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The realities of working in design.
A weekly conversation with Richard Baird and Craig Burgess, two British graphic designers.

That's The Job Richard Baird and Craig Burgess

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The realities of working in design.
A weekly conversation with Richard Baird and Craig Burgess, two British graphic designers.

    Twitter, Experience and Instinct

    Twitter, Experience and Instinct

    In our final episode of this season, we discuss a broad range of topics from succeeding on Twitter, understanding how experience impacts our careers and how to leverage instinct.
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    Rich Baird
    Web: https://bpando.org/
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    Craig Burgess
    Web: https://getdoingthings.com
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/craigburgess
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    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBoobSPKTPGviy41A6vBc6w

    • 1 hr 4 min
    Trends & Crisis

    Trends & Crisis

    This week Rich and Craig talk about trends and how they both serve and hinder the design industry.
    Inevitably, they finally mention coronavirus (with a design twist).
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    0:01 - Trends.
    6:19 - 10% new.
    8:42 - The desperate need to be original.
    12:49 - It's good enough and learning when to stop.
    15:02 - Branding is now iterative.
    19:14 - Where we finally talk about coronavirus (in a design context).
    24:08 - The design and culture of a crisis.
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    Rich Baird
    Web: https://bpando.org/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/RichBaird
    BP&O Twitter: https://twitter.com/bpandopinion
    BP&O Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bpandopinion/
    Logo Archive Twitter: https://twitter.com/logoarchive
    Logo Archive Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/logoarchive/
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    Craig Burgess
    Web: https://getdoingthings.com
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/craigburgess
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/craigburgess
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBoobSPKTPGviy41A6vBc6w

    • 36 min
    The next thing, secrets and how we sell

    The next thing, secrets and how we sell

    We decided to go off-script this week and covered a variety of subjects such as promotion, how to find the next thing, design secrets and selling and talking about design.
    0:16 - A British sense of promotion.
    5:51 - Becoming known for being known.
    9:19 - What’s the next thing?
    12:36 - Spend time to improve your craft before you promote yourself
    18:55 - There are no secrets.
    30:12 - How we sell and talk about design.
    CONNECT WITH ME:
    Web: https://getdoingthings.com/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/craigburgess
    Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/craigburgess
    Podcast: https://getdoingthings.com/podcast
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    • 41 min
    Starting out as a freelancer. Part Two.

    Starting out as a freelancer. Part Two.

    A few weeks ago we covered how to get started as a freelancer. This week we’re returning to the topic.
    00:11 - Qualifying a lead
    02:06 - Explain what they’re getting.
    04:55 - Saying no to things (red flags).
    10:01 - Setting expectations with clients.
    14:23 - Red flags. Part Two.
    16:43 - Writing proposals and winning work.
    24:31 - Explain your design work to a client.
    27:09 - Getting things wrong.
    30:34 - Red flags. Part three.
    31:11 - Do you get nervous when you present work?
    37:34 - Don't send angry emails.
    44:30 - Stepping away from projects.
    49:57 - The one piece of advice for getting started as a freelancer.
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    Rich Baird
    Web: https://bpando.org/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/RichBaird
    BP&O Twitter: https://twitter.com/bpandopinion
    BP&O Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bpandopinion/
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    Craig Burgess
    Web: https://getdoingthings.com
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/craigburgess
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/craigburgess
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBoobSPKTPGviy41A6vBc6w

    • 51 min
    Creative Process.

    Creative Process.

    This week Rich and Craig are joined by Adam Sandler (no, not that one) to discuss creative process.
    Where to find Adam Sandler online
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/NotTheFamous0ne
    Web: http://asgd.co/
    0:54 - Intro to Adam Sandler (no, not THAT one).
    1:50 - The pressure to productise.
    6:05 - Designing for fun or for money?
    9:33 - Providing your design work for free to promote yourself. 
    12:26 - Making design for in your style for clients.
    14:10 - To Adam: what's the aspiration for your work?
    16:46 - How close to getting Tame Impala are you?
    18:01 - How much does nostalgia feature in your work?
    21:12 - The line between design and art
    25:41 - How restraint boosts ideas.
    27:12 - How to improve your creative process.
    31:13 - Helping other designers
    33:29 - Becoming an "authority".
    36:33 - Do follower numbers matter?
    41:37 - Social is easier to achieve than getting featured in magazines.
    44:54 - Can you be an artist and a designer?
    50:37 - Creating a challenge to help you improve as a designer.
    52:15 - Adam Sandler creates a piece of 180 second art. Live.

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Starting out as a freelancer.

    Starting out as a freelancer.

    Richard and Craig discuss how to start out as a freelancer.
    CONTENTS
    0:43 - The fundamentals of starting out as a freelancer
    1:50 - Craig's experience of starting out as a freelancer
    3:33 - The freelancer business basics.
    6:10 - Feast or famine: how to deal with it as a freelancer
    8:14 - Build a recurring income as soon as you can.
    10:14 - How can you provide a retainer?
    12:47 - Keep in touch with previous clients.
    13:18 - Maintain the quality of your product with retainers.
    16:04 - Producing passive income.
    18:10 - Producing passive income by selling assets.
    22:25 - Legitimate alternatives to Adobe Creative Cloud.
    23:02 - Say yes more.
    31:32 - Before you start: network and build connections where you can.
    33:38 - How Richard got started with promotion.
    35:00 - Likes don't mean clients.
    38:33 - Deposits. Deposits. Deposits.
    43:54 - Setting up contracts and terms of business.


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    Podcast https://thats-the-job.captivate.fm/


    Rich Baird
    Web: https://bpando.org/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/RichBaird
    BP&O Twitter: https://twitter.com/bpandopinion
    BP&O Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bpandopinion/
    Logo Archive Twitter: https://twitter.com/logoarchive
    Logo Archive Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/logoarchive/
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    Craig Burgess
    Web: https://getdoingthings.com
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/craigburgess
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/craigburgess
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBoobSPKTPGviy41A6vBc6w

    • 49 min

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