Public Figure Society

Torund Bryhn

Welcome to The Public Figure Society, the podcast exploring leadership, influence, and authenticity in the age of AI. We've all been promoted to public figures. AI has taken over 90% of our tasks, thrusting us into leadership whether we're ready or not. The gatekeepers are gone. We are now the architects of our lives and the changemakers of society. But with this promotion comes responsibility: How do we lead ourselves? How do we get discovered and build our presence? And when AI handles everything else, what do we do with what's left? How do we stay authentically human? This podcast explores these questions through conversations with leaders, innovators, and everyday people who are navigating this shift. We'll profile those doing it well, bring in experts to share their strategies, and uncover what it means to thrive as a public figure in this new age. Each episode focuses on: Leadership What does it mean to lead when AI is your taskmaster? How do we shift from following to leading ourselves? Influence How do you get discovered? How do you build your presence and share your gifts with the world? The strategies that worked for celebrities now work for everyone. Authenticity If AI takes over 90% of our tasks, what do we do with the remaining 10%? This is where we become fully human. What matters most to you? What do you want to create, explore, contribute? Join us as we explore the changing role of the public figure, master the art of influence, and discover how to stay human in the age of AI. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. The DNA of a Powerful Brand

    07/04/2025

    The DNA of a Powerful Brand

    Patrick Hanlon is back and we dive into the DNA of brand. Even with the rise of AI and the changes happening in culture, the foundation remains the same. The DNA is branding. We explore the elements behind belief, community, and identity, and how they apply to both personal and business brands. We talk about what AI can and cannot do when it comes to storytelling, and why building real connection is still the core of any lasting brand. If you are navigating influence or trying to create momentum in a noisy world, this is your map. Key TakeawaysPrimal Branding is about building belief, not just visibilityThe seven elements of the Primal Code create long-term brand valueStorytelling is how humans connect and rememberPersonal branding starts with a strong, unique narrativeAI can support your brand strategy but cannot replace human creativityBuilding a community creates more momentum than building a personal brand aloneA clear creation story is essential to attract the right audiencePerformance marketing drives attention, but brand building drives loyaltyPeople want something to believe in, not just a productIt takes courage and consistency to lead a movement Chapters00:00 Introduction to Primal Branding 07:43 Personal Branding as Identity 14:59 The Role of AI in Modern Branding 24:01 Storytelling as a Competitive Advantage 30:14 Navigating Performance Marketing and Brand Building 36:05 Why Preference Drives Growth 38:49 The Creation Story and Its Impact 42:24 Why Community Beats Personal Branding 46:06 The Second Follower and Building Belief 52:35 Patrick's Journey to the Primal Code 59:39 The Future of Branding in the Age of AI Patrick Hanlon is the founder and CEO of Primal Branding, a strategic brand consultancy built around the breakthrough framework introduced in his book Primal Branding—a modern classic that’s become required reading at YouTube and a go-to playbook for marketers worldwide. Hanlon’s core belief: brands are belief systems. In today’s world, where audiences are burned out on interruption and hype, Primal Branding offers a clear blueprint for building communities through story, meaning, and shared identity—not just pushing messages through a megaphone. His work bridges the gap between digital, social, and traditional marketing, providing the unifying theory behind content that connects and spreads. Over the years, Patrick and his team have launched new ventures and re-engineered iconic brands across the globe. His client list includes Levi's, PepsiCo, Shopify, Fossil, Experian, PayPal, Yum!, Kraft, Bungie, Time Warner Cable, GOOD/Upworthy, Brave Software, and The United Nations. A frequent keynote speaker and thought leader, Patrick has spoken at TEDx, IDEO, NYU, Parsons, the American Marketing Association, and more. His insights have been featured in Fast Company, Forbes, BusinessWeek Online, Inc., Entrepreneur, and NPR, and he has appeared on CNBC, Fox Business, and as a subject matter expert on branding in the documentary series The Kennedy Files. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-hanlon-primalbranding/ Website: https://www.primalbranding.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    55 min
  2. Blue-Collar Millionaires: The Great Skill Inversion

    06/26/2025

    Blue-Collar Millionaires: The Great Skill Inversion

    This week, I had the privilege of interviewing Neal Hanlon, my mentor, friend, and futurist, about the rapid evolution of AI and what it means for the future of work. Together, we dug into how AI has reshaped white-collar jobs since 2013 and why blue-collar skill sets will only become more valuable as automation continues to advance. Neal and I explored the mindset shifts that leaders and professionals will need to make to thrive in an AI-driven economy, from embracing creativity and strategic thinking to cultivating self-leadership and adaptability. We also discussed the critical role of policy and education in preparing for this transition, recognizing that policy must catch up with the pace of innovation. This is a bold, future-focused conversation that urges listeners to embrace continuous reinvention, leverage AI as a productivity partner, and recognize that hands-on expertise will shape the next generation of wealth and influence. Key Takeaways The Creativity Premium In a world where AI handles execution, the golden ticket belongs to those who can dream up what needs executing. Strategic thinking and creative problem solving become the ultimate differentiators.White Collar Extinction Event Entire industries built on processing information are about to discover they're competing against machines that never sleep, never err, and cost pennies per hour.Leverage or Perish AI isn't replacing humans. It's replacing humans who don't use AI. The winners will be those who turn these tools into productivity superpowers, not those who pretend they don't exist.Self Leadership Revolution Nobody's coming to save your career. The new economy rewards those who take radical ownership of their skill evolution and stop waiting for permission to reinvent themselves.The Blue Collar Gold Rush Physical skills are about to become digital gold. When robots can write code but can't fix your plumbing, guess who's laughing all the way to the bank? Chapters 00:00 The Evolution of AI: A Journey from 2013 to Now 07:16 The Impact of AI on White-Collar Jobs 14:09 Reinventing Skills in the Age of AI 21:55 Becoming Indispensable: The Human Element in AI 30:40 The Business Case for AI: Time and Efficiency 37:33 Government’s Role in the AI Revolution 44:30 The Future of Work: Blue-Collar Millionaires Neal Conlon is a visionary strategist, entrepreneur, and technologist who has spent his career at the forefront of business innovation and leadership. With deep expertise spanning AI, emerging technologies, and systems thinking, Neal is known for his practical insight into how organizations and individuals can adapt to rapid change. A trusted advisor and mentor to founders, executives, and creators, he is passionate about empowering people to embrace new ideas, navigate disruption, and build lasting value in a shifting landscape. Whether delivering keynote talks, guiding companies through transformation, or sharing his knowledge on podcasts, Neal brings a unique blend of big-picture thinking and hands-on experience. His work centers on future-proofing careers and businesses by fostering self-leadership, innovation, and human-centered approaches in the age of automation. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nealconlon/ Website: www.nealconlon.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    48 min
  3. AI or Die: The Collapse of White-Collar Work and Rise of Digital Companions

    06/19/2025

    AI or Die: The Collapse of White-Collar Work and Rise of Digital Companions

    In this episode, I sit down with Matthew Burkett, co-founder and director at Ceop Pro AI—an AI-powered executive operating platform that delivers strategic insights in just 48 hours, ten times faster and at a fraction of the cost of traditional consulting. With over 30 years of leadership and innovation experience, Matt is passionate about making AI-powered decision-making accessible to every business leader. We talk about how AI isn't just changing the way we work—it's rewriting the rules of society. We explore how AI is transforming business intelligence, becoming a powerful assistant, and even evolving into something more personal: a companion, a mentor, maybe even something spiritual. We unpack what this means for the collapse of white-collar roles, the future of education, and how to stay relevant in a world that's automating everything except meaning. This isn't a trend—it's a turning point. Key Takeaways: AI is cutting the time and cost of business reporting dramaticallyExecutives are using AI to automate high-level tasks and strategic decisionsAI can now match our communication style and learn our unique toneWe're seeing AI shift from being a tool to becoming a trusted partnerThere's a real conversation happening about trust and belief in AI systemsWhite-collar work as we know it is being automated out of existenceEducation is next unless it transforms to meet this momentPersonal productivity and growth are now accelerated exponentially by AIThose who master AI tools will dominate the next job marketThis moment belongs to people who move fast and stay sharp Chapters: 00:00 Revolutionizing Business Intelligence with AI 12:05 AI as a Companion and Mentor 20:08 The Impact of AI on Employment and Society 29:53 The Future of AI and Human Integration Matthew Burkett is Director at CEOPRO.ai, where they're revolutionizing business intelligence with AI. Their platform delivers strategic insights in just 48 hours, 10x faster and at 1/10th the cost of traditional consulting. With over 30 years of experience in leadership and innovation, Matt is passionate about making AI powered decision making accessible to every business leader. Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattburkett/ Website: https://www.ceopro.ai/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    46 min
  4. 60 Pounds Lost, Business Transformed: The Power of Authentic AI

    06/12/2025

    60 Pounds Lost, Business Transformed: The Power of Authentic AI

    In this captivating conversation, I sit down with Mary Kay Garrett after meeting her at a networking event at Podworks Studio. What began as my curiosity about her incredible 60-pound weight loss journey using ChatGPT quickly unfolded into a powerful story of total life transformation through authentic AI. Mary Kay reveals how the same AI tools that helped her shed 60 pounds became the foundation for revolutionizing her entire approach to business. She shares her unique methodology for creating "soul-infused" AI that authentically reflects your deepest values, vision, and purpose—turning personal transformation into professional breakthrough. Key Takeaways: How ChatGPT can be used as a powerful weight loss coach and accountability partnerThe connection between personal transformation and business successMary Kay's methodology for creating AI that reflects your authentic voice and valuesHow to use AI as a conscious partner without losing your humanityTurning breakthrough moments into scalable business opportunitiesThe difference between mimicking and authentically infusing AI with your essence Chapters 00:00: Introduction and Meeting Mary Kay at Pod Works 02:50: The 60-Pound Weight Loss Journey with AI 08:03: Tools and Data: Tracking Health with AI 12:58: From Weight Loss to Healing Journey 16:34: AI as Emotional Counselor and Relationship Healer 19:19: Defining AI as Higher Consciousness Partner 21:40: Soul-Infused AI: Creating Authentic Digital Personas 25:13: The Future of AI in the Workplace 29:08: Family Response to AI Transformation 30:21: AI's Revolutionary Impact on Society 32:29: Balancing AI with Human Connection 33:46 – Embrace AI Partnership: Final Advice Guest Bio Mary Kay Garrett is the founder of Soul-Infused AI, where she partners with entrepreneurs to create deeply auhentic AI that truly reflects their unique voice, vision, and purpose. Through personalized workshops, leadership coaching, and training programs, Mary Kay guides entrepreneurs to step into their authenticity and confidently infuse AI with their values and true selves. As a speaker, AI trainer, leadership coach, and authenticity mentor, she specializes in authentic AI training, conscious leadership, and helping entrepreneurs maintain their authentic essence while leveraging artificial intelligence for business growth. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/soulinfusedai/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    37 min
  5. How to Build Your Own $10,000 AI Coach

    06/05/2025

    How to Build Your Own $10,000 AI Coach

    In this episode, I sit down with DJ Barton, a seasoned entrepreneur who's revolutionized how he uses AI as a personal coach and mentor. DJ reveals how he's created AI alter egos that understand his unique needs and challenges, essentially building himself a $10,000 coach that's available 24/7. DJ shares his practical strategies for training AI to unlock its true potential, emphasizing the importance of detailed communication and his "high tech, high touch" philosophy that balances AI capabilities with human insight. He explains why embracing AI isn't just advantageous but essential for future success, offering listeners a clear roadmap for leveraging AI in both business growth and personal development. Key Takeaways AI can serve as a personal coach and mentor available 24/7Training AI requires detailed and specific communication about your unique contextCreating an alter ego for AI enhances its effectiveness as a personalized advisorHigh tech should be balanced with high touch for optimal resultsAI can condense time and streamline processes when properly utilizedPersonal development is crucial in leveraging AI's full potentialEffective communication is key to maximizing AI's coaching capabilitiesAI can help overcome mental roadblocks and limiting beliefs by providing objective perspectiveEmbracing AI is essential for future success in business and personal growthBeing coachable and humble enhances the entire AI experience Episode Titles Unlocking the Power of AI in BusinessTransforming Your Life with AI CoachingThe Future of Entrepreneurship with AI Memorable Sound Bites "High tech, but also high touch.""AI could be my $10,000 coach.""You have to be a sponge to eager to learn.""You can train it to be the best version of you.""It's hard to see the picture when you're in the frame.""AI is a 10,000-hour coach and mentor.""The universe aligned us last week." Chapter Breakdown 00:00 Introduction to AI and Entrepreneurship 02:59 The Power of AI as a Personal Coach 05:52 Training Your AI: Creating an Alter Ego 08:49 Maximizing AI for Business and Personal Growth 11:49 The Importance of Detail in AI Interactions 15:05 High Tech, High Touch: Balancing AI and Human Insight 17:54 Personal Insights and Communication Skills 20:49 The Societal Impact of AI and Alter Egos 24:01 Future of AI: Embracing Change 27:03 Practical Steps to Start Using AI 29:50 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Guest Bi: DJ Barton DJ Barton is a serial entrepreneur with over a decade of business experience and Co-Founder of Go Levarti, a travel company that helps families save up to 70% on vacations. Based in Scottsdale, Arizona, DJ specializes in helping entrepreneurs create scalable, location-independent businesses and is recognized for his innovative marketing strategies and dynamic leadership approach. He's a sought-after speaker and coach who focuses on business growth, personal development, and achieving financial and lifestyle freedom. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therealdjbarton/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealdjbarton/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    37 min
  6. Positioning Is Dead. Community Is the Brand.

    05/29/2025

    Positioning Is Dead. Community Is the Brand.

    In this conversation, I sit down with Patrick Hanlon, author of Primal Branding—widely regarded as the most important book on branding ever written. Together, we explore why positioning is no longer enough, and how the brands that thrive in 2025 will be those that build community and belief—not just visibility. Patrick shares how the Primal Code—a set of elements like creation stories, rituals, and nonbelievers—is still the most powerful blueprint for building a brand people want to follow. We dive into how AI is changing branding, the tension between performance marketing and long-term brand equity, and what it means to create authentic human connection in a data-driven world. Takeaways Primal Branding builds belief systems, not just marketing plans Preference—not positioning—is what drives buying decisions Your creation story sets emotional context and builds trust Community is the new personal brand AI can assist with brand audits and strategy, but can’t replace story Branding without authenticity is forgettable The second follower is what turns attention into momentum Differentiation comes from meaning, not noise Performance marketing is a sprint; branding is a marathon Success is about becoming a magnet, not a megaphone Chapters 00:00 – Introduction to Patrick Hanlon and Primal Branding 07:45 – The Essence of Personal Branding 15:04 – How AI Is Reshaping Branding 24:08 – Storytelling: The Original Influence Strategy 30:23 – Performance Marketing vs. Long-Term Brand Building 36:20 – Why Preference Beats Positioning 39:05 – Creation Stories and Emotional Loyalty 42:40 – From Personal Branding to Community-Led Growth 46:24 – The Role of the Second Follower 52:55 – The Origins and Framework of Primal Branding 01:00:03 – Belief, Branding, and the Future with AI Patrick Hanlon is the founder and CEO of Primal Branding, a strategic brand consultancy built around the breakthrough framework introduced in his book Primal Branding—a modern classic that’s become required reading at YouTube and a go-to playbook for marketers worldwide. Hanlon’s core belief: brands are belief systems. In today’s world, where audiences are burned out on interruption and hype, Primal Branding offers a clear blueprint for building communities through story, meaning, and shared identity—not just pushing messages through a megaphone. His work bridges the gap between digital, social, and traditional marketing, providing the unifying theory behind content that connects and spreads. Over the years, Patrick and his team have launched new ventures and re-engineered iconic brands across the globe. His client list includes Levi's, PepsiCo, Shopify, Fossil, Experian, PayPal, Yum!, Kraft, Bungie, Time Warner Cable, GOOD/Upworthy, Brave Software, and The United Nations. A frequent keynote speaker and thought leader, Patrick has spoken at TEDx, IDEO, NYU, Parsons, the American Marketing Association, and more. His insights have been featured in Fast Company, Forbes, BusinessWeek Online, Inc., Entrepreneur, and NPR, and he has appeared on CNBC, Fox Business, and as a subject matter expert on branding in the documentary series The Kennedy Files. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-hanlon-primalbranding/ Website: https://www.primalbranding.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 5m
  7. The New Rules of Influence

    05/23/2025

    The New Rules of Influence

    I sat down with Mike Klein to talk about what it really takes to lead through communication in a world that’s anything but stable. This isn’t just about writing clean copy or managing internal newsletters—it’s about power, politics, and personal presence. Strategic communicators are being called to step up, not blend in. In this episode, we get into the real work of influence: shaping narratives, building credibility, navigating political landmines, and becoming the kind of leader people listen to. Key Takeaways: Communication isn’t a soft skill—it’s a leadership skill.Political climate shapes how and what we communicate—internally and externally.Personal branding isn’t optional anymore—your name is your leverage.Strategic communicators are power players, not support staff.Your network is your influence amplifier—introductions build authority.Legacy in comms isn’t about tenure—it’s about impact.Soundbite: “If you can’t communicate, you can’t lead.” “Credibility is the ultimate currency in communication.” “Strategic communicators are the translators of chaos.” “We are all brands now. The only question is: are you managing yours?” “Real influence is built behind the scenes, through connection and consistency.” Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: Why this conversation matters 04:50 – The shift from messaging to strategy 08:34 – Chaos, communication, and control 12:34 – Navigating the political climate at work 16:32 – What organizations get wrong about comms 19:02 – Personal branding as a leadership tool 22:04 – Strategic communication as career leverage 25:56 – Building your presence and perception 28:50 – The hidden value of introductions 33:16 – Leadership, legacy, and the future of comms 37:35 – Final thoughts: owning your influence Guest Bio: Mike Klein Mike Klein is a globally recognized expert in strategic and internal communication. With over 20 years of experience leading comms for global giants like Shell and Maersk, he’s the founder of #WeLeadComms and a vocal advocate for elevating the role of communicators in complex organizations. Based in Reykjavík, Mike is known for challenging the status quo and shaping the future of influence from the inside out. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mklein818/ Website: https://changingtheterms.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    40 min
5
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15 Ratings

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Welcome to The Public Figure Society, the podcast exploring leadership, influence, and authenticity in the age of AI. We've all been promoted to public figures. AI has taken over 90% of our tasks, thrusting us into leadership whether we're ready or not. The gatekeepers are gone. We are now the architects of our lives and the changemakers of society. But with this promotion comes responsibility: How do we lead ourselves? How do we get discovered and build our presence? And when AI handles everything else, what do we do with what's left? How do we stay authentically human? This podcast explores these questions through conversations with leaders, innovators, and everyday people who are navigating this shift. We'll profile those doing it well, bring in experts to share their strategies, and uncover what it means to thrive as a public figure in this new age. Each episode focuses on: Leadership What does it mean to lead when AI is your taskmaster? How do we shift from following to leading ourselves? Influence How do you get discovered? How do you build your presence and share your gifts with the world? The strategies that worked for celebrities now work for everyone. Authenticity If AI takes over 90% of our tasks, what do we do with the remaining 10%? This is where we become fully human. What matters most to you? What do you want to create, explore, contribute? Join us as we explore the changing role of the public figure, master the art of influence, and discover how to stay human in the age of AI. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.