National Rural Education Association Official Podcast

Dr. Bill Chapman, Dr Melissa Sadorf

Welcome to the official podcast of the National Rural Education Association, called the Rural Voice. Co-Hosted by Drs. Melissa Sadorf, Bill Chapman, and Christopher F. Silver discuss the common themes and experiences faced by teachers, parents, and administrators in rural elementary and secondary education.

  1. 4d ago

    S05E12 - Building Rural Schools That Last: A Conversation with NFARE Keynote Dr. PJ Caposey

    In this episode of The Rural Voice, Dr. Melissa Sadorf, Dr. Bill Chapman, and Dr. Christopher F. Silver speak with Dr. PJ Caposey, superintendent of Oregon Community Unit School District 220, best-selling author, and upcoming keynote speaker at the National Forum to Advance Rural Education. A nationally recognized public education leader and the most published sitting superintendent in the country, Dr. Caposey reflects on the experiences that transformed his understanding of effective school leadership. Dr. Caposey discusses becoming a rural principal at age 28 and the difficult early leadership experience that forced him to reconsider an approach driven primarily by ambition, authority, and work ethic. He explains how he came to understand that leadership is fundamentally human work centered on relationships, accountability, influence, and the development of others. The conversation explores the difference between school culture and climate, the importance of building systems that can operate independently of one charismatic leader, and why rural districts should prioritize retaining and developing the educators they already have. Dr. Caposey also discusses instructional rigor, the need to measure whether programs and processes actually improve student outcomes, and the value of returning to proven educational fundamentals rather than pursuing innovation for its own sake. Drawing from his experiences, Dr. Caposey offers a candid perspective on work, purpose, self-awareness, and personal growth. The episode concludes with a compelling argument that effective rural school leaders can change not only the trajectory of their schools, but also the educational and economic future of their communities.

    S05E12 - Building Rural Schools That Last: A Conversation with NFARE Keynote Dr. PJ Caposey
  2. Jun 2

    S05E07 - Rural Schools at the Front Edge of AI, an interview with Dr. Beth Rabbitt

    Artificial intelligence is no longer a future issue for schools. It is already shaping how educators plan, teach, lead, and prepare students for the workforce. In this episode of The Rural Voice, Dr. Christopher Silver and Dr. Bill Chapman are joined by Dr. Beth Rabbitt, Co-Chief Executive Officer of FullScale, for a timely conversation about AI, rural education, and the future of learning. Dr. Rabbitt explains why rural schools may be positioned not as late adopters, but as potential leaders in thoughtful AI implementation. Drawing from FullScale’s national work with rural districts, she discusses how AI can expand access, build operational capacity, support teachers, and help students develop the adaptability needed for a rapidly changing economy. She also addresses the practical concerns educators are facing, including student data privacy, FERPA, AI misuse, teacher readiness, and the limits of generative AI. The conversation offers concrete guidance for school leaders, including the use of red-light, yellow-light, and green-light protocols for classroom AI use, the importance of district-level policy, and the value of allowing teachers to safely tinker with new tools before using them with students. Dr. Rabbitt also encourages educators to approach AI not as an expert replacement, but as a “helpful, coachable, smart, but young intern” that still requires human judgment, oversight, and ethical decision-making. This episode is especially relevant for rural educators, school administrators, district leaders, and anyone thinking about how schools can prepare students for an uncertain future while protecting the human relationships, creativity, and local wisdom that remain central to education.

    S05E07 - Rural Schools at the Front Edge of AI, an interview with Dr. Beth Rabbitt
  3. Apr 24

    S05E06 - Building Strong Readers in Rural Schools: An Interview with Ms. Tracy Kingsley and Ms. Ashley Wood

    This episode of The Rural Voice podcast features a conversation with Superintendent Tracy Kingsley and teacher Ashley Wood from the Newburgh R2 School District in rural Missouri, highlighting how a structured literacy coaching initiative transformed early reading outcomes in their schools. In response to post-COVID learning loss, teacher inexperience, and inconsistent literacy instruction, the district partnered with TNTP to implement a coaching model grounded in the science of reading. The approach emphasized collaboration over evaluation, with coaches working directly alongside teachers through classroom visits, modeling, and ongoing feedback. This support led to curriculum changes, stronger alignment between grade levels, and significant gains in foundational literacy skills, including a dramatic increase in first-grade reading proficiency. District leadership played a key role by prioritizing professional development, protecting instructional time, and fostering teacher buy-in through trust and shared decision-making. The discussion also underscores the importance of family engagement, data-driven assessment, and long-term sustainability planning in small rural districts. More broadly, the episode frames literacy coaching as a scalable, high-impact strategy while raising concerns about funding, policy pressures, and the future of rural education. Bios Tracy Kingsley is the Superintendent of the Newburg R-II School District and is currently in her third year in that role. She brings 30 years of experience in public education, including 18 years as an elementary teacher, one year as a reading coach, and 11 years in administration. Her background reflects a sustained focus on literacy, instruction, and school leadership in rural education settings. Ashley Wood is a kindergarten teacher at Newburg R-II School District, currently in her second year of teaching and her second year in the kindergarten classroom. Prior to becoming a teacher, she spent two years working as an Early Childhood Special Education paraprofessional in Rolla immediately after high school. She is currently completing her bachelor’s degree in early childhood education and is set to graduate in May.

    S05E06 - Building Strong Readers in Rural Schools: An Interview with Ms. Tracy Kingsley and Ms. Ashley Wood
  4. Mar 31

    S05E05 - Rethinking Success: Music Education, Community, and the Power of Rural Schools. An Interview with Dr. Daniel Johnson

    In this episode of The Rural Voice, Dr. Christopher Silver, Dr. Melissa Sadorf, and Dr. Bill Chapman welcome Dr. Daniel Johnson, Professor of Music and Music Education at the University of North Carolina Wilmington, where he coordinates the graduate studies program in music education. Drawing on more than 30 years of experience teaching across the K–16 spectrum in public, independent, and community-based settings, Johnson brings both scholarly depth and practical insight to a conversation focused on rural education. A graduate of the New England Conservatory of Music, the University of Arizona, and Emory University, his work spans rural music education, interdisciplinary arts education, and teacher professional development. An internationally recognized authority on classroom music instruction and assessment, he has presented widely to organizations such as the National Association for Music Education, the International Society for Music Education, and the College Music Society. He is also the editor of the new two-volume publication, Music Education in Rural America, as well as other works such as Holistic Musical Thinking and Musical Explorations: Fundamentals Through Experience. The episode begins with Johnson reflecting on his early teaching experiences in rural Vermont, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts, where he developed a lasting appreciation for the importance of community connection, local context, and the role of music as a vehicle for human engagement in small-town schools. These formative experiences directly inform his current work, including his latest project, a two-volume book developed in collaboration with 20 rural teachers and teacher-educators from across the country. Designed as both a policy-oriented and practice-oriented resource, the project represents one of the first comprehensive efforts to center rural music education as a distinct and valuable area of study. The conversation then turns to key themes emerging from this work, including a critique of “urban normativity,” or the assumption that urban-centered models define educational quality. Johnson argues that such assumptions can obscure the strengths of rural schools and constrain how success is understood. Instead, he advances an asset-based framework that emphasizes what rural educators and communities already do well, encouraging a shift away from deficit-oriented thinking. Throughout the episode, the group explores the realities of rural music teaching, including the demands of serving as a generalist across grade levels and content areas, as well as the professional isolation that can accompany these roles. At the same time, Johnson highlights the unique opportunities rural contexts offer, including programmatic flexibility, sustained relationships with students, and a central role in fostering community identity and engagement. The discussion also addresses interdisciplinary arts integration, emphasizing how music can be meaningfully connected to other subject areas through shared conceptual frameworks rather than being treated as a supplementary or “special” subject. The episode concludes with practical implications for educators, school leaders, and policymakers, underscoring the importance of supporting music teachers, valuing locally grounded approaches, and creating space for innovation that reflects the realities of rural communities. Overall, this conversation offers a clear and applied perspective on how music education can serve as both a pedagogical tool and a community-building force, while challenging dominant assumptions about what constitutes quality education in rural settings.

    S05E05 - Rethinking Success: Music Education, Community, and the Power of Rural Schools. An Interview with Dr. Daniel Johnson

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Welcome to the official podcast of the National Rural Education Association, called the Rural Voice. Co-Hosted by Drs. Melissa Sadorf, Bill Chapman, and Christopher F. Silver discuss the common themes and experiences faced by teachers, parents, and administrators in rural elementary and secondary education.