The Mind Full Medic Podcast

Dr Cheryl Martin

Podcast with Dr Cheryl Martin  exploring health, wellbeing, optimal performance and professional fulfilment  with a particular focus on doctors and healthcare.

  1. 3d ago

    Building a career you don't need to recover from: Sustainability, Longevity and Flourishing in Medicine with Rob Orman MD.

    Send us Fan Mail In S7 E 7 I am delighted to welcome Rob Orman, MD to the podcast. Dr Orman is a physician coach and former emergency physician with two decades of clinical experience. He is the author of Supranormal: A Field Guide to Navigating the Impossible Job and helps doctors get unstuck, recover from burnout, and build careers worth staying in. He is the host of Stimulus, a top-ranked medical podcast on resilience and career design for physicians, and an ICF-certified coach who has logged thousands of hours helping physicians navigate conflict, behavioral challenges, and major career transitions. Rob co-founded Guidewire Coaching, previously served as chief editor of EM:RAP, and for nearly a decade hosted Essentials of Emergency Medicine, the world's largest single-track emergency medicine conference. He was also a technical advisor on the Emmy-winning HBO series The Pitt. In this episode, we talk about: •       Building a career you do not need to recover from - sustainability, longevity and flourishing rather than merely surviving •       Working ON your career, not just in it - are you renting or owning your career? •       Afterburn, and the distinction between healthy concern and unhealthy rumination •       The Supranormal Paradox - self-preservation reads as selfish in a culture that rewards self-sacrifice •       Grit that saves, grit that buries - the same tool, two very different outcomes •       Parasympathetic nurturing and self-care as an essential and trainable skill. Thank you Rob for this coaching conversation and the new book which has given me more practical tools to take to my practice individually and with clinicians.  Links: Rob's podcast, Stimulus: wherever you listen to podcasts Supranormal: A Field Guide to Navigating the Impossible Job: https://roborman.com/supranormal/ Guidewire Coaching: https://guidewirecoaching.com/ Unburnable — Anti-Burnout Cohort Course: https://guidewirecoaching.com/ Out On Time — Asynchronous Shift Efficiency Course: https://guidewirecoaching.com/oot/ The Awake + Aware Retreat (annual retreat): https://awake.guidewirecoaching.com/ The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about the charitable organisation supporting doctors and their families and/ or donate today at www.mbansw.org.au Disclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not  necessarily reflect those of  our employers or other official organisations.

  2. Sep 27

    From Bedside to Boardroom: The Power of "What?" Questions in Clinician and Organisational Wellbeing with Dr Catherine Olweny

    Send us Fan Mail In S7 E 6 I am delighted welcome Dr Catherine Olweny (BA(Hons), BMBS, MA, MCoun, FANZCA, AFRACMA, Diploma Clinical Hypnosis, Graduate Certificate Therapeutic Child Play) to the podcast. Dr Olweny is a Consultant Paediatric Anaesthetist. Her clinical interests focus on the prevention and management of procedural anxiety and distress in children, and on reducing the risk of medical trauma through trauma-informed healthcare practices. She is a strong advocate for trauma-informed systems in healthcare delivery, trauma-informed approaches to clinical education, and wellness-centred leadership in healthcare organisations. She holds a Master of Arts in French Studies from the University of New England and a Master of Counselling from Monash University. She is also trained in Clinical Hypnosis and Therapeutic Child Play. In addition to her anaesthesia practice, Catherine is a registered counsellor and provides therapy to paediatric patients. She also offers supportive counselling for senior medical staff, international medical graduates, doctors in training, and medical students. Additional Dr Olweny serves as a Board Director of The Royal Children’s Hospital Foundation and the Royal Australasian College of Medical Administrators (RACMA), where she chairs the Finance and Audit Committee. In this episode, which continues our series theme of communication at every level in healthcare, we talk about: •       Lifelong learning, curiosity, hypnosis and Visual Thinking Strategies (VTS) •       Narrative medicine and the stories we tell ourselves and receive from our patients •       Insights from the Stanford Chief Wellness Officer course, and organisational wellbeing and governance Key Takeaways: •       The power of "What?" questions and the shift from “Do you have any questions for me?” to “What questions do you have for me?” to maintain an open and curious dialogue. •       The VTS three-question framework: What is going on here? What makes you say that? What more can we find? and applying visual thinking strategies to our communication with patients and colleagues.  •       Clinician wellbeing is a KPI built at every level, from individual to the boardroom in healthcare •       The Pillars of presence: mindful self-awareness, curiosity, humility and  compassion for self and others Thank you Catherine for continuing to positively stretch my thinking, learning and practice.  Links/Reference and to learn more about Catherine and her work:  https://counselling4kids.com.au/dr-catherine-olweny/ https://counselling4docs.com.au/our-team/ Catherine's recent podcast/webinar/workshop  series appearance as visiting fellow of Commonweal New School : https://tns.commonweal.org/podcasts/catherine-olweny/ Learn more: Visual Thinking Strategies Institute  https://vtshome.org/ Related Episodes: Prof Tait Shanafelt — Designing Occupational Wellbeing (Season 7, Episode 1): https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/designing-evidence-informed-occupational-wellbeing/id1513559414?i=1000771941730 Dr Daniel Murphy — Wellness-Centred Leadership (Season 3, Episode 9): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wellness-centred-leadership-with-dr-daniel-murphy-md/id1513559414?i=1000578350874 Dr Bethan Richards — Leadership, Strategy and Innovation (Season 5, Episode 11): https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/episodes/15672714 The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about the charitable organisation supporting doctors and their families and/ or donate today at www.mbansw.org.au Disclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not  necessarily reflect those of  our employers or other official organisations.

  3. Sep 16

    Speaking Human and Building a Talk that Lands with Dr Andrew Tagg

    Send us Fan Mail In S7 E 5 I am delighted to welcome Dr Andrew Tagg to continue our theme of communication and expand or thinking and doing in presenting.  Andrew is an emergency physician with a special interest in paediatrics, and one of the co-founders of the website Don't Forget The Bubbles. He wears many hats with a portfolio career that spans clinical medicine, workforce wellbeing leadership, education and research and as faculty for the DFTB international conference and globally renowned paediatric education platform. Andrew  spends much of his time thinking, and now writing, about the art and practice of effective  communication in medicine and healthcare. In this conversation we dive deeper into his most recent creation Speak Human, a newsletter dedicated to this topic. We explore some of the frameworks, practical ideas and content of his newsletter and workshops. He challenges some of our ( my) pre-existing thinking and practice in this area and I left with truly practical and actionable ideas to work with. Some of my takeaways on Speaking Human and Building a Talk That Lands  Start with the message -  what are the one or two things you actually want them to take away? Distil ruthlessly. No pain by PowerPoint.Use What → So What → Now What to build and test every point. Rather than “what do I want to say?” start asking “what do I want them to hear and why should they care?”Make it concrete, not abstract - a can of cola communicates a newborn's circulating blood volume better than any number doesAudiences feel your nervous system before they hear your words - manage your own state first.The Power of the Pause - silence can one of the hardest but most powerful tools a speaker hasUse AI as a tool to augment your content and make resources more accessible to your audience.    Fundamentally you are not the audience, and you're there to serve them - know what you want them to learn, feel, and take away, and make it easy for themThank you Andrew. I learned so much in this session. You can learn more from Andrew and about his work by subscribing to his Speak Human Newsletter linked below.  Links and References: Speak Human newsletter: https://www.andrewjtagg.com/newsletter The infamous Lego study:  “Everything is awesome: Don't forget the Lego” — Tagg, A., Roland, D., Leo, G.S., Knight, K., Goldstein, H., Davis, T. and on behalf of Don't Forget The Bubbles (2019), J Paediatr Child Health, 55: 921-923: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/jpc.14309 Andrew's Emotional Contagion Talk: Don't Forget The Bubbles — “Mirror, Mirror”: https://dontforgetthebubbles.com/mirror-mirror/ Access the full context from CCIM 2026 including the audio context from Andrew's workshop "Speak So People Listen" Creative Careers in Medicine 2026 — Metamorphosis: https://creativecareersinmedicine.vhx.tv/checkout/ccim-2026-metamorphosis/purchase The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about the charitable organisation supporting doctors and their families and/ or donate today at www.mbansw.org.au Disclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not  necessarily reflect those of  our employers or other official organisations.

  4. Aug 22

    Strategic Optimism: Communication, Trust and Prevention with Dr Michael Bonning

    Send us Fan Mail S 7 E 4 I am delighted to welcome Dr Michael Bonning to the podcast.  Dr Bonning is a Sydney GP, with two decades of leadership across the AMA, AMSA, the RACGP and doctors' health. His clinical career has included Indigenous health, a career as a medical officer in the Royal Australian Navy, general practice ownership and management and COVID responses. He has made doctors' health a career-long focus, including as an inaugural director of the National Doctors' Health Service, six years on the board of Beyond Blue and as a director of hand n hand peer support. Michael is now running for Federal President of the AMA, on a platform to protect the value of doctors and the undermining of expertise, the importance of Medicare as a true safety net, the need to protect clinical independence and give doctors one clear, unified voice. In this episode, we talk about: •       Michael's two decades of leadership across the AMA, AMSA and RACGP, and his campaign for Federal AMA President •       Communicating under pressure in healthcare from the media spotlight to earning public trust •       The fight against mis- and disinformation in healthcare •       Public health and prevention the upstream social and commercial determinants of health, and the core pillars of prevention. Doctors' Health Advocacy as a strategic imperative not nice to have, optional extra.Key Takeaways — Communicating with Media: •       Prepare - know your material before you say yes to an interview •       Find out what matters - understand what the journalist or audience actually needs •       Be measured, and ground your conversation in the science and the evidence •       Phone a friend - check in with a trusted colleague before high-stakes media •       Determine if you're the best person to give the advice •       Don't become the story - keep the focus on the issue, not on yourself Thank you Michael your skilled and purpose driven leadership and support for your colleagues and patients and our healthcare system at large is the consistent thread running through this conversation.  Links: Michael's LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/michaelbonning Creative Careers in Medicine Conference 2026 (CCIM), Gold Coast QT, 4–5 September: https://events.humanitix.com/ccim2026 The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about the charitable organisation supporting doctors and their families and/ or donate today at www.mbansw.org.au Disclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not  necessarily reflect those of  our employers or other official organisations.

  5. Jul 19

    Creating Spaces for Listening and Connection in Medicine with Dr Andrew Davies.

    Send us Fan Mail In S7 E3 is a full circle moment for me as I get to welcome Dr Andrew Davies to the show. Andrew is my podcast mentor and has been instrumental in helping me get started and as an ongoing source of support and wise council. I could not think of a better guest given this season's theme of communication in medicine.  Andrew has been an intensive care medicine specialist for  over three decades.  He experienced a period of severe depletion and burnout mid-life, mid-career  at a time of overcommitment to his research career. He describes the personal and professional growth that followed and now recounts this as an experience that reshaped his entire approach to medicine and life. Today he works at Peninsula University Hospital, where he is passionate about delivering compassionate, human-centred intensive care while actively supporting the wellbeing and development of fellow clinicians. Andrew hosts his own very successful podcast, Mastering Intensive Care  which recently reached 100 episodes. Here he faciliates deeply reflective conversations with his colleagues in critical care. It's a fantastic series and I heave learned a lot from Andrew and his guests to date.  In this episode, we talk about:  •       Listening as a skill  and why it matters as much in medicine as anywhere else.  •       Our own experiences of mid-career and mid-life burnout, and re-learning how we approach self-care and regulation as an  intentional practice and ever evolving skillset. •       The core pillars of wellbeing -movement, food, sleep, stress regulation and connection. Mindfulness as a muscle and the skill of making and protecting space for what matters.  •       Individual versus systemic approaches to wellbeing in healthcare, and why both matter. •       Running, ultra endurance feats and what these teach us about community, connection, and capacity for joy.  “Don’t ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive. Because what the world needs is more people who have come alive.” — Howard Thurman Links: Andrew's podcast, Mastering Intensive Care: https://masteringintensivecare.libsyn.com Upcoming Community Events: Dr Dominique Lee — Book Launch, hosted by Dr Cheryl Martin. Melbourne, 15 August 2026, 3pm, Langham Hotel. https://events.humanitix.com/what-s-been-broken-is-all-the-more-sharp-or-book-tour-in-melbourne CCIM Conference — Gold Coast, QT, 4–5 September 2026. https://events.humanitix.com/ccim2026 The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about the charitable organisation supporting doctors and their families and/ or donate today at www.mbansw.org.au Disclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not  necessarily reflect those of  our employers or other official organisations.

  6. Jun 28

    Find your Empathy Warriors. In conversation with author of "What's Been Broken Is All The More Sharp", Dr Yoo Young ( Dominique) Lee.

    Send us Fan Mail S7 E2 Some conversations on this podcast carry more weight than others. This is one of them. Dr Yoo Young (Dominique) Lee is a radiation oncologist, educator, researcher, and the author of What's Been Broken Is All the More Sharp,  a memoir that breaks a decade of silence about sexual assault within the medical profession, and examines what survivorship can look like inside a system that still struggles to acknowledge the harm it permits. When Dominique reached out to come on the podcast in the lead-up to her book's release it was an unequivocal yes from me. What followed was a conversation that took a deeply human direction. This is not a story of personal triumph. It is, as Dominique herself frames it, a relocation of shame from those who have been wrongly carrying it, onto the people and systems that should have been carrying it all along. It is also a love letter to the colleagues and friends who held her, and a call to every listener to consider whether they can be that person for someone else. Among the threads we explore: The arc from a decade of silence to a tweet, a Guardian interview, and now a book and an active campaign for independent reporting of workplace misconduct in medicineDominique's team of avengers and empathy warriors, the people she credits with her being alive today, and what their actions tell us about what it means to be an upstander and critical supporter.The culture of medicine more broadly and how we measure a "good" clinicianHer presentation and advocacy work on how the system fails victims of abuse in medicineThe work of HeyBoss! her physician wellbeing initiative, dedicated to helping doctors thrive through connection, purpose, and personal growthWhy so few survivors of medical mistreatment remain, and what the profession owes those who did not stayThe mission to support the people in medicine who feel like misfits. Something I now consider closer to the norm than the exception.This is a conversation about what medicine has refused to address. It is, also, a conversation about the people who refused to look away. Thank you Dominique for reminding me why this podcast exists. Content note This episode discusses sexual assault, harassment and abuse in medicine, and suicide. Please take care of yourself as you listen. If you need to step away, the conversation will be here when you're ready. Resources If you need support right now Australia · 1800RESPECT · 1800 737 732 · 24/7 — https://www.1800respect.org.auUK · Rape Crisis England & Wales · 0808 500 2222 — https://rapecrisis.org.ukUSA · RAINN National Sexual Assault Hotline · 1-800-656-4673 — https://www.rainn.orgNew Zealand · Safe to Talk · 0800 044 334 — https://safetotalk.nzCanada · Ending Violence Association of Canada — https://endingviolencecanada.orgIf you're a doctor seeking confidential support Australia · Drs4Drs — https://www.drs4drs.com.au - call 1300-374-377 for assistanceUSA · Physician Support Line · 1-888-409-0141 — https://www.physiciansupportline.comUK · Doctors in Distress — https://doctors-in-distress.org.ukDominique's work Dr Dominique Lee · website — https://drdominiquelee.com/HeyBoss! — https://heyboss.org/What's Been Broken Is All the More Sharp · Simon & Schuster Australia — https://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/Whats-Been-Broken-Is-All-the-More-Sharp/Dominique-(Yoo-Young)-Lee/9781764372336Further reading on culture and safety in medicine Sexual Harassment Between Doctors: Healing Medical Cultures Around the World · edited by Prof Louise Stone (Cambridge University Press) · with foreword by Dr Dominique Lee — https://www.cambridge.org/au/universitypress/subjects/law/medico-legal-bioethics-and-health-law/sexual-harassment-between-doctors-healing-medical-cultures-around-world?format=PB&isbn=9781009673068SafeDr · Prof Leanne Rowe · empowering doctors to uphold human rights in healthcare under WHS laws — https://safedr.orgThe Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about the charitable organisation supporting doctors and their families and/ or donate today at www.mbansw.org.au Disclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not  necessarily reflect those of  our employers or other official organisations.

  7. Jun 9

    Designing Evidence-Informed Occupational Wellbeing in Healthcare and Sustaining It Across the Arc of a Medical Career with Professor Tait Shanafelt, MD

    Send us Fan Mail Welcome to Season 7 Episode 1 in conversation with Professor Tait Shanafelt, Chief Wellness Officer, Associate Dean, and the Jeanie & Stewart Ritchie Professor of Medicine at Stanford University, and Director of the Stanford WellMD & WellPhD Center. Across more than two decades and several hundred peer-reviewed papers, Tait’s work has fundamentally reshaped how medicine understands itself,  shifting the conversation from “fix the doctor” to “fix the system.” His papers have been referenced in more episodes of this podcast, and more generally, than any other voice in the field.  We begin with the conceptual shift that transitioned physician wellbeing from a personal and individual problem to an organisational responsibility referencing 2017 Nine Organizational Strategies paper. Post-pandemic The Wellbeing 2.0 paper reflected on where we have been, where we are and where we are headed. With this frame in mind we discuss the update in research, thinking and practice through the published 2025 Ten Principles to Advance Occupational Well-being paper, This article provides an organisation-facing guidebook for leaders that concentrates decades of evidence into ten foundational principles. There is a deliberate language shift from physician wellbeing to occupational wellbeing across the whole healthcare workforce. We zoom in from the strategic-systems lens to the practical work of unit-level leadership, evidence-informed tactics, and the day-to-day realities of work-life integration. We close on the  five-part Career Life Cycle series, published this year, that charts the influences on wellbeing across the arc of a career, from residency and fellowship through early, mid, and late career into retirement. There are unique challenges at each stage but across the whole arc, the fundamental drivers of wellbeing are similar: autonomy, meaning, community, connection.  Along the way, we discuss the iteration and evolution of the Chief Wellness Officer and Wellbeing Director courses out of Stanford WellMD  pathways into this work that have shaped and continue to advance a generation of leaders globally.  References The 2025 paper at the centre of the conversation Shanafelt T, Trockel M, Stolz S, Murphy D, Bohman B. Ten Principles to Advance Occupational Well-being in Health Care Organizations. Mayo Clinic Proceedings. 2025;100(6):995–1004. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mayocp.2025.03.026 Landmark papers Shanafelt TD, Noseworthy JH. Executive Leadership and Physician Well-being: Nine Organizational Strategies. Mayo Clinic Proceedings. 2017;92(1):129–146. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mayocp.2016.10.004 Shanafelt TD. Physician Well-being 2.0: Where Are We and Where Are We Going? Mayo Clinic Proceedings. 2021;96(10):2682–2693. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mayocp.2021.06.005 The five-part Career Life Cycle series (2025–2026) Thomas LR, Brigham T, Shanafelt T. Residency and Fellowship: Fostering Physician Well-being Over the Career Life Cycle. Mayo Clinic Proceedings. 2025;100(9):1649–1659. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mayocp.2025.05.024 Rotenstein L, Harry E, Shanafelt T. The Early Career Phase: Fostering Physician Well-being Over the Career Life Cycle.Mayo Clinic Proceedings. 2025;100(10):1836–1845. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mayocp.2025.05.025 Ligibel JA, Awad K, Shanafelt T. Mid-Career: Fostering Physician Well-being Over the Career Life Cycle. Mayo Clinic Proceedings. 2025;100(11):2007–2016. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mayocp.2025.05.026 Frey K, Arata M, Shanafelt T. Late Career: Fostering Physician Well-being Over the Career Life Cycle. Mayo Clinic Proceedings. 2025;100(12):2255–2261. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mayocp.2025.05.028 Brower KJ, Litt IF, Shanafelt TD. Retirement: Fostering Physician Well-being Over the Career Life Cycle. Mayo Clinic Proceedings. 2026;101(1):179–186. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mayocp.2025.05.027 Stanford WellMD course and education information discussed in the episode •      Stanford WellMD & WellPhD Center  —  https://wellmd.stanford.edu •      Stanford Chief Wellness Officer Course  —https://wellmd.stanford.edu/knowledge-hub/courses-conferences/cwo-course.html •      Stanford Wellbeing Director Course  —  https://wellmd.stanford.edu/knowledge-hub/courses-conferences/directorcourse.html The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about the charitable organisation supporting doctors and their families and/ or donate today at www.mbansw.org.au Disclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not  necessarily reflect those of  our employers or other official organisations.

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Podcast with Dr Cheryl Martin  exploring health, wellbeing, optimal performance and professional fulfilment  with a particular focus on doctors and healthcare.

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