The Prymal Podcast

Dan Campion

Building robust, healthy and happy humans, the Prymal Podcast explores the world of health, performance, identity, business, life and success. With interviews and stories from inspirational guests and experts from fascinating fields, optimise your body, solve your problems, experience the world and take control of your life. Hosted by Dan Campion.

  1. The Hidden Cost of Chasing Success, And How To Redefine It | Kellie Fennell | #123

    FEB 12

    The Hidden Cost of Chasing Success, And How To Redefine It | Kellie Fennell | #123

    Kellie Fennell is a coach, business owner, speaker, parent, and podcast host who has achieved huge success helping others transform their minds and bodies - while quietly burning herself out in the process. You’ll learn about: The productivity trap and performance-based identity Why behaviour change fails without belief change Pain vs suffering External metrics vs internal metrics Burnout at the height of success Internal locus of control The role of expectation in happiness How to create space instead of constant consumption Why healing isn’t becoming someone new - it’s remembering who you are The discussion moves beyond fitness into identity, unlearning inherited beliefs, and giving yourself permission to change. Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get your FREE copy of 20 Books and Podcasts to Change Your Life: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/prymal/bookspodcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters: 00:00:00 – Pain vs Suffering 00:03:45 – Burnout at the Height of Success 00:08:10 – Performance Identity and Self-Worth 00:12:30 – Why Money Doesn’t Fix Misalignment 00:16:00 – The Productivity Trap 00:20:45 – External Metrics vs Internal Metrics 00:27:40 – The 5 Regrets of the Dying 00:37:00 – “You Have 6 Months Left” Thought Experiment 00:45:45 – Psychological Safety and Play 00:52:30 – Facing 18 Years of Avoided Grief 01:06:20 – Healing Isn’t Becoming Someone New 01:11:19 – You Can’t Sustain Behaviour Without Belief Change 01:16:19 – Stop Consuming, Create Space 01:18:51 – Accepting Emotion Instead of Escaping It 01:21:36 – The Lamb in the Oven: Unlearning Inherited Beliefs 01:23:55 – The Elephant Rope: Breaking Self-Limiting Beliefs 01:25:44 – Redefining the Mountain 01:32:17 – Giving Yourself Permission to Change 01:35:35 – The Power of Retreat and Space

    2h 2m
  2. JAN 21

    Truth vs Perception: Why Everyone Thinks They’re Right

    Truth is messy, and most people confuse belief with fact. That’s why online discourse feels like everyone is fighting for “objective reality” when we’re all operating from different conditioning, experiences, and algorithms. This episode explores the difference between subjective truth and objective truth, why “my truth” can become a defence mechanism, and how to stop outsourcing responsibility for how you feel. Covering ego, fear, victimhood, echo chambers, and why the real work isn’t “finding truth” - it’s letting go of distortion so you can respond with more calm, clarity, and compassion. If you’ve ever felt reactive, cynical, or exhausted by culture wars and certainty, this one will help you see what’s actually going on under the surface. Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get your FREE copy of 20 Books and Podcasts to Change Your Life: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/prymal/bookspodcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 00:00:00 Intro - calm year, why “truth” matters 00:00:34 Truth vs perception - why everyone thinks their view is objective 00:06:03 Death as “objective truth” and why meaning is still subjective 00:07:28 The real win - becoming less reactive to other people’s beliefs 00:12:26 The eulogy exercise - denial of death and “cope” 00:14:33 “My truth” - honest expression vs unchallengeable shield 00:20:32 Buddhism, psychedelics, and the “golden nugget” under conditioning 00:22:23 “My expression of the truth” - a better way to speak 00:25:11 Responsibility vs victimhood - owning what you express 00:26:21 The tell - “live this way so I feel safe” 00:28:46 Echo chambers and algorithm-shaped reality 00:31:16 Love, validation, and codependency as truth substitutes 00:36:08 Why most people agree on most things - nuance dies online 00:39:36 Fatherhood as a rite of passage for truth and accountability 00:46:48 “Tell the truth” - why truth is the adventure 00:48:24 Integration - notice the trigger, take responsibility, choose response

    49 min
  3. Live Life on Your Terms - Mission Over Validation | Phil Graham

    JAN 7

    Live Life on Your Terms - Mission Over Validation | Phil Graham

    Most people don’t build businesses to serve, they build them to be seen. And eventually that validation runs out. Phil Graham has coached 12,000+ business owners and disrupted industries. In this conversation he breaks down the real difference between founders who last and founders who quit - emotional resilience, decision velocity, and building a mission that’s bigger than your need for approval. He explains 'the Ferrari trap', why marketing and sales is a moral responsibility if you genuinely help people, and how to design a lifestyle business that gives you authority, freedom and profitability - so you can actually live life on your terms. Key topics: Mission over validation (and why validation always runs out) Emotional resilience as the founder advantage Fear as fuel vs fear as a crippler Decision velocity and course correction Risk: upside, downside, recoverability Lifestyle business vs enterprise Marketing/sales as responsibility, don’t be the best kept secret Fatherhood, standards, and “am I worth modelling?” Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get your FREE copy of 20 Books and Podcasts to Change Your Life: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/prymal/bookspodcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:00:00:26 Emotional resilience and why founders fail00:01:35 Vision bigger than yourself and holding risk00:06:49 Emotional triggers, identity, and regulation00:07:40 Detaching from judgement and approval00:11:14 Fear, uncertainty, and meaning00:12:00 Mission as fuel, not motivation00:18:08 Validation vs mission, the Ferrari trap00:31:16 Solitude, self-trust, build a company with yourself00:36:27 Marketing and sales as moral responsibility00:41:47 Decision velocity, stop “thinking about it”00:43:07 Risk filter: upside, downside, recoverability00:49:52 Lifestyle business vs enterprise, choose the game00:58:13 Fatherhood: “am I worth modelling?”01:06:01 Fear as fuel vs fear as crippler01:20:30 Phil’s journey, what’s next01:24:11 Authority, freedom, profitability - living on your terms

    1h 26m
  4. Building A Bulletproof Mindset & Overcoming Tragedy - Ryan Curtis

    12/09/2025

    Building A Bulletproof Mindset & Overcoming Tragedy - Ryan Curtis

    Ryan Curtis experienced a terrible training accident that ended his professional MMA career and threatened to leave him completely paralysed. In this powerful conversation, we explore the mindset that helped him recover against the odds, rebuild his identity, and find meaning in the middle of chaos. Ryan explains why nothing about him is “special”, why mindset is trainable, and why sitting with your own thoughts might be the most important skill you ever develop. We discuss: How resilience is built long before hardship arrives Why most people misunderstand failure The emotional engine behind discipline Why presence matters more than happiness How to stop living an unconscious life The role of identity, values and fatherhood Why gratitude is a practical tool, not a cliché The truth about success, external validation and social media How to build a life you’re proud of, one decision at a time Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get your FREE copy of 20 Books and Podcasts to Change Your Life: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/prymal/bookspodcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Key topics: resilience, mindset, identity, fatherhood, purpose, self-reflection, discipline, values, personal growth, presence, gratitude, unconscious living, mental strength. 00:00:00 – Why inspiration fades 00:05:10 – Building a stronger mind 00:12:40 – Lessons from losing 00:19:30 – Who you choose to be 00:26:20 – The pull of social media 00:33:45 – Living on autopilot 00:40:50 – Facing hard truths 00:48:25 – Strength in community 01:00:00 – Defining your values 01:06:10 – Sitting with yourself 01:14:40 – Presence over happiness 01:23:20 – When life stops you 01:31:15 – The trap of wanting more 01:38:40 – Fatherhood and meaning 01:46:50 – Owning your imperfections 01:53:40 – What failure shows you 01:57:10 – Made In Chaos

    2h 1m
  5. You Can't Change Until You Slow Down

    11/27/2025

    You Can't Change Until You Slow Down

    Most of us think we need more discipline, motivation, or structure. But in reality, we need something far simpler - to slow down. Brian O'Loughlin explores the deeper lessons behind the Prymal 60 challenge and uncovers a more honest truth about change: You can’t create transformation from a dysregulated, overwhelmed, overstimulated state. You don’t think your way into clarity - you feel your way there. This episode dives into: Nervous system regulation as the foundation for growth Why slowing down reveals the truth you’ve been avoiding The hidden warning signs of burnout How “containers” help us confront unconscious patterns Why presence is more transformative than productivity Why challenges often fail unless they create internal space The relationship between emotion, behaviour, and identity How to reconnect with yourself through simple daily practices If you’ve been stuck in cycles of overwhelm, distraction, stress, or self-sabotage, this conversation will feel like an exhale. Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get your FREE copy of 20 Books and Podcasts to Change Your Life: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/prymal/bookspodcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 0:00:00 – You Can’t Change Until You Slow Down 0:03:18 – The Real Purpose of Prymal 60 0:08:45 – Nervous System Overload & Hidden Burnout 0:14:32 – How Disconnection Becomes the Default 0:20:28 – Containers: Why Structure Creates Safety 0:26:41 – The Sludge Above the Gold (Emotional Truth) 0:33:15 – Walking, Breathwork & Simple Regulation 0:38:52 – Presence vs Productivity 0:44:09 – Emotional Awareness vs Intellectual Understanding 0:50:34 – The Body Always Knows First 0:56:12 – Burnout as a Bodily Realisation 1:02:25 – Why Change Feels Impossible When You’re Dysregulated 1:09:08 – Permission, Vulnerability & Male Friendship 1:14:26 – What We Actually Learned from Prymal 60 1:20:57 – Integrating These Lessons Going Forward Key topics: nervous system, burnout, slowing down, emotional awareness, personal growth, presence, self-regulation, Prymal 60, behaviour change, trauma, embodiment, mindfulness, self-awareness, reflection, transformation, accountability, unconscious patterns.

    1 hr
  6. Building Awareness & Taking Action: How Great Coaching Helps You Grow - Mark O'Reilly

    11/05/2025

    Building Awareness & Taking Action: How Great Coaching Helps You Grow - Mark O'Reilly

    Real growth begins with awareness, but awareness alone doesn’t create change or growth. The difference between staying stuck and moving forward lies in what you do next. Mark O’Reilly is an ICF accredited coach with an MSc in Mental Health and Mental Skills, an MSc in Work and Organisational Psychology, and Professional Diplomas in Strategy, Development & Innovation, Leadership & Management and Sport Psychology. We explore how great coaching helps people develop awareness, turn clarity into progress, the link between awareness, accountability, and action, the real distinction between coaching and therapy, and how to design change that lasts. You’ll learn: - How coaching turns awareness into measurable progress - The difference between therapy and coaching (and when each applies) - Why accountability creates momentum - How to build awareness you can actually use - Simple tools to create change that sticks - How to learn the skill of taking more action - How to break narratives you hold and nurture more self belief - How solid coaching principles apply across so many areas from sport to relationships to business And much more! Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get your FREE copy of 20 Books and Podcasts to Change Your Life: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/prymal/bookspodcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters: 0:00:00 – Building Awareness & Taking Action   0:05:02 – What Coaching Really Is (and Isn’t)   0:11:40 – Awareness as the Foundation of Change   0:18:28 – Coaching vs Therapy – Knowing the Difference   0:25:44 – Accountability – Turning Clarity into Progress   0:33:22 – Why Awareness Without Action Keeps You Stuck   0:40:09 – Designing Change That Actually Works   0:47:51 – Coaching in Practice – Lessons from Real Clients   0:55:38 – Habits, Reflection, and Momentum   1:03:06 – Building a Framework for Ongoing Growth   1:10:44 – Awareness as a Lifelong Skill "You can't think your way into changing. You have to move." Key Topics: coaching, awareness, accountability, action, personal growth, behaviour change, therapy vs coaching, mindset, clarity, self-improvement, Mark O’Reilly, Prymal Podcast, performance, progress, leadership, transformation.

    1h 42m
  7. Motivation Myths & How To Actually Build Longevity - Adam Ward

    10/28/2025

    Motivation Myths & How To Actually Build Longevity - Adam Ward

    Most of us get motivation wrong, we chase quick highs instead of building real systems. High Performance Coach Adam Ward breaks down the myths around motivation and explain how to build health, discipline, and longevity that actually last. It's not about aesthetics or hype, it’s about energy, consistency, and building a life that works. The goal should be HEALTH. You’ll learn: The most common motivation myths that keep people stuck Why discipline beats willpower every time How to create a training system that fits your real life What longevity really means (and how to measure it) The connection between energy, health, and purpose How to stay consistent when life gets messy Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get your FREE copy of 20 Books and Podcasts to Change Your Life: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/prymal/bookspodcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters: 0:00:00 - Intro – Motivation Myths & Longevity   0:04:12 - Why Motivation Doesn’t Last   0:09:40 - Discipline vs Motivation – The Real Difference   0:16:02 - How to Build Systems That Stick   0:22:47 - The Longevity Mindset – Training for Life   0:29:21 - Why Energy Is the Ultimate Metric   0:36:05 - Recovery and Rest as Performance Tools   0:42:50 - Avoiding Comparison & The Social Media Trap   0:49:35 - How to Stay Consistent When Life Gets Busy   0:56:11 - Health, Family & Showing Up for What Matters   1:03:03 - Closing Reflections – Longevity That Lasts Key topics: Adam Ward, Prymal Podcast, motivation myths, longevity, discipline, consistency, habits, performance, wellness, healthspan, motivation vs discipline, training for life, lifestyle design, balance, recovery, energy, sustainable fitness.

    1h 28m
  8. Mindset Isn't Enough: The Neuroscience Of Real Change - Brian Pennie

    10/22/2025

    Mindset Isn't Enough: The Neuroscience Of Real Change - Brian Pennie

    What if the real key to change isn’t mindset – it’s biology? Brian Pennie – speaker, author and neuroscientist who overcame 15 years of heroin addiction – explains why true growth starts with the body. We talk about the neuroscience of habit, addiction, resilience, and how modern life hijacks our nervous systems through information overload and constant outrage online. You’ll learn: Why you can’t outthink poor sleep or nutrition How biology drives mindset, performance & behaviour Addiction as a spectrum – why we all have patterns we cling to How to build real self-awareness without shame Why social media addicts us to outrage and how to break free The difference between impact and attention in the wellness space Why meaning and responsibility are the antidote to chaos 📖 Brian’s book: Bonus Time 🎥 Watch his RTÉ documentary: Hooked – How Addiction Hijacks Your Brain Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get your FREE copy of 20 Books and Podcasts to Change Your Life: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/prymal/bookspodcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters: 0:00:00 - Intro – Why Brian Pennie’s Story Matters   0:04:30 - The Moment Everything Changed   0:09:15 - From Addiction to Awareness: Reframing Pain as a Teacher   0:15:10 - The Neuroscience of Habits and Identity Change   0:21:45 - Start with Biology: The Foundation of Performance   0:27:30 - Why You Can’t Outthink Your Body   0:33:10 - Addiction Is Part of Human Nature   0:40:45 - Impact vs Business in the Wellness World   0:51:20 - Outsourced Outrage: Social Media and the Hijacked Nervous System   0:58:00 - Responsibility, Meaning, and Service   1:10:00 - Closing Reflections and Daily Integration Key Topics: Brian Pennie, Prymal Podcast, biology vs mindset, neuroscience, addiction, self-improvement, personal growth, performance, resilience, awareness, mental health, dopamine, wellbeing, sleep, nutrition, social media outrage.

    1h 41m

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Building robust, healthy and happy humans, the Prymal Podcast explores the world of health, performance, identity, business, life and success. With interviews and stories from inspirational guests and experts from fascinating fields, optimise your body, solve your problems, experience the world and take control of your life. Hosted by Dan Campion.

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