Fintech Daydreaming

Pål Krogdahl and Ville Sointu
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Between digital native customers demanding instant gratification and the ever increasing amount of regulation, financial institutions are between a rock and a hard place. The era of the fintech started after the 2008 financial crisis, challenging the status quo. More than a decade later banks haven’t gone anywhere, yet fintech is more relevant than ever. What happened with all the fintech hopes and dreams? In this podcast Pål Krogdahl & Ville Sointu pick one topic in every episode and try to look at it through the lens of fintech disruption - or lack thereof. This is Fintech Daydreaming.

  1. 1d ago

    Bank 5.0 and The Return of The King with Brett King

    Welcome to a(nother) special edition of FinTech Daydreaming as Ville and Pål welcome back a friend of the show, futurist, author, and Moven co-founder Brett King to preview his upcoming book, Bank 5.0. After some lively banter covering Amazon ranking milestones for banking authors, the conversation shifts to the profound technological transformations reshaping the financial universe. In this episode, the discussion covers: The Machine Customer Revolution: Brett explores how agentic artificial intelligence will alter global commerce and industry. By the year 2030, primary banking customers will be autonomous software agents instead of human beings signing paper forms. This transition strips away traditional product sales, turning banks into pure financial utilities. Stopping Freight Trains with Machine Identity: Addressing recent decisions by institutions like JPMorgan Chase and Citi to block external AI agents, Brett describes these restrictions as short term roadblocks against market driven momentum. The financial ecosystem urgently requires standardized machine identity frameworks and automated regulatory supervision to safely handle autonomous agents. The Demise of Brand Loyalty: When a personal AI assistant negotiates across an engagement orchestration layer, traditional marketing perks like airline miles and card reward points become irrelevant. To stay inside the loop when autonomous agents decide where to route funds, banks must train proprietary foundation models on behavioral and transactional data. The Three Tiers of Future Banking: Looking ahead a decade, the financial landscape will be led by AI native newcomers, agile fintechs with modern tech stacks, and a small group of adaptable incumbents. Brett points to Stripe as a premier example of modern infrastructure, while noting that legacy card networks will transition into pure data transmission highways featuring built in transaction rollback capabilities. The dialogue closes with an examination of large scale automation, the societal necessity of universal basic income, and Brett delivering his classic stand up joke about who really robs whom in banking. Episode hosted by Pål Krogdahl & Ville Sointu Episode produced and edited by Fintech Daydreaming - Email us on Hello@FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming home page - https://www.FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintech-daydreaming - Pål Krogdahl - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krogdahl/ - Ville Sointu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ville-sointu-54682b/

  2. Oct 22

    Full Metal Card and Agents of M.C.P. | Nordic Fintech Highlights September 2026

    Welcome back to another Nordic FinTech Highlights edition of FinTech Daydreaming! Ville takes the host's chair this week, fresh off his short vacation, to guide Pål and Janne through what has been the busiest month of the year for Nordic fintech news. After a quick a celebration of Pål’s new book hitting #10 on Amazon’s banking new releases, the trio dives into the biggest September headlines - along with a special guest audio appearance by Pål’s dog, Toto. In this episode, we break down: Trade Republic’s Finnish Invasion: The German trading app has announced a "full banking experience" in Finland, offering 3% daily interest and 1% "Saveback" to combat the €75 billion sitting in low-interest Finnish deposit accounts. We debate the reality behind their marketing, noting the lack of a local Finnish IBAN or e-invoicing capabilities, while Ville admits he only originally signed up to get their shiny mirror-finish metal card. Atlar & Claude Connect: Swedish treasury management fintech Atlar is now an official connector for Anthropic’s Claude AI. We explore how the Model Context Protocol (MCP) allows corporate treasurers to bypass traditional UI screens and use large language models to securely draft payments and forecast cash flows. Danske Bank's Corporate MCP: Danske Bank is boldly opening its data to corporate customers' own AI tools via a proprietary MCP. We discuss the critical differences between tightly controlled embedded finance and the potential "Wild West" of third-party AI agents, specifically regarding how to control an agent's true "intent" before it executes a payment. Plus, Janne delivers another controversial regulation joke, and the hosts announce their upcoming live recording at the Nordic Banking Forum on November 26th. Episode hosted by Pål Krogdahl, Ville Sointu & Janne Salminen Episode produced and edited by Fintech Daydreaming - Email us on Hello@FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming home page - https://www.FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintech-daydreaming - Pål Krogdahl - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krogdahl/ - Ville Sointu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ville-sointu-54682b/

  3. Oct 8

    The Duct Tape Ultimatum with Olaf Ransome and Liz Oakes (Recorded live at PostTrade 360)

    Welcome to a special live edition of Fintech Daydreaming recorded live from the PostTrade360 conference stage in Stockholm! For this unique session the usual dynamic is completely inverted. Olaf Ransome steps into the host chair while Ville and Pål take the guest seats. They are joined by Liz Oakes who brings her extensive policy experience and payments expertise to the panel. After a quick penalty into the curse jar for discussing the beautiful Swedish weather the group dives into the messy reality of modernizing payment rails. In this episode we break down: Core Banking vs The Duct Tape Economy: The group debates how long legacy financial institutions can continue patching old batch systems to handle the demand for constant instant settlement. Pål warns that the chasm between legacy capabilities and future requirements is widening rapidly. The Casino Token Dilemma: The panel tackles the massive hype surrounding stablecoins and tokenized deposits. Ville explains that artificial intelligence agents do not need crypto wallets because they can easily utilize existing card and A2A rails with the proper permissions in a scalable way. While stablecoins might solve very specific niche problems like volatile currency markets or shipping demurrage costs they suffer from severe liquidity friction the moment someone tries to cash out of the closed network. How Much Instant Do We Actually Need?: Liz highlights that corporate treasurers often prefer orchestrated predictable treasury management over pure instant execution. Pål then takes a nostalgic look back at the lost optionality of forward-dated checkbooks right before being reminded about what is actually legal and what is not. Episode hosted by Pål Krogdahl & Ville Sointu Episode produced and edited by Fintech Daydreaming - Email us on Hello@FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming home page - https://www.FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintech-daydreaming - Pål Krogdahl - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krogdahl/ - Ville Sointu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ville-sointu-54682b/

  4. Sep 25

    The Cloud, The Branch, and The Algorithm | Nordic Fintech Highlights August 2026

    Welcome back to another edition of Nordic FinTech Highlights! This month, Pål and Janne are joined by a heavily jet-lagged Ville, who is battling through Zoom technical gremlins after an eight-day trip to the US West Coast. Fresh off a stateside marathon of exceptional progressive house and trance music, Ville powers through to help cover the biggest August headlines across the Nordic fintech landscape. In this episode, we break down: Avanza’s Algorithmic Ambitions: A look into Avanza Sigma, a new discretionary portfolio management service targeting high-net-worth individuals in Sweden with a low-fee structure. We debate the growing trend of AI-driven investments and whether humans are still in the loop behind the scenes. Ericsson & MTN’s Cloud Migration: Ericsson is moving its massive mobile money platform for MTN Group to the public cloud. We discuss the trade-offs between incredible cloud-native performance gains and the long-term reality of hyperscaler vendor lock-in. Revolut’s Push for a Finnish Branch: Revolut is applying for a branch license in Finland to finally offer local IBANs to its 250,000+ Finnish customers. We explore what this means for local e-invoicing, salary deposits, the strong authentication ecosystem, and the future of primary banking relationships. Finally, stick around to the very end to hear Janne’s latest terrible dad joke about the new €2 commemorative coins. You might regret doing so, but at least we warned you. Episode hosted by Pål Krogdahl, Ville Sointu & Janne Salminen Episode produced and edited by Fintech Daydreaming - Email us on Hello@FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming home page - https://www.FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintech-daydreaming - Pål Krogdahl - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krogdahl/ - Ville Sointu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ville-sointu-54682b/

  5. Sep 10

    Do AI Agents Dream of Electric Bank Accounts? with Rolf Jensen from Lunar

    Here at Fintech Daydreaming, we pride ourselves on the unedited, "live" feel of our recordings. Over the years, our listeners have been treated to everything from a hotel maid walking in on Ville, to New York police sirens, to Ville's automatic hydroponic garden sounding suspiciously like someone taking a bathroom break off-camera. This week however we successfully navigated the recording (with only a brief cameo from Pål's dog) to bring you a fantastic conversation with Rolf Jensen, VP of Technology at the Nordic neobank Lunar! We explore the "trench warfare" of the Nordic financial ecosystem and look under the hood at Lunar's technology strategy, including their new banking-as-a-platform capability, Moonrise. Tune in to hear us discuss: The Build vs. Buy Dilemma: Why Lunar opted to buy a ledger but build custom, atomic components around it to stay directly connected to local infrastructure. AI Supercharging Engineering: How Lunar’s development teams used AI to achieve a 5x increase in output—while actually seeing their incident rates drop! Invisible Banking: We debate an "agentic" future where the bank fades into the background, and ask the tough questions: will autonomous AI agents eventually need their own KYC processes and bank accounts? A Shameless Plug: Pål managed to limit the promotion of his new book, Rip Out the Core, to just a single mention. Whether you are interested in the explosive growth of neobanks, the real-world ROI of AI in software development, or just want to hear how we keep the recording on track, you won't want to miss this one. 🎧 Listen to the full episode now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or watch us on YouTube! Let us know your thoughts in the comments: Are we heading toward a future where AI agents do our banking for us? Episode hosted by Pål Krogdahl & Ville Sointu Episode produced and edited by Fintech Daydreaming - Email us on Hello@FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming home page - https://www.FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintech-daydreaming - Pål Krogdahl - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krogdahl/ - Ville Sointu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ville-sointu-54682b/

  6. Sep 2

    Nordic Fintech Week Special: We're Gonna Need a Bigger Podcast

    We are gearing up for Nordic Fintech Week with an exclusive, jam packed two guest episode! Ville and Pål sit down with two heavyweights of the European financial technology space to discuss everything from building challenger banks to the impending robot takeover. One thing we learned at least: we could’ve made this episode easily four hours long (but we didn’t, don’t worry). 🚀 Ken Villum Klausen unveils Reporto After 11 years taking on the Nordic banking cartel at Lunar, Ken drops some massive news. He exclusively reveals his new startup: Reporto. Fresh off an 8.2 million euro seed round, they are building an artificial intelligence native audit firm from the ground up to take on the Big Four. 🤖 Panagiotis Kriaris on the New Fintech Playbook The old growth playbook is officially dead. Panagiotis introduces the "agentic layer" where artificial intelligence agents make decisions and execute financial transactions for human users. His warning to legacy banks is clear: modernize your data architecture fast, or your systems will fail to communicate with these new autonomous agents. 🎟️ Books and Discounts Pål proudly refuses to not mention once again that his new book, Rip Out The Core, is officially out across all platforms! Heading to Copenhagen for Nordic Fintech Week? Use the promo code FintechDaydreamingNFW25 for a 25% discount on your ticket! Will we be seeing you in Copenhagen? Episode hosted by Pål Krogdahl & Ville Sointu Episode produced and edited by Fintech Daydreaming - Email us on Hello@FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming home page - https://www.FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintech-daydreaming - Pål Krogdahl - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krogdahl/ - Ville Sointu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ville-sointu-54682b/

  7. Aug 27

    Digital Euro Pilots Take Off, Doomsday Banks & Finnish M&A | Nordic Fintech Highlights July 2026

    July in the Nordics usually consists of out-of-office autoreplies and mosquito bites, but while we were all on vacation, the European Central Bank was busy clearing the table. Pål and Ville are back to the microphones alongside the ever-insightful Janne Salminen from Helsinki Fintech Farm, to unpack it all. Here is what we are dissecting in our Nordic Fintech Highlights season 14 return: 🇪🇺 The Digital Euro Pilot: The ECB has tapped 36 payment service providers for its retail pilot, targeting mid-2027. Ville gives us a highly enthusiastic breakdown of the aggressive 12-month timeline and offline capabilities, while Pål nods along. 🇩🇰 Denmark’s "Doomsday" Bank: The Danish National Bank is building a dormant emergency backup bank to protect against "prolonged AI-driven cyber attacks." We ask the hard question: if AI breaks out, what stops it from hacking the backup too? 🇫🇮 Finnish Bank Shopping: S-Bank is acquiring Oma Savings Bank for a cool €17.20 per share. We discuss how S-Bank is turning dormant supermarket loyalty cardholders into active banking customers—and accidentally acquiring corporate banking capabilities along the way. 📖 Shameless Plugs: In case you’ve somehow managed to mis it: Pål wrote a book! Rip Out the Core is out now. We are currently accepting petitions to force Janne to narrate the Finnish-accented audiobook version. Grab your headphones and check out the full episode on your favorite podcast app or YouTube! Let us know in the comments: is a 12-month implementation window for the Digital Euro pilot a daydream or a reality? Episode hosted by Pål Krogdahl, Ville Sointu & Janne Salminen Episode produced and edited by Fintech Daydreaming - Email us on Hello@FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming home page - https://www.FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintech-daydreaming - Pål Krogdahl - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krogdahl/ - Ville Sointu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ville-sointu-54682b/

  8. Aug 14

    Rip Out the Core, or How We Learned to Stop Worrying and Build a Better Bank (Not Just a Better IT System)

    We have somehow survived long enough to make it to Season 14, and to kick things off, Ville is putting his co-host Pål in the hot seat. Pål actually went and published a brand new book, Rip Out the Core, proving that at least one half of this podcast is capable of being productive. We start the episode with a vintage Pål joke about minting meme coins. We will not spoil the punchline here, but let's just say it is wrong on several levels. Then we dive into the hard-earned lessons from his three decades of scars in banking transformation. If you have ever wondered why so many banking projects fail to meet expectations, this episode is your survival guide. We unpack: .- How a disastrous kitchen flood inspired his unified theory of Platform Enabled Banking Transformation. .- The Goldfish Innovation Cycle where banks endlessly loop between chasing shiny new tech and retreating to painful core replacements. .- Why the traditional RFP procurement process has devolved into AI generated checkbox theatre. .- The Build Buy or Consume golden rule of banking architecture. .- The twelve month rule for execution before your strategy hits the point of diminishing returns. What is the ultimate piece of advice Pål has for any bank CxO listening? You will have to tune in to the end of the episode to find out, but we can confirm it involves a blank piece of paper and a healthy dose of caffeine. Pål also has a special offer for our listeners. Post a picture of yourself with his book on LinkedIn, tag him, and he will send you a personalized signed sticky label for your copy. And if you spot the specific Easter eggs mentioning our very own Ville in the book, reach out to him for a mystery gift (because of course Ville's culinary ego could not resist making an appearance in Pål's kitchen metaphor). Grab your copy at ripoutthecore.com and tune in to the episode on your favorite podcast platform! Episode hosted by Pål Krogdahl & Ville Sointu Episode produced and edited by Fintech Daydreaming - Email us on Hello@FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming home page - https://www.FintechDaydreaming.com - Fintech Daydreaming on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintech-daydreaming - Pål Krogdahl - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krogdahl/ - Ville Sointu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ville-sointu-54682b/

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Between digital native customers demanding instant gratification and the ever increasing amount of regulation, financial institutions are between a rock and a hard place. The era of the fintech started after the 2008 financial crisis, challenging the status quo. More than a decade later banks haven’t gone anywhere, yet fintech is more relevant than ever. What happened with all the fintech hopes and dreams? In this podcast Pål Krogdahl & Ville Sointu pick one topic in every episode and try to look at it through the lens of fintech disruption - or lack thereof. This is Fintech Daydreaming.

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  • Creator
    Pål Krogdahl and Ville Sointu
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    148
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © Pål Krogdahl and Ville Sointu
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    Fintech Daydreaming