The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment Podcast

Hutch the Marine Investor and Dr. Heath Jones
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“Multifamily Real Estate Investing for the Career Professional.” Join Shelon "Hutch The Marine Investor" Hutchinson who talks to military veterans and real estate professionals about the results of their journey and multifamily real estate experiments. Each week, Hutch discusses Multifamily Real Estate Investing for Career Professionals and military veterans to help you build wealth and financial independence. Questions about Multifamily real estate investing are systematically dissected as your host works through observations and data to answer the week's question. 

  1. SEASON 3, EPISODE 127 TRAILER

    MFREE 127 Trailer # 2 with Will Harvey: Are You Building Wealth With Purpose or Just Motion?

    Aloha, It’s Shelon "Hutch" Hutchinson here! If you’re enjoying 'The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment' podcast, please like, comment, and share our episodes to help us reach and inspire more people. Thank you for your support! In this section of the podcast, Hutch brings Will Harvey III into the focus round — a faster, more personal part of the conversation where the answers go beyond just real estate. Will talks about family, faith, sobriety, storytelling, diversification, and what success looks like today. One of the biggest takeaways is that success is not only about analyzing deals or finding the next opportunity. It is also about being present with your family, knowing what matters, and using your skills with purpose. 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 The conversation also touches on how investors think about diversification. Will challenges the idea that being spread across things you do not understand is always smart. Sometimes discipline means being patient, doing the research, and waiting for the right opportunity instead of chasing every option in front of you. For Hutch, that connects back to a bigger principle: opportunities are always around, but not all of them deserve your attention or your capital. Clarity helps you align your money, your time, and your decisions with the life you are actually trying to build. 🧠🏢 #InvestorMindset #LeadershipMindset #RealEstateInvesting *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Thank you to all of our listeners!!! We would love to hear from you!!! Email me at: hutch@hsquaredcapital.com *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Visit our website to find out more: www.hsquaredcapital.com Join our Facebook Group: The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment Follow us on Instagram: @hutchthemarineinvestor

    1 min

  2. SEASON 3, EPISODE 127 TRAILER

    MFREE 127 Trailer # 1 with Will Harvey: Can the Right Buy Protect You From the Wrong Market?

    Aloha, It’s Shelon "Hutch" Hutchinson here! If you’re enjoying 'The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment' podcast, please like, comment, and share our episodes to help us reach and inspire more people. Thank you for your support! “You make money when you buy, not when you sell.” 💰 In this episode, Hutch asks Will Harvey III about the quote or mantra that guides the way he makes decisions in real estate. Will’s answer points to one of the most important lessons in investing: the price you pay matters. When you buy with discipline, you create a margin of safety. That margin can help protect you when the market shifts, repair costs run higher than expected, contractors miss the mark, or the deal does not go exactly according to plan. 🧠 Will shares that even during his house-flipping days, the main focus was buying right. They made mistakes in other areas, but because they stayed disciplined on the purchase, they were able to protect the deal. That is a leadership lesson too. You do not win by chasing every opportunity. You win by making clear decisions before pressure shows up. Disciplined investors protect the downside first, then let the upside take care of itself. 🎯 #RealEstateInvesting #InvestorMindset #PassiveInvesting *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Thank you to all of our listeners!!! We would love to hear from you!!! Email me at: hutch@hsquaredcapital.com *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Visit our website to find out more: www.hsquaredcapital.com Join our Facebook Group: The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment Follow us on Instagram: @hutchthemarineinvestor

    1 min

  3. MAY 2

    MFREE 126 Full Episode with Ryan Gibson: Are You Reading the Flight Plan or Guessing the Destination?

    Aloha, It’s Shelon "Hutch" Hutchinson here! If you’re enjoying 'The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment' podcast, please like, comment, and share our episodes to help us reach and inspire more people. Thank you for your support! Host Shalon “Hutch” Hutchinson interviews Ryan, former commercial pilot and now CIO at Spartan Investment Group, on how elite investors think about risk using aviation principles like checklists and the ability to “set the parking brake” and walk away. Ryan describes transitioning from airline flying and single-family rentals to building a self-storage platform with about $1B in acquisitions and becoming the 29th largest operator, driven by better “ROI on life” and a desire to help high-income professionals invest passively. They discuss Spartan’s 700-item due diligence checklist, key passive-investor risks (especially supply/demand and debt), why projected high returns can underperform, and a diversification framework (10/30/30/30). Ryan explains managing downturns by renegotiating expenses, adding revenue streams, and using local “marketing energy,” plus technology and AI for extended hours, investor reporting, and AI call handling. 00:00 Elite Risk Mindset 01:19 Pilot Rule Buck Stops Here 02:53 Flying Bug and Family Trips 03:32 From Cockpit to Capital 06:13 Why Self Storage Clicked 07:37 ROI on Life Explained 10:56 Due Diligence Checklists 14:11 Passive Investor Risk Focus 17:51 Diversification 10 30 30 30 19:56 Concentration vs Diversified 22:10 Decisions Under Pressure 22:50 Cut Costs Backstage 24:29 Protect Frontstage Service 24:49 Scrappy New Revenue 25:09 Marketing Energy Playbook 26:24 Spartan Brand Origins 27:09 Values Driven Culture 28:34 Employee Ownership Model 30:47 Tech Enabled Operations 32:26 AI Reporting And Calls 34:27 Education People Action 35:51 Focus Round Rapid Fire 38:11 Communicate With LPs 39:29 Debt Risk Explained 40:33 Defining Success Today 41:34 Connect And Closing *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Thank you to all of our listeners!!! We would love to hear from you!!! Email me at: hutch@hsquaredcapital.com *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Visit our website to find out more: www.hsquaredcapital.com Join our Facebook Group: The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment Follow us on Instagram: @hutchthemarineinvestor

    43 min

  4. SEASON 3, EPISODE 126 TRAILER

    MFREE 126 Trailer # 5 with Ryan Gibson: Are You Buying Assets or Buying Responsibilities?

    Aloha, It’s Shelon "Hutch" Hutchinson here! If you’re enjoying 'The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment' podcast, please like, comment, and share our episodes to help us reach and inspire more people. Thank you for your support! A lot of people hear the word passive and think it means hands-off. But Ryan Gibson challenges that idea in this conversation. 🧠 In this episode Hutch and Ryan talk about the difference between owning real estate and truly investing passively. Ryan explains that even assets people often call “hands-off” can still require decisions, calls, capital, and mental energy. You may still have to manage the property manager. You may still have to make tough decisions. You may still have to step away from family time to handle the next issue. 📞 And at that point, the question becomes: Is this really passive, or did you just create another active responsibility? Hutch connects this back to something many investors eventually learn — it is not just about what an asset produces. It is also about what it requires from your life. ⏳ Time, energy, attention, risk, and family bandwidth all matter. This part of the conversation is a reminder to look beyond the surface and ask better questions before choosing an investment path. Because ownership should be intentional. And your strategy should support the life you are trying to build — not quietly pull you away from it. 🏢💭 #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateInvesting #InvestorMindset *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Thank you to all of our listeners!!! We would love to hear from you!!! Email me at: hutch@hsquaredcapital.com *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Visit our website to find out more: www.hsquaredcapital.com Join our Facebook Group: The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment Follow us on Instagram: @hutchthemarineinvestor

    1 min

  5. SEASON 3, EPISODE 126 TRAILER

    MFREE 126 Trailer # 4 with Ryan Gibson: Could Better Operations Create Better Results?

    Aloha, It’s Shelon "Hutch" Hutchinson here! If you’re enjoying 'The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment' podcast, please like, comment, and share our episodes to help us reach and inspire more people. Thank you for your support! One of the biggest lessons from this part of the conversation is simple: Not every “fixed” expense is truly fixed. 💭 In this episode Hutch and Ryan Gibson talk about the importance of looking deeper into the operating side of a business or real estate asset. Ryan explains that customers may never notice certain backend changes — like renegotiating vendor contracts, changing utility payment systems, adjusting treasury platforms, or finding savings inside the profit and loss statement. 🧾 But those small operational decisions can still matter. The key is not to cut corners. It is to communicate professionally, work openly with vendors, and ask better questions. 🤝 Can this contract be reviewed? Can this expense be renegotiated? Can this process be improved without affecting the customer experience? That is where leadership shows up. Not always in the big flashy moves, but in the disciplined review of what most people ignore. 🔍 Ryan’s point is a strong reminder for operators, business owners, and investors: There may be room to improve performance without making the customer feel the difference. Sometimes the opportunity is not in doing more. Sometimes it is in managing better. 🏢 #AssetManagement #RealEstateInvesting #BusinessLeadership *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Thank you to all of our listeners!!! We would love to hear from you!!! Email me at: hutch@hsquaredcapital.com *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Visit our website to find out more: www.hsquaredcapital.com Join our Facebook Group: The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment Follow us on Instagram: @hutchthemarineinvestor

    1 min

  6. SEASON 3, EPISODE 126 TRAILER

    MFREE 126 Trailer # 3 with Ryan Gibson: Are You Building Wealth or Just Building Another Job?

    Aloha, It’s Shelon "Hutch" Hutchinson here! If you’re enjoying 'The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment' podcast, please like, comment, and share our episodes to help us reach and inspire more people. Thank you for your support! Real estate can create income while you are awake, asleep, present, or somewhere else entirely. 🏡💭 That idea is what first attracted Ryan Gibson to real estate. In this episode Ryan shares how he started by doing what many people believe they are “supposed” to do — buying single-family homes. And the deals were working. They produced income. They added real estate exposure. But over time, Ryan realized something important: The return on his life was not where it needed to be. ⏳ Between chasing property managers, finding new properties, and managing the moving pieces, the time commitment started to outweigh the benefit — especially as a high-income professional still actively flying. That realization shaped a bigger mission. ✈️ Ryan saw that many pilots and high-income professionals wanted real estate in their portfolio, but did not want the workload that often came with owning properties directly. So he became passionate about helping investors access real estate more passively, supported by due diligence and execution. 🧠 This conversation is a reminder that the goal is not just to make money. It is to build a life where your investments serve your time, your family, and your future — not the other way around. 🌱 #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateInvesting #FinancialFreedom *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Thank you to all of our listeners!!! We would love to hear from you!!! Email me at: hutch@hsquaredcapital.com *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Visit our website to find out more: www.hsquaredcapital.com Join our Facebook Group: The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment Follow us on Instagram: @hutchthemarineinvestor

    1 min

  7. SEASON 3, EPISODE 126 TRAILER

    MFREE 126 Trailer # 1 with Ryan Gibson: When Should a Leader Set the Parking Brake?

    Aloha, It’s Shelon "Hutch" Hutchinson here! If you’re enjoying 'The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment' podcast, please like, comment, and share our episodes to help us reach and inspire more people. Thank you for your support! You don’t have to take off if something doesn’t feel right. ✈️ In this episode Hutch sits down with Ryan Gibson to talk about a lesson from aviation that still shapes how Ryan makes business and investment decisions today. As a pilot, Ryan learned that the responsibility ultimately falls on the person in command. Before accepting an aircraft or taking passengers into the sky, he had to be fully comfortable with the condition, the process, and the decision. That same mindset applies to leadership, business, and investing. 💭 Sometimes discipline means moving forward. Other times, discipline means setting the parking brake, asking better questions, and choosing not to do the deal. 🛑 Ryan’s reminder is simple but powerful: There will always be another flight. There may also be another opportunity. But protecting trust, safety, and long-term judgment must come first. That is a mindset every investor, leader, and decision-maker can learn from. 🧭 #LeadershipMindset #PassiveInvesting #MultifamilyRealEstate *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Thank you to all of our listeners!!! We would love to hear from you!!! Email me at: hutch@hsquaredcapital.com *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Visit our website to find out more: www.hsquaredcapital.com Join our Facebook Group: The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment Follow us on Instagram: @hutchthemarineinvestor

    1 min

  8. SEASON 3, EPISODE 126 TRAILER

    MFREE 126 Trailer # 2 with Ryan Gibson: What Does Real Self-Reflection Look Like in Leadership?

    Aloha, It’s Shelon "Hutch" Hutchinson here! If you’re enjoying 'The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment' podcast, please like, comment, and share our episodes to help us reach and inspire more people. Thank you for your support! Adrenaline may get your attention… …but discipline, people, and communication shape the direction you actually go. ✈️💭 In this episode Hutch continues the conversation with Ryan Gibson about life after the airlines, the people who influence your growth, and the risks investors should understand more clearly. Ryan shares how backcountry flying gives him a new kind of excitement — landing on dirt strips, mountain strips, and places most people cannot drive to. But the deeper lesson comes when he talks about trajectory. 🚀 It is not always one big opportunity that changes everything. Sometimes it is self-reflection. Sometimes it is being around people who encourage you. Sometimes it is learning how you are showing up before blaming others for doubting you. 🪞 Ryan also brings that same level of honesty into investing. He explains why communication, transparency, and availability matter when people are trusting you with their capital. And when it comes to risk in real estate, his answer is clear: Debt is often misunderstood. 🏢 Loan terms, covenants, interest rates, and lender control can all shape the risk inside a deal. This conversation is a reminder that strong leadership is not just about chasing excitement. It is about staying grounded, communicating clearly, and understanding the responsibilities that come with every decision. #LeadershipMindset #RealEstateInvesting #PassiveInvesting *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Thank you to all of our listeners!!! We would love to hear from you!!! Email me at: hutch@hsquaredcapital.com *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Visit our website to find out more: www.hsquaredcapital.com Join our Facebook Group: The Multifamily Real Estate Experiment Follow us on Instagram: @hutchthemarineinvestor

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“Multifamily Real Estate Investing for the Career Professional.” Join Shelon "Hutch The Marine Investor" Hutchinson who talks to military veterans and real estate professionals about the results of their journey and multifamily real estate experiments. Each week, Hutch discusses Multifamily Real Estate Investing for Career Professionals and military veterans to help you build wealth and financial independence. Questions about Multifamily real estate investing are systematically dissected as your host works through observations and data to answer the week's question. 

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