DevReady Podcast

Aerion Technologies

We started the DevReady podcast to help non-techs build better technology. We have been exposed to so many non-techs that describe the struggle, uncertainty and challenges that can come with building technology. The objective for the DevReady podcast to share these stories and give you the tools and insights so that you to can deliver on your vision and outcomes. You will learn from non-tech founders that have invested their time and money into developing technology. We will discuss what worked, what didn’t and how they still managed to deliver real value to their users. These stories are inspirational – demonstrating the determination, commitment and resolve it really takes to deliver technology. Throughout the DevReady Podcast we also invite subject matter experts to the conversation to give you proven strategies and techniques to successfully take your idea through to delivery and beyond. Enjoy the Podcast, it will challenge you, inspire you and provide the tools you will need ...

  1. 12h ago

    Business Exit Strategy: How SaaS Founders Can Increase Business Valuation | Ep 338 | DevReady Podcast

    How do you build a SaaS business that buyers are willing to pay more for? In this episode of the DevReady Podcast, Andrew Romeo, CEO and Co-Founder of Aerion Technologies and  Co-Founder of DevReady.Ai, speaks with David Francis, Managing Director of Business Point, about business exit strategies, SaaS valuations and creating long-term enterprise value. Having held leadership roles in publicly listed and private equity-backed software companies, been acquired four times and managed acquisitions himself, David brings firsthand experience to the challenges of buying, selling and growing technology businesses. He shares why B2B SaaS founders should begin preparing for an exit well before approaching potential buyers and how reducing business risk, improving financial visibility and strengthening operations can lead to better acquisition outcomes. David explains Business Point's three-stage approach to exit readiness, beginning with a four-week value audit to assess a company's current valuation, identify risks and uncover opportunities for improvement. This leads into value creation, starting with a 90-day sprint focused on operational changes that can increase enterprise value, followed by value realisation through the eventual sale process. For SaaS founders generating between $2 million and $20 million in annual recurring revenue (ARR), particularly those considering an exit or capital raise within the next one to three years, early preparation provides time to address the issues that could affect buyer confidence. David also highlights how founder dependency can significantly influence business valuations, with buyers placing greater value on companies that have strong management teams, documented processes and the ability to operate effectively without their founders. The conversation explores the financial and operational metrics that influence SaaS business valuations, including ARR, gross revenue retention (GRR), net revenue retention (NRR), EBITDA, customer acquisition costs and churn rates. David explains how buyers assess the predictability of future earnings and factor operational risks into their offers, potentially through lower valuation multiples, earn-outs or extended founder transition periods. Andrew and David discuss the importance of maintaining buyer-ready financial records, reducing customer concentration and investing in proactive customer success strategies to improve retention. They also examine how a business can be highly profitable yet carry risks that make it less attractive to potential acquirers, reinforcing the importance of understanding what drives enterprise value from a buyer's perspective. As artificial intelligence transforms the software industry, Andrew and David examine the growing uncertainty surrounding SaaS valuations and traditional subscription pricing models. The rise of agentic AI, usage-based pricing and AI-powered software development is challenging established assumptions about predictable recurring revenue and long-term software demand. They discuss why buyers are placing greater scrutiny on revenue sustainability, growth potential and the ability of SaaS businesses to adapt to technological change. The conversation also addresses the commercial risks of rapidly developing AI-generated applications, particularly when security, compliance, maintenance and product reliability are overlooked. David and Andrew emphasise that bringing a software product to market requires more than an impressive demonstration, with the final stages of development often determining whether customers are willing to pay for it. Throughout the discussion, David reinforces the importance of treating exit readiness as an ongoing business discipline, ideally beginning around two years before a planned sale. By reducing founder dependency, strengthening financial reporting, improving customer retention and addressing operational risks early, founders can create businesses that are more resilient, attractive to buyers and rewarding to operate. Drawing on his experience as an acquirer, an acquired executive and an advisor, David explains how Business Point supports founders through value creation, the sale transaction and post-acquisition integration. For SaaS founders, CEOs and investors looking to understand what drives business value in a changing market, this episode offers practical guidance on preparing for a successful exit while building a stronger business today. #SaaS #BusinessExitStrategy #SaaSValuation #MergersAndAcquisitions #EnterpriseValue

  2. Oct 27

    AI Adoption for Business: Why Most Companies Get It Wrong | Ep 337 | DevReady Podcast

    How can businesses successfully adopt AI and turn emerging technology into measurable productivity gains? In this episode of the DevReady PodcastAnthony Sapountzis, CTO and Co-Founder of Aerion Technologies and DevReady.Ai, welcomes Thamasha (Tam) Galahena, Founder of Enable, to explore practical AI adoption for businesses. Drawing on his experience in software engineering, startups and AI enablement, Tam shares how organisations can bridge the gap between rapidly advancing AI capabilities and everyday business applications. Together, they discuss AI tools, automation, employee training and the importance of aligning technology with real business needs. Tam reflects on his journey from startup CTO to founding Enable, inspired by the significant productivity gains he experienced using AI coding tools and the limited adoption he observed among other professionals. He explains how businesses can unlock considerable value by mastering readily available AI tools before exploring complex AI agents and automation workflows. Anthony and Tam discuss the importance of selecting suitable AI models for specific tasks, managing costs and understanding where advanced capabilities genuinely add value. They also explore emerging opportunities in AI-powered computer and browser automation, particularly for organisations working with legacy systems, and consider how increasingly autonomous AI agents could handle complex business activities with less human intervention. The conversation explores how structured planning, effective prompting and reusable AI skills can improve productivity and reduce repetitive administrative work. Anthony shares his approach to breaking complex projects into smaller, clearly defined stages, allowing for continuous review and refinement. Tam illustrates the potential of AI skills through a construction industry example, where field notes can be transformed into structured reports in a fraction of the time traditionally required. Both emphasise the importance of providing detailed context, defining expected outputs and implementing safeguards to minimise AI hallucinations. Tam also shares a practical prompting technique: asking AI to interview users, identify missing information and clarify requirements before attempting a task. Turning to AI implementation across organisations, Tam explains how Enable combines technical expertise with industry knowledge to identify practical automation opportunities. Through a network of departmental AI champions, businesses can uncover valuable use cases across functions such as HR, finance, project delivery and operations. Anthony connects this approach to the role of forward-deployed engineers, who work closely with businesses to understand existing workflows and develop solutions around operational requirements. They also discuss testing AI capabilities against previously completed tasks, using clear evaluation criteria to measure accuracy, completeness and reliability. This collaborative approach helps organisations assess where AI can deliver meaningful improvements and where human expertise remains essential. As the discussion draws to a close, Anthony and Tam highlight why business process improvement and change management are fundamental to successful AI adoption. Mapping existing workflows can reveal outdated procedures, unnecessary tasks and inefficiencies that should be addressed before introducing automation. Tam encourages businesses to invest in secure, business-grade AI tools, provide employees with practical training and ensure leadership teams actively participate in learning how AI works. Both agree that experimenting with AI in everyday activities can help people discover new possibilities and develop the confidence to apply those skills professionally. Their conversation offers business leaders a practical starting point for building AI capabilities, improving operational efficiency and making informed technology investments. #DevReadyPodcast #AIAdoption #BusinessAutomation #ArtificialIntelligence #AerionTechnologies

  3. Oct 20

    How a Fractional CTO Helps Founders Take Control of Technology | Ep 336 | DevReady Podcast

    Iain White, tech consultant and founder of White Internet, joins Andrew Romeo, CEO and Co-Founder of Aerion Technologies and  Co-Founder of DevReady.Ai, on the DevReady Podcast to discuss technology leadership for founders and business owners. With more than 35 years of experience, Iain helps leaders understand what their software teams are building, what it will cost and where delivery risks lie. He explains how independent fractional CTO advice can give businesses clearer direction when projects run late, costs rise or they lack senior technology leadership. Iain describes how that support can fit a startup’s needs and budget, from a short monthly conversation to ongoing guidance for its development team. He helps founders review progress against business requirements, ask better questions and compare ways to deliver an outcome. Andrew and Iain also discuss the value of showing a product to customers early, so their feedback can inform the next investment. Customer requests and new feature ideas can make it difficult to stay focused. Iain encourages founders to weigh the cost, timeline and likely business value of each decision, particularly when a request would require significant custom work. He and Andrew consider what an MVP needs to achieve, how it might grow with the business and when strengthening an existing product could be more valuable than adding another feature. The discussion turns to the control founders have over their technology. Iain explains how he reviews a project’s delivery, team practices and risks, including reliance on a single developer or agency. Both guests emphasise the need for business owners to have direct access to their source code, repositories and infrastructure. That visibility helps leaders understand their options and respond when a working relationship or project changes. Finally, Iain and Andrew explore communication between business leaders and developers. Clear requirements, recorded decisions and room for developers to question a request can prevent avoidable delays and misunderstandings. Iain’s people-first approach centres on helping teams work to their strengths, while giving founders a clearer view of progress, trade-offs and the decisions ahead. #DevReadyPodcast #FractionalCTO #NonTechnicalFounder #TechnologyLeadership #StartupAdvice

  4. Oct 14

    Ethical Hacking: Finding Security Gaps Before Attackers Do | Ep 335 | DevReady Podcast

    How can ethical hacking help businesses uncover security gaps before attackers exploit them? In this episode of the DevReady Podcast, Victor Hanna, Director & Chief Hacking Officer of Exploit Security, joins Anthony Sapountzis, CTO and Co-Founder of Aerion Technologies and DevReady.Ai, to explore penetration testing and the value of ongoing security expertise. Their conversation covers connected devices, physical security, ageing infrastructure and the risks emerging from AI-assisted software development. For technology leaders and organisations seeking specialist support, Victor explains how an attacker’s perspective can help teams understand their exposure and strengthen their defences. Curiosity has shaped Victor’s journey from IT support, systems administration and networking into ethical hacking and business ownership. He introduces Exploit Security as a boutique offensive security consultancy with particular strengths in IoT and hardware hacking, alongside web application and physical security testing. Reflecting on his decision to establish the business, Victor describes the challenge of applying his experience independently and building relationships with clients and partners across Australia. That curiosity continues to inform his approach to investigating systems, questioning assumptions and uncovering overlooked weaknesses. Victor explains how ethical hackers use the techniques of malicious attackers during authorised assessments to identify ways an organisation could be compromised. A phishing link or stolen credentials can provide an initial foothold, while social engineering and physical access can create further opportunities. Through examples involving impersonated IT personnel, malicious USB devices and modified charging cables, he illustrates why security assessments need to consider people, processes and technology together. Anthony and Victor also discuss the consequences of a breach for revenue, reputation and customer trust, reinforcing the value of layered protection. The conversation extends to operational technology and legacy environments, where outdated firmware, unsupported systems and overlooked maintenance can leave vulnerabilities unresolved. Victor advocates involving security specialists early and maintaining visibility across the systems an organisation depends on. AI adds another dimension to that challenge: drawing on discussions he attended at DEF CON, he reflects on an account of AI agents coordinating and exploiting weaknesses in a testing environment. The discussion explores oversight of agent behaviour, zero-day vulnerabilities and responsible disclosure, including the importance of giving vendors time to address security findings. As AI-generated software and vibe coding become more common, Victor highlights the risks of overlooking authentication, permissions and data protection during development. He describes how Exploit Security works closely with clients to assess weaknesses, prioritise relevant Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVEs) and understand how vulnerabilities could combine into an attack. This ongoing advisory approach supports teams as their software and security needs evolve. Penetration testing then helps validate protective measures and identify weaknesses that still require attention. For organisations without an internal security team, Victor outlines an on-demand model that provides specialist expertise during the periods it is needed. His focus is on developing a trusted partnership, helping clients make informed security decisions throughout development and beyond. The episode offers a practical perspective on how ethical hacking, targeted assessments and ongoing collaboration can support stronger business defences. #ExploitSecurity #StayCurious #OffensiveSecurity #IoTSecurity #PenetrationTesting

  5. Oct 13

    What Every Business Should Know Before Adopting AI and New Software | Ep 334 | DevReady Podcast

    Errol Schmidt, Founder of eSquareNews and a fractional CTO, joins Anthony Sapountzis, CTO and Co-Founder of Aerion Technologies and DevReady.Ai, on the DevReady Podcast to explore what strong technology leadership looks like for small and medium businesses. Drawing on decades of experience across programming, consulting and technology strategy, Errol explains why many organisations struggle to find CTOs who can balance technical expertise, commercial awareness and effective leadership. The conversation covers fractional CTO services, software maintenance, AI adoption, SaaS sprawl, technology pilots and the growing demand for specialised software built around real business needs. A major theme of the episode is the gap between technical knowledge and management capability. Some CTOs understand strategy and communicate well with boards but lack deep technical insight, while others come from development backgrounds and remain highly technical without gaining the leadership skills required to guide teams and business decisions. Anthony and Errol discuss why modern CTOs need to understand both sides, while also staying close enough to evolving tools, technology stacks and development practices to make informed decisions. They also examine the ongoing work required to keep software reliable, secure and scalable. Businesses often focus heavily on adding new features while overlooking maintenance, infrastructure upgrades, security patches, software dependencies and operating system changes. For non-technical founders, these responsibilities can be easy to underestimate, particularly as AI-assisted development makes it faster to create software without necessarily understanding the long-term technical requirements. Errol explains why a fractional CTO can provide experienced technology leadership without the cost of hiring a full-time executive. The discussion then moves into software selection, SaaS sprawl and AI adoption. Businesses can accumulate unused licences, overlapping platforms and poorly adopted systems over time, often without clear ownership or proper training. Errol argues that technology decisions should begin with the business problem, the people involved, the existing processes and the quality of the underlying data. AI can provide significant value, but only when it supports a clearly defined objective and sits within systems and processes that are already understood. Anthony and Errol also discuss the importance of testing technology before committing significant time and money. Rather than relying on polished vendor demonstrations, businesses should run structured pilots using real data, clear success criteria and direct feedback from the people who will use the system. A decision to stop after a pilot can still represent a valuable outcome because it prevents organisations from investing further in technology that does not suit their needs. Looking ahead, Errol expects businesses to increasingly adopt specialised software designed around their own workflows, with faster development making targeted custom solutions more accessible than ever. #DevReadyPodcast #AIAdoption #TechnologyStrategy #FractionalCTO #SoftwareDevelopment #BusinessTechnology #DigitalTransformation #SaaS

  6. Oct 7

    What Every Non-Technical Founder Should Know Before Building an App | Ep 333 | DevReady Podcast

    In this episode of the DevReady Podcast, Anthony Sapountzis, CTO and Co-Founder of Aerion Technologies and DevReady.Ai, speaks with Jay Mon, Founder of City Swapp, Product Design Lead at Exceed Business Intelligence, and Founder and Lead Designer at Innomad Digital Solutions. Jay shares how her journey from broadcast media into product design and startup building was shaped by solving real-world problems, navigating the challenges of software development and learning how to build digital products more strategically. From launching her first travel-focused startup to developing City Swapp for remote workers, she reflects on the technical, financial and product lessons that changed the way she approaches startups, MVPs, marketplace growth and product validation. Jay’s first startup began with a simple problem she noticed while hosting on Airbnb. A guest needed somewhere to leave their luggage after checkout, and Jay saw an opportunity to connect travellers with nearby convenience stores that had unused storage space. The idea evolved into a digital product, but with no technical background, Jay and her co-founder found themselves navigating outsourced development teams, rising costs, delays and difficult technical decisions. The experience showed her how important it is for founders to understand enough about technology to ask the right questions, assess advice and stay involved in the development process. The startup eventually reached beta testing, but COVID disrupted the travel market and forced the project to pause. During that time, the technology became outdated, maintenance stopped and the cost of rebuilding became difficult to justify. Jay and Anthony discuss how this highlighted a broader lesson for founders: software requires ongoing investment in infrastructure, updates, documentation, maintenance and technical planning. They also explore how poorly structured code and short-term development decisions can create expensive rescue projects later, particularly when an MVP is built without considering the longer-term product vision. Those experiences directly influenced the way Jay approached City Swapp, a house-swapping and subleasing platform designed for remote workers. This time, she chose a leaner web-based model, worked with an experienced full-stack developer and selected cloud services that could scale alongside usage. Her product design experience also gave her greater ownership over the user experience, interface and technical conversations. Jay explains how staying close to the engineering process, retaining access to repositories and logins, and asking better questions helped her build with more control and fewer unnecessary costs. City Swapp also taught Jay a different set of lessons about marketplace businesses. She initially launched the platform with a subscription model, but quickly discovered the familiar marketplace challenge of balancing supply and demand. With too few listings, users had little reason to pay, prompting her to rethink monetisation and focus first on growing supply, validating demand and learning from real users. She reflects on how founder conviction can sometimes become rigidity, and why listening to feedback, validating earlier and building smaller can help founders make better product decisions. Looking ahead, Jay is repositioning City Swapp around free listings and user growth, supported by a manual KYC and verification process designed to create a safer subleasing experience for remote workers. The immediate priority is to build a strong supply of listings, grow the community and gather meaningful feedback before introducing monetisation. Throughout the conversation, Jay’s experience reinforces a practical message for startup founders: understand the problem deeply, stay flexible about the solution, plan beyond the MVP and treat every stage of product development as an opportunity to learn. #DevReadyPodcast #StartupFounder #NonTechnicalFounder #AppDevelopment #ProductDevelopment #MVP #SoftwareDevelopment #StartupLessons #TechFounders

  7. Oct 7

    Venture Capital, AI and the Future of Australian Startups | Ep 332 | DevReady Podcast

    Jordan Green, Chairman of the Pearcey Foundation and Chairman of Angels Australia, joins Andrew Romeo, CEO and Co-Founder of Aerion Technologies and  Co-Founder of DevReady.Ai, on the DevReady Podcast to explore venture capital, startup growth, AI, innovation and the future of Australia’s technology ecosystem. Drawing on decades of experience as an entrepreneur, investor and technology leader, Jordan shares lessons from building companies in Australia and Silicon Valley, co-founding one of Australia’s early successful venture capital funds and supporting founders through angel investment. The conversation covers what makes early-stage investment work, why founder capability matters as companies scale, and how Australia can strengthen its position in technology, commercialisation and AI. Jordan reflects on the realities of venture capital and why fund size can have a significant impact on performance. He explains how smaller funds can often provide more focused support to early-stage startups, while larger portfolios make it increasingly difficult for experienced investors to remain closely involved with every company. Using investors such as Ron Conway as an example, Jordan discusses the value of combining financial capital with intellectual capital, strategic guidance and a support structure that helps identify where senior investor attention is needed most. The discussion also challenges the assumption that venture capital is the only pathway to startup growth, highlighting the role of angel investors, bootstrapping and proven commercial traction. The conversation then turns to the founder journey and the challenge of scaling beyond an individual’s own strengths. Jordan explains why founders eventually need to hire both complementary skills and people who can expand the capabilities they originally brought to the company. This becomes particularly important for technical founders who may have strong coding skills but limited experience in leadership, architecture, testing or quality assurance. Jordan and Andrew connect this to the rise of vibe coding and AI-assisted software development, discussing how generative AI can accelerate development while also creating risks around security, architecture, scalability and code quality when there is insufficient technical oversight. Jordan also explores the broader impact of generative AI on innovation and research. As AI makes software and content creation easier, he warns that increased output can also create more noise, making quality harder to identify. In research, Jordan argues that AI systems can steer people towards familiar patterns because they are built to predict likely outputs from existing data, potentially narrowing the scope of genuinely exploratory work. The discussion reinforces the importance of human judgement, curiosity and specialist expertise in areas where innovation depends on moving beyond established patterns. A major part of the episode focuses on Australia’s startup ecosystem, technology heritage and long-term economic growth. Jordan discusses the importance of employee equity, angel investment, research commercialisation and policy settings that encourage founders and investors to keep building in Australia. He also reflects on Australia’s long history of technology innovation, from early digital computing and digital music to Wi-Fi, Blackmagic Design and other globally significant achievements, while explaining how the Pearcey Foundation works to preserve and promote that legacy. Looking ahead, Jordan argues that Australia already has the talent, research capability and entrepreneurial strength required to succeed in areas such as AI and advanced technology, with future growth depending on better collaboration between government, universities, investors, founders and the wider business community. #DevReadyPodcast #JordanGreen #AustralianStartups #VentureCapital #AngelInvesting #ArtificialIntelligence #AustralianTech #StartupFunding #TechInnovation

  8. Sep 30

    How AI Is Changing Software Development: Courtney Smith on What Comes Next | Ep 331|DevReady Podcast

    How is AI changing the way businesses plan, build and use software? In this episode of the the DevReady Podcast, Andrew Romeo, CEO and Co-Founder of Aerion Technologies and  Co-Founder of DevReady.Ai,  speaks with Courtney Smith, CEO of Strategy & Innovation at Kynection, founder of the Firefly Initiative and director of Quallogi. Drawing on more than 25 years in technology, Courtney shares lessons from building GPS hardware, mobile applications and enterprise software. Together, they explore rapid prototyping, AI adoption and the decisions businesses face as technology moves faster. Courtney explains how Kynection helps businesses in civil construction, mining and transport manage complex operations and costly assets. His experience has shown that a successful software rollout needs an engaged champion within the client’s organisation, regular stakeholder feedback and an agreed definition of success. Delivering a useful result early gives teams something concrete to assess and helps maintain momentum as the solution develops. As AI speeds up software development, Andrew and Courtney discuss the work required to keep outcomes reliable. Human testing and user feedback remain central to understanding whether a system solves the right problem. Courtney describes how Kynection balances experimentation with stable deployment and builds AI capability across its team. Andrew shares Aerion Technologies’ experience of reviewing and validating a growing volume of AI-assisted code, alongside the value of sharing lessons between colleagues. The conversation turns to clickable prototypes and their role in software planning. Courtney explains that written requirements can leave room for different interpretations, which may only become clear when a client sees the first version of a product. Rapid prototypes allow teams to show an interface sooner, walk stakeholders through it and uncover feedback while there is still time to shape the design. Capturing the underlying business requirements remains essential. Courtney also describes how AI has changed technical hiring at Kynection, where candidates may be asked to demonstrate their development process using AI tools. From there, he and Andrew consider where businesses should keep their data and intellectual property as they adopt AI. They discuss the potential for smaller models to handle routine processes, such as invoice processing, and for local AI tools to give organisations more control over their information. Looking further ahead, Courtney shares experiments ranging from studying workplace interruptions to exploring robots for construction site safety checks. He encourages business owners to preserve operational knowledge and make time to explore practical uses for emerging technology. Andrew and Courtney also consider how autonomous vehicles could affect mobility and car ownership, and how AI might help people connect ideas across different fields. #DevReadyPodcast #AI #SoftwareDevelopment #RapidPrototyping #BusinessTechnology

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We started the DevReady podcast to help non-techs build better technology. We have been exposed to so many non-techs that describe the struggle, uncertainty and challenges that can come with building technology. The objective for the DevReady podcast to share these stories and give you the tools and insights so that you to can deliver on your vision and outcomes. You will learn from non-tech founders that have invested their time and money into developing technology. We will discuss what worked, what didn’t and how they still managed to deliver real value to their users. These stories are inspirational – demonstrating the determination, commitment and resolve it really takes to deliver technology. Throughout the DevReady Podcast we also invite subject matter experts to the conversation to give you proven strategies and techniques to successfully take your idea through to delivery and beyond. Enjoy the Podcast, it will challenge you, inspire you and provide the tools you will need ...