inside the TriMetric system with the first Life Quality factor: Career & Work. This factor looks at whether the founder’s role, responsibilities, strengths, values, and desired contribution are still aligned, sustainable, and meaningful. Scott and Jeff explain why many founders drift out of alignment as the business grows. In the beginning, the founder does almost everything because the business needs it. But what was necessary early on can become a trap later. Jeff points out that every business requires some work that simply has to be done. But the deeper question is whether the business is still aligned with the founder’s personal why, not just the company’s why. That matters because many founders prioritize the business mission while ignoring whether their own role in the business still fits their gifts, energy, and season of life. Scott introduces the idea that energy is a diagnostic. Some work drains the founder. Some work creates clarity, creativity, and momentum. Career & Work is not just about job satisfaction. It is about whether the founder is spending enough time doing the work that produces their highest contribution. The episode also explores the founder’s “necessary contribution.” What does the founder uniquely bring to the business? And what tasks, decisions, meetings, or problems are pulling them away from that contribution? Jeff explains that many founders overvalue the wrong parts of themselves. They keep their hands in too many places, micromanage, or struggle to let go because they misunderstand what the business truly needs from them. Scott connects this to role clarity. If the founder’s role is undefined, everything defaults back to the founder. Founder freedom requires designing the business intentionally, including the founder’s seat, the team’s seats, and the responsibilities that should no longer live with the owner. They also discuss how to move work off the founder’s plate through delegation, accountability, and apprenticeship. Some work can be eliminated. Some can be delegated immediately. Other responsibilities need to be transferred through a simple process: watch me do it, help me do it, do it while I help, then do it while I supervise. The goal is not for every founder to disappear from the business. The goal is to spend more time doing the work only the founder should do, and less time carrying work the business should no longer require from them. In this episode: Why success does not always mean alignment How a founder’s role can drift over time Why energy is a diagnostic The difference between the business why and the founder’s personal why How to identify the founder’s necessary contribution Why founder freedom requires role clarity How delegation and apprenticeship help move work off the founder’s plate Why the right work should connect to gifting, energy, season of life, and impact Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. Next episode: Personal Growth — whether the business is helping you become the person you’re called to become, or keeping you stuck in an older version of yourself.

  7. Aug 18

    The Worst Time to Fund Your Business

    The Worst Time to Fund Your Business Show Notes Most founders only think about funding when they urgently need money. They need equipment. They need working capital. They need to hire. They need to survive a cash crunch. Or they are preparing for growth, acquisition, or exit—and suddenly their financial structure matters more than ever. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob wrap up the Five Freedom Levers series with Freedom Lever #5: Fund It — Capital Access and Banking Strategy. This lever is about making the business more bankable, more fundable, and more transferable before the pressure hits. Scott and Jeff explain why the best time to strengthen your funding position is before you need the money. When funding becomes urgent, your options are usually fewer, more expensive, and more personally risky. Jeff starts by connecting funding strategy back to financial visibility. A business that only reviews numbers weeks after the month closes is often making decisions too late. That is why BFA emphasizes current books, dashboards, and forward-looking visibility so owners can see what is happening now and prepare for what is coming next. The question is not simply, “Can we get funding?” The better question is, “Why do we need the funding, and how will we use it?” Funding used to survive a cash crunch requires a different strategy than funding used to support growth. Capital should be used wisely, with a clear understanding of cost, leverage, risk, and return. Scott and Jeff also discuss the importance of building banking relationships before you are desperate. A line of credit, for example, can be powerful because it gives the business optionality before cash gets tight. If you can responsibly increase access to credit before you need it, that can create a stronger financial position. They also explain how capital access depends on the other Freedom Levers, especially Know It and Run It. Lenders, bankers, investors, and buyers want to see clean books, clear cash flow, strong margins, reliable systems, and reduced founder dependency. If the business looks messy or chaotic, funding becomes harder to secure and easier to deny. Clean books are not just an accounting issue. They are a trust issue. If a banker or lender cannot quickly understand the financial story of the business, they see risk. And when they see risk, they may say no, charge more, require more collateral, or lower the value. Scott and Jeff also touch on the advantage of smaller, relationship-based banking partners. For small and mid-sized businesses, a more flexible banking relationship can sometimes create options that larger, more rigid institutions may not provide. The episode closes with a simple reminder: Funding should not only help you survive pressure. Used wisely, it should help you create optionality, support growth, reduce personal risk, and increase business value. In this episode: Why funding should be planned before it is urgent The difference between survival funding and growth funding Why dashboards and clean books improve bankability How banking relationships create optionality Why lenders care about cash flow, margins, systems, and founder dependency Why clean books build trust How capital strategy supports growth, value, and owner freedom This episode completes the Five Freedom Levers series: Keep It. Know It. Run It. Grow It. Fund It. To get started go to GetFreedomScore.com

  8. Aug 10

    More Sales Won’t Fix a Leaky Growth System

    More Sales Won’t Fix a Leaky Growth System Show Notes Many founders think they have a sales problem. But often, the real issue is deeper. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Five Freedom Levers series with Freedom Lever #4: Grow It — Growth Engine and Revenue Strategy. This lever is not just about getting more revenue. It is about building a growth engine that is predictable, profitable, sustainable, and not completely dependent on the founder. Scott and Jeff unpack why “we just need more sales” can be a misleading diagnosis. A company may have customers, referrals, a good reputation, and even strong demand—but growth can still feel inconsistent, chaotic, or overly dependent on the owner. The real question is whether the business has a true revenue system. A healthy growth engine includes clear offers, strong pricing, consistent lead flow, reliable follow-up, and a sales process that turns the right opportunities into healthy revenue. Jeff explains why sales and marketing are not the same thing. Marketing shapes reputation, trust, and positioning in the market. Sales fills the pipeline, converts opportunities, and creates revenue. A company can have a great reputation and still have a weak sales system. Scott and Jeff also discuss why more revenue is not always better revenue. If the business has weak margins, poor pricing, leaky processes, inconsistent delivery, or founder-dependent sales, adding more revenue may simply create more chaos. In other words, pouring more water into a leaky bucket does not solve the problem. They also explore how founder-led sales can become a major ceiling. Many businesses grow because of the founder’s relationships, reputation, hustle, and personal involvement. That can work for a while, but it limits scale and lowers transferable value. If a buyer sees that growth depends on the founder, the business looks more like a job than an asset. Jeff explains how building a scalable sales system can increase business value by making the company less dependent on one person. When the system can be run by the right people—or supported by automation and AI—the business becomes more scalable, more valuable, and more attractive to buyers. The episode closes with a reminder that the goal is not simply to grow bigger. The goal is to grow in a way that makes the business healthier, more profitable, more valuable, and less dependent on the founder. In this episode: Why “more sales” is not always the real solution The difference between sales, marketing, pricing, and growth systems Why more revenue can create more chaos How founder-led sales limits scale and transferable value Why sales systems increase enterprise value How to think about the business like an asset, not a job Why the Business Health Diagnostic helps identify which Freedom Lever to pull first Start with your Business Freedom Score at GetFreedomScore.com. Next episode: Fund It — Capital Access and Banking Strategy, where Scott and Jeff discuss how to strengthen funding options, banking relationships, and the financial position of the business.

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Welcome to The TriMetric Roadmap—the podcast for business owners who want more than just survival. Hosted by Scott Landis, creator of the TriMetric Tracking System™ and author of Balancing Act, this show explores how to scale a business without sacrificing your health, your marriage, or your sanity.Each episode dives into the 21 Critical Factors that drive Business Health, Executive Performance, and Life Quality—through the lens of the TriMetric system and the Four Pillars of Fulfillment™ (Vitality, Relationships, Freedom, and Impact). Whether you're navigating burnout, bottlenecks, or big decisions, you'll find the mindset, strategy, and tools to help you build a business that fuels your life—not one that consumes it. This podcast was formerly known as The Awakened Life and Husband On Fire.