The Bad Roman: Christian Politics for Modern Times

Craig Harguess

Are you a Christian who feels disillusioned by politics? Do you see political systems—whether democratic, authoritarian, or otherwise—promising change but often leaving you unfulfilled? As followers of Christ, our calling isn’t tied to any earthly power; it’s to live like Jesus, no matter the political landscape. On this podcast, we explore what it means to set aside man-made allegiances—be they national, partisan, or ideological—and instead take up the Cross. Host Craig Harguess, a former neoconservative Southern Baptist Republican turned pacifist and Christian Voluntaryist, delves into the complex relationship between faith and political power. Through conversations with everyday Christians, church leaders, and even non-Christians, we challenge the ways politics can distract us from God’s work. True change starts where we are—because when we live like Christ, the world around us shifts, regardless of who holds power. New episodes release bi-weekly. Learn more at www.thebadroman.com.

  1. Flock Cameras, Privacy, and the Surveillance State with Jon Padfield

    May 21

    Flock Cameras, Privacy, and the Surveillance State with Jon Padfield

    Should Christians care about privacy? The surveillance state does not need your worship; it just needs your fear. In this episode, Craig talks with Jon Padfield of Business Reform about Flock cameras, license plate readers, data brokers, and why Christians should question any system that treats neighbors like suspects and calls it safety. Jon brings experience as an engineer, former Indiana state representative, professor, and Christian privacy advocate. Together, he and Craig unpack the old line, “If you have nothing to hide, why worry?” and ask the better question: who gave Caesar the right to decide what counts as wrong? This is not just about cameras on poles. It is about fear, consent, courage, and the way surveillance trains people to obey before anyone even gives an order. Can Christians simply shrug and say, “I have nothing to hide”? Jesus did not call us to outsource our courage to Caesar or trade neighbor-love for state-managed safety. They dig into: Why the “nothing to hide” argument fails How Flock cameras expand beyond stolen-car searches Data brokers, insurance companies, and digital profiling Public records, local pushback, and privacy laws Christian resistance in a watched world 📖 For Full Show Notes: http://thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-161 🤝Connect with Jon Padfield🤝 YouTube: Business Reform Buy Me Coffee Tour: Brush Fires of Freedom Tour Privacy tool mentioned: DeFlock Me LinkedIn X: @Dr_Jon_Padfield TikTok: businessreform Listen & Reflect: Listen Listen for the way Jon connects technology, public policy, business, and faith. Ask yourself where surveillance has already become normal in your own town. Reflect Where have you accepted “safety” language without asking who gains power from it? Have you ever used the phrase “nothing to hide” without thinking about who gets to define guilt? Read Read Matthew 10:16–31 and Psalm 146. Sit with Jesus’ call to be wise, fearless, and loyal to God above rulers. Practice Look up whether your city or county uses Flock cameras. Talk with one neighbor about privacy, consent, and what it means to love people without treating them like suspects. Key Moments: (00:00) Should Christians care about privacy? Flock cameras and public unease (01:23) Meet Jon Padfield Business Reform YouTube channel (03:00) Surveillance changes behavior You Already Have a Reputation Score (05:25) The “nothing to hide” fallacy (06:00) What Flock cameras are Deflock mapping tool (09:30) Beyond license plates (12:00) Daycare camera concerns Audit logs from Dunwoody daycare (17:54) Who decides what is wrong? (20:37) Local, state, and federal use (22:30) Who owns the data? Flock’s perpetual license Data retention concerns (24:20) “Investigation” as a search reason (27:08) Pushback and privacy laws Ring  Superbowl backlash (28:15) Local wins against Flock (31:00) Federal privacy law concerns (34:21) Data brokers and insurance companies (41:30) How cameras appear without debate (45:56) Consent and government power (49:30) The four boxes (52:32) Christian resistance and voting (55:00) Jon’s case for engagement (1:02:54) Brothers, not enemies (1:04:00) Pragmatic limits on surveillance (1:07:00) Safety arguments (1:28:00) Where to find Jon (1:29:13) Closing and support   🔗 Ways to Get Involved in the Project 🔗 Blog submissions:https://www.thebadroman.com/contribute-to-the-blog Connect with us on social:https://www.thebadroman.com/social-links Want to get more involved? Request to join the private discussion group on Facebook (Bad Romans Only!!) Explore the No King but Christ Network:https://www.nokingbutchristnetwork.com/

    1h 31m
  2. May 7

    Revelation 18, Ephesians 6, and the Love of Money with Brandon Kroll

    What happens when Christians stop looking to government to do what only Christ can do? Brandon Kroll returns to explore Christian anarchism, Revelation 18, Ephesians 6, the love of money, and the spiritual powers at work behind the systems we trust too easily. What begins with the merchants of Babylon becomes a deeper reflection on empire, deception, money, and whether followers of Jesus should keep trying to fix the world through the kingdoms of this age. This episode traces the tension between earthly power and heavenly citizenship, asking where our loyalty really belongs when Christ calls us out of fear, control, and allegiance to Caesar. They Explore: Christian anarchism and allegiance to Christ Revelation 18, merchants, and deception Ephesians 6 and spiritual warfare The love of money as a loyalty issue Merchant power and America’s roots Digital control, dependence, and fear Christian nationalism and the lure of power citizenship in heaven and what belongs to Caesar 📖 For Full Show Notes: http://thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-160 🤝Connect with Brandon Kroll🤝 Previous Bad Roman Episodes EP 123 Patriot or Saint with Brandon Kroll Mana Daily Podcast on YouTube Mana Daily Podcast on Spotify Mana Daily Podcast on Rumble Mana Daily Podcast Patreon Listen & Reflect Listen: Listen for the way Brandon and Craig connect money, empire, and spiritual warfare, not as abstract ideas, but as real pressures that shape how we live and who we trust. Reflect: Where have we asked government, wealth, or political order to give us the peace and security that belong to Christ alone? Where have fear and comfort made us slow to question empire? Read: Revelation 18:23, Ephesians 6:10–20, 1 Timothy 6:6–10, and Philippians 3:20. Pay attention to what Scripture says about merchants, rulers, money, spiritual powers, and the citizenship that belongs to heaven. Practice: This week, name one system you trust for safety, comfort, or control, and ask whether that trust has taken a place in your heart that belongs to Jesus.   Key Moments: (0:00) Is Christian anarchism a good place to be as empire grows? (3:20) Revelation 18, merchants, and deception (4:44) America founded by merchants (6:58) Articles of Confederation and federal control (7:33) Property, money, and public voice (24:18) Saints, rulers, and the governments of this world (35:03) Technology, feeds, and programmed belief (36:53) Ephesians 6 and the real battle (37:20) Government, demons, or both? (49:14) Rome, Charlie Kirk and Christian nationalist imagination (50:40) Restrictions, surveillance, and forced “Christian” order (59:23) Fear, compliance, and getting back to normal (1:00:00) Voting, agency, and what we hand to government (1:02:41) Caesar, land and sea, and citizenship in heaven   Consider Supporting the Show 💕 Help us keep the lights on! 💕 Support the show at http://thebadroman.com/donate. Every gift helps, and everything beyond production costs goes to local charities in Memphis, Tennessee. 🌶️ SALSA THE LOVE 🌶️ Want to support the project in a tastier way? Grab Bad Roman Salsa at https://badromansalsa.com. Every jar helps fund more No King but Christ conversations and keeps this work independent. Want to support the project another way? Share this episode with a friend and ask: Have I trusted the systems of this world to do what only Christ can do?   🔗 Ways to Get Involved in the Project 🔗 Blog submissions:https://www.thebadroman.com/contribute-to-the-blog Connect with us on social:https://www.thebadroman.com/social-links Want to get more involved? Request to join the private discussion group on Facebook (Bad Romans Only!!) Explore the No King but Christ Network:https://www.nokingbutchristnetwork.com/

    1h 8m
  3. Apr 23

    The Law vs. The Gospel | Paul, Galatians, & Christ with Cody Cook

    What if the gospel is not just about being declared right, but about being rescued from a world that keeps trying to enslave us? Cody Cook returns to the show for a conversation about Galatians, law, union with Christ, the present evil age, and the spiritual powers Jesus came to defeat. What begins as a discussion of Cody’s book Delivered from the Evil Age of the Present becomes something deeper: a reflection on how we read Paul, what Galatians 4 is really saying, and why the gospel is bigger than being declared right. This episode traces the movement from law, slavery, and the “elementary principles of the world” toward rescue, adoption, new creation, and the kind of allegiance that belongs to Christ alone. They Explore: Galatians and the question of law or Christ old, new, and apocalyptic readings of Paul union with Christ, adoption, and being made new the “present evil age” and rescue through Jesus stoicheia and the “elementary principles of the world” spiritual powers, slavery, and the scope of salvation ordo amoris, J.D. Vance, and nation-first love why Christian nationalism distorts our loves 📖 For Full Show Notes: thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-159 🤝Connect with Cody Cook🤝 Book: Delivered from the Evil Age of the Present: How Jesus Brought About a New Creation by Subverting the Powers Behind Nationalism and Ethnic Identitarianism Explore Cody’s Books: The Anarchist Anabaptist, The Pocket Anabaptist, Fight the Powers, What Belongs to Caesar? Podcast and writing: Cantus Firmus Libertarian Christian Institute author page X: @CantusFirmusCC Podcast: Cantus Firmus Website: cantus-firmus.com Bad Roman Episodes with Cody Cook: EP 89 God's Country or Jesus’s Kingdom? Navigating the Nexus of Nationalism and Faith in America EP 99 Navigating Revivals in Christianity with Cody Cook EP 128 The Anabaptist Way: Rediscovering Radical Christianity with Cody Cook   Listen & Reflect Listen: For the way Cody widens the frame of Galatians, not into a narrow debate about law and grace alone, but into a deeper conversation about rescue, slavery, the powers, and new creation. Reflect: Where have we reduced the gospel to being declared right while resisting the deeper change Christ brings? Where have nationalism, tribe, or political identity competed with our belonging to Jesus? Read: Galatians 1:3–4, Galatians 4:1–11, Luke 10:25–37, and Philippians 3:20. Pay attention to what Scripture says about rescue, adoption, spiritual slavery, neighbor-love, and the citizenship that belongs to heaven. Practice: This week, take one identity you hold tightly—political, national, tribal, or religious—and ask whether it has been shaped more by the present age than by the Kingdom of Christ. Key Moments: (0:00) Can law make us right, or only Christ? (1:26) Why Cody wrote this book (4:13) Different ways people read Paul (9:27) Courtroom, table, and battle (15:08)“We wanna be declared right” (20:23)Why Galatians 4 matters (34:13) Ordo amoris, J.D. Vance, and nation-first love (57:48)Athanasius, incarnation, and the defeat of evil (1:01:23) Christians, weapons, and the words of Jesus (1:06:16) Where to learn more   Consider Supporting the Show 💕 Want more episodes that keep our loyalty with Jesus, not power? 💕 Support the show at thebadroman.com/donate. Every gift helps, and everything beyond production costs goes to local charities in Memphis, Tennessee. 🌶️ SALSA THE LOVE 🌶️ Want to support the project in a tastier way? Grab Bad Roman Salsa at badromansalsa.com. Every jar helps fund more No King but Christ conversations and keeps this work independent. Want to support the project another way? Share this episode with a friend and ask: Have I reduced the gospel to being right, instead of letting Jesus make me new?   🔗 Ways to Get Involved in the Project 🔗 Blog submissions: thebadroman.com/contribute-to-the-blog Connect with us on social: thebadroman.com/social-links Want to get more involved? Request to join the private discussion group on Facebook (Bad Romans Only!!) Explore the No King but Christ Network: nokingbutchristnetwork.com

    1h 8m
  4. Apr 9

    Conservative Politics vs. Bible Politics with Jordan Grant

    Jordan Grant joins Craig for a conversation about conservative Christianity, political deconstruction, Christian nationalism, and the long process of questioning power. What begins as a story about talk radio, Republican politics, and growing up inside a conservative Christian world becomes something deeper: a reflection on authority, coercion, medical culture, and what happens when the teachings of Jesus start pulling us away from the systems we once trusted. This episode traces Jordan’s shift from political certainty to a more honest struggle with faith, power, and the kind of allegiance that belongs to Christ alone. They Explore: conservative Christianity and political identity political deconstruction and questioning authority Christian nationalism and the pull of power talk radio, media formation, and partisan loyalty medicine, expertise, and institutional trust why coercion conflicts with the way of Jesus following Christ beyond left-right politics 📖 For Full Show Notes: thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-157   Listen & Reflect Listen: Listen for the way Jordan describes his political awakening, not as a trend or rebrand, but as a slow unraveling of conservative politics, Christian nationalism, and trust in authority. Reflect: Where have our political beliefs been shaped more by media, fear, or tribal loyalty than by the teachings of Jesus? Where have we confused conservative Christianity with faithful discipleship? Read: Matthew 20:25–28, 1 Samuel 8, Psalm 146, and Romans 12. Pay attention to what Scripture says about rulers, power, coercion, and the way God’s people are called to live. Practice: This week, take one belief you hold about politics, government, or authority and test it with a simple question: Does this reflect the way of Jesus, or does it rely on the kind of power He warned us not to trust? Key Moments: (0:00) Jordan Grant joins the show (4:35) Jordan’s background: Texas, finance, medicine, and faith (8:38) 9/11, Bush-era politics, and the conservative script (10:46) Talk radio formation and becoming a “cage-stage conservative” (13:25) Younger people, military disillusionment, and questioning authority (17:53) Medicine, the state, and forced trust (18:28) Medical school and the authoritarian mindset (19:30) Authoritarian systems inside modern medicine (26:43) COVID, church shutdowns, and Christian compliance (28:37) Reformed theology, Romans 13, and civil magistrate thinking (40:14) Ron Paul, conviction, and the church’s blind spots (57:47) Wrestling with Scripture, certainty, and honest questions (1:04:48) “Not so among you” (1:05:48) Practical advice for fence-sitters (1:08:20) Christians should be thinkers   Support the Show 💕 Want more episodes that keep our loyalty with Jesus, not power? 💕 Support the show at thebadroman.com/donate. Every gift helps, and everything beyond production costs goes to local charities in Memphis, Tennessee. 🌶️ SALSA THE LOVE 🌶️ Want to support the project in a tastier way? Grab Bad Roman Salsa at badromansalsa.com. Every jar helps fund more No King but Christ conversations and keeps this work independent. Want to support the project another way? Share this episode with a friend and ask: Have my politics shaped the way I read Jesus more than Jesus has shaped the way I see politics?   🔗 Ways to Get Involved in the Project 🔗 Blog submissions: thebadroman.com/contribute-to-the-blog Connect with us on social: thebadroman.com/social-links Want to get more involved? Request to join the private discussion group on Facebook (Bad Romans Only!!) Explore the No King but Christ Network: nokingbutchristnetwork.com

    1h 14m
  5. Mar 26

    Freemasonry vs. Christianity: Hidden Altars of Government with Scipio Eruditus

    Not everything that competes with Jesus looks dark at first. Sometimes it looks polished, powerful, and close enough to the truth that people stop asking questions. In this episode, Craig and Scipio Eruditus explore Freemasonry, Christianity, and government, tracing both the bigger history and Scipio’s personal path from Afghanistan war veteran to active critic of the powers he once believed were worth defending. What unfolds is a conversation about secrecy, loyalty, and whether followers of Jesus are being formed by Christ or by a world that teaches us to trust what happens behind closed doors.  They Explore: government and spiritual formation Freemasonry: secrecy, symbols, and hidden loyalty why power feels safer than trust the Christian pull toward influence truth in the open vs control in the dark allegiance to Jesus above every system 📖 For Full Show Notes: thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-157 🤝Connect with Scipio: Substack: Dispatches from Reality  YouTube: Dispatches From Reality @ScipioEruditus Podcast: Dispatches from Reality - Narrated (Spotify and Apple Podcasts) Listen & Reflect Listen: Listen for how early the episode contrasts the way of Jesus with systems built on secrecy, influence, and protected power. That contrast carries the whole conversation. Reflect: Where have we learned to trust what feels strong, connected, and in control more than what is honest, open, and faithful? Where have hidden loyalties shaped us without our noticing? Read: Read John 3:19–21, Matthew 5:14–16, Matthew 23:27–28, and 2 Corinthians 4:2. Sit with the difference between what lives in the light and what depends on the dark. Practice: This week, before defending any leader, movement, institution, or system, ask one question: Is this teaching me to walk in the light with Jesus, or to trust the kind of power that protects itself behind closed doors?   Key Moments: (0:00) Opening the question: Freemasonry, Christianity, and the state (1:15) Meeting Scipio Eruditus (2:12) War, patriotism, and the breaking of trust (5:16) Fraternities as a gateway into deeper questions (6:43) The initiation experience that shook him (8:28) Freemasonry and the making of the modern world (9:24) Patriotism losing its innocence (10:14) The “mystery” question (11:05) Secret societies and conspiracy against church and state (12:26) Ancient religion, Babylon, and Egypt (13:32) The unfinished pyramid and “the great work” (14:25) The oldest heresy returns Genesis 3  (18:04) Lower ranks, hidden knowledge, and the shield of charity (29:01) Why such a small group carries so much influence (30:30) The Morgan Affair (31:46) Political dominion and suppression of scandal (49:09) Symbols on the currency (50:39) Allegiance, Lucifer, and false light (53:17) “Further light in masonry” (58:58) Is Freemasonry still driving government today? (59:17) Can Christians make government righteous? (1:12:20) Where to find Scipio’s work   Support the Show 💕 Want more episodes that keep our loyalty with Jesus, not power? 💕 Support the show at thebadroman.com/donate. Every gift helps, and everything beyond production costs goes to local charities in Memphis, Tennessee. 🌶️ SALSA THE LOVE 🌶️ Want to support the project in a tastier way? Grab Bad Roman Salsa at badromansalsa.com. Every jar helps fund more No King but Christ conversations and keeps this work independent. Want to support the project another way? Share this episode with a friend and ask: Am I trusting the open way of Jesus, or am I still drawn to the kind of power that hides behind closed doors?   🔗 Stay Connected with the Project 🔗 Blog submissions: thebadroman.com/contribute-to-the-blog Connect with us on social: thebadroman.com/social-links Want to get more involved? Request to join the private discussion group on Facebook (Bad Romans Only!!) Explore the No King but Christ Network: nokingbutchristnetwork.com

    1h 15m
  6. Mar 12

    Are Rights from God or Government? with Cal Robbins

    What if the freedom we defend is really just control in disguise? In this episode, Craig and Cal Robbins dig into rightful liberty, the idea that true freedom comes from God and must honor the equal rights of others. From Thomas Jefferson to Galatians 5, they explore the difference between liberty and license, why legal does not always mean moral, and what it means to say No King but Christ in a world shaped by fear, borders, voting, and state power. This is a sharp, Christ-centered conversation about free will, neighbor love, and the lies we tell when we trust Caesar more than Jesus. In this episode: Rightful liberty and the equal rights of others Freedom, free will, and the teachings of Jesus Why legal does not always mean moral Slavery, immigration, voting, and Christian witness “Render unto Caesar” and what belongs to God alone   📖 For Full Show Notes: thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-156 Connect with Cal Robbins Republic Broadcasting Michael Gaddy’s Substack Listen & Reflect Listen for how early the episode defines rightful liberty. Everything else builds from that one distinction. Reflect: Where do we call something freedom when we really mean control? Where do we demand rights for ourselves that we deny to others? Read: Galatians 5:1, Matthew 22:15–22, and 1 Samuel 8. Then hold them next to Jefferson’s definition of rightful liberty and sit with the tension. Practice: Before you defend any law, policy, border, or political habit this week, ask one question: does this honor the equal rights of others, or violate them?   Key Moments & Starting Points: 0:00 Rightful Liberty 1:04 Safety Over Freedom 2:20 Cal’s Liberty Journey 3:45 Jefferson’s Definition 6:21 Equal Rights Of Others 8:24 Freedom Vs. Liberty 9:27 Sympathy And Empathy 11:12 Rightful Liberty And Christ 12:50 Freedom In Christ 14:20 Slavery And Immigration 15:12 Rejecting God’s Gift 16:45 Image Of God 17:30 Slavery Never Really Left 18:25 Voting And Coercion 20:00 Render Unto Caesar 22:45 War And Repentance 24:07 Unconditional Love 25:15 Broken Christian Witness 27:20 One Human Family 30:24 The Golden Rule 31:30 Rendering To Caesar What Is God’s 34:00 Jesus Rejected The Kingdoms 35:30 Why The World Rejects Us 37:15 Hate Cannot Heal 41:20 No King But Christ 43:00 Asking For A King 44:05 What Jesus Never Did 45:30 The Temptation Of Power 47:00 Rights Come From God 49:45 Proper Exercise Of Liberty 53:45 Don’t Hurt People 54:57 The Full Jefferson Quote 56:30 Patrick Henry and the Anti-Federalists 57:42 Forensic History 58:40Learn The Real History   🔗 Ways to Get Involved in the Project 🔗 Blog submissions: thebadroman.com/contribute-to-the-blog Connect with us on social: thebadroman.com/social-links Want to get more involved? Request to join the private discussion group on Facebook (Bad Romans Only!!) Explore the No King but Christ Network: nokingbutchristnetwork.com

    1h 3m
  7. Mar 12

    Is the President Barabbas? with Paul Lazzaroni

    Is Trump Barabbas? In this episode, Craig sits down with Paul Lazzaroni (Crossing Cornerstone / No King but Christ Network) to talk about the Barabbas mindset, our craving for a strongman savior, political control, and “winning,” even when it contradicts Jesus’ way. We explore modern Babylon, the wilderness formation of God’s people, and why “Jesus is Lord” can’t be a slogan that still needs Caesar’s power to do the work. Topics covered Barabbas vs. Jesus: what kind of “savior” we want Christian nationalism and the temptation of state power Strongman politics and fear-based faith“Modern Babylon” as a pattern (empire thinking) Exodus / wilderness formation and slavery mindsetReading the Bible without using it to justify domination “No King but Christ” as lived discipleship 🤝 Connect with Paul Lazzaroni 🤝 Cross and Cornerstone (Website / Blog + Articles) C&C Facebook Page No King but Christ Network (Paul’s work is featured there): nokingbutchristnetwork.com Paul’s Personal Pages Instagram Facebook YouTube TikTok   Try This Week: Notice where you assume force is necessary. Pause before reaching for control. Choose persuasion, presence, and honesty in one real situation, and see what it reveals about what you trust.   📖 For Full Show Notes: thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-155   Key Moments & Starting Points: (0:00) Jesus or Caesar? (0:45) Meet Paul Lazzaroni (1:27) “Is Trump Barabbas?” (2:20) The Barabbas Mindset (8:36) Why Paul Doesn’t Vote (17:57) Wilderness First (47:30) Modern Babylon (47:57) Mindsets and Mimic Kingdoms (53:33) What Is Cross and Cornerstone? (55:32) Why “Cornerstone”? (57:16) Writing, Learning, Humility   💕 Want more episodes that keep loyalty with Jesus, not power? 💕 Support the show at thebadroman.com/donate. Anything helps—and everything beyond production costs goes to local charities in Memphis, TN.   🌶️ SALSA THE LOVE 🌶️ Prefer tasty support? Grab Bad Roman Salsa at badromansalsa.com. Every jar fuels more No King but Christ conversations and keeps this work independent.   Want to the support the project in another way? Share & Start a Conversation Send this episode to a friend and ask: Am I trusting Jesus’ cross-shaped way… or trusting force to hold it all together?   Listen slowly. Love boldly. No King but Christ.   🔗 Ways to Get Involved in the Project 🔗 Blog submissions: thebadroman.com/contribute-to-the-blog Connect with us on social: thebadroman.com/social-links Want to get more involved? Request to join the private discussion group on Facebook (Bad Romans Only!!) Explore the No King but Christ Network: nokingbutchristnetwork.com

    1h 4m
  8. Feb 12

    Can a Voluntary Society Reflect Jesus? with Bob Murphy

    Christians often say “Jesus is King,” but live as if someone else has to keep order. Every system promises order. Few ever ask what that order costs. Craig sits down with economist Bob Murphy, author of Chaos Theory, to explore a disruptive question many Christians have never been invited to ask out loud: What if law, safety, and social order didn’t require rulers at all? This conversation isn’t about voting, parties, or political strategy. It’s about discipleship. Craig and Bob wrestle with fear, control, Christian politics, and the quiet assumption that force is necessary to hold a society together. They examine what a voluntary society might look like in real life—how cooperation could replace coercion, why consent matters more than compliance, and what changes when no one gets a special pass to use force “for the greater good.” Along the way, Craig keeps circling back to Jesus. If we wouldn’t threaten our neighbor to make things right, why do we trust systems built on threats? And what does it say about our faith when Christian nationalism feels more practical than the Sermon on the Mount? This episode gives listeners language for naming fear, tools for thinking beyond power, and space to ask a deeper question beneath the politics: Do we actually trust the way of Jesus to hold a people together? Their conversation digs into: Why “law and order” feels safe—and what it costs What a voluntary society actually means (and what it doesn’t) Contracts, incentives, insurance, and reputation as alternatives to force Why voting isn’t the same as consent Fear as a driving force behind Christian politics Christian nationalism as a discipleship problem, not just a political one A simple test: would this be okay if my neighbor did it? 🤝Connect with Bob Murphy: Read the Book: Chaos Theory (buy on Amazon), Chaos Theory (pdf) Bob’s other books: Contra Krugman: Smashing the Errors of America’s Most Famous Keynesian; Lessons for the Young Economist; Choice: Cooperation, Enterprise, and Human Action Bob’s Podcasts: Human Action Podcast and The Bob Murphy Show X (Twitter): @BobMurphyEcon Bob’s YouTube Channel: @BobMurphyAncap   Try This Week: Notice where you assume force is necessary. Pause before reaching for control. Choose persuasion, presence, and honesty in one real situation, and see what it reveals about what you trust.   📖 For Full Show Notes: www.thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-154   Key Moments: (00:00) Voluntary Society: “Wouldn’t That Be Chaos?” (00:45) Welcome Bob Murphy Craig’s intro + how they got connected (Dominic) Episodes with Dominic Judas the OG Christian Nationalist: Why Imposters Are Worse Than Opponents with Domenic Scarcella EP #147 Christianity Unpacked in "Good Neighbor, Bad Citizen" with Domenic Scarcella EP #97 (06:19) Why Bob Avoids the “Anarchist” Label (07:19) Sermon on the Mount + Politics That Fit Jesus (10:57) “I Don’t Have to Have a Plan” (11:33) Salsa Break: No King but Christ (12:14) Chaos Theory: Contracts (14:37) “Institutionalized Aggressor” + Imposed Rules (33:14) Insurance as Due Diligence (34:03) Incentives: Background Checks + Risk (46:57) “Give the Experts Guns” Problem (58:27) “Aren’t Insurance Companies the Government?” (1:03:24) Where to Find Bob + What He’s Building (1:04:22) Wrap-Up + Possible Part 2   💕 Want more episodes that keep loyalty with Jesus, not power? 💕 Support the show at thebadroman.com/donate. Anything helps, and everything beyond production costs goes to local charities in Memphis, TN. 🌶️ SALSA THE LOVE 🌶️ Prefer tasty support? Grab Bad Roman Salsa at badromansalsa.com. Every jar fuels more voluntary society centered conversations. FREE: Share & Start a Conversation Send this episode to a friend and ask: Do I trust Jesus’ way, or do I trust force to keep things together? Listen slowly. Love boldly. No King but Christ.   🔗 Ways to Get Involved in the Project 🔗 Blog submissions: thebadroman.com/contribute-to-the-blog Connect with us on social: thebadroman.com/social-links Want to get more involved? Request to join the private discussion group on Facebook (Bad Romans Only!!) Explore the No King but Christ Network: nokingbutchristnetwork.com

    1h 6m
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Are you a Christian who feels disillusioned by politics? Do you see political systems—whether democratic, authoritarian, or otherwise—promising change but often leaving you unfulfilled? As followers of Christ, our calling isn’t tied to any earthly power; it’s to live like Jesus, no matter the political landscape. On this podcast, we explore what it means to set aside man-made allegiances—be they national, partisan, or ideological—and instead take up the Cross. Host Craig Harguess, a former neoconservative Southern Baptist Republican turned pacifist and Christian Voluntaryist, delves into the complex relationship between faith and political power. Through conversations with everyday Christians, church leaders, and even non-Christians, we challenge the ways politics can distract us from God’s work. True change starts where we are—because when we live like Christ, the world around us shifts, regardless of who holds power. New episodes release bi-weekly. Learn more at www.thebadroman.com.

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