The Disciples Made Podcast

Disciples Made

We are Disciples Made, and we multiply disciples that make the world a better place. We inspire disciple-makers to unleash disciples into the John 10:10 ”Fully Alive” life by helping them bear spiritual fruit (character) and develop spiritual gifts (calling). The result... better people making the world a better place. Join the movement!

  1. 6d ago ·  Bonus

    S5 Bonus Episode: A Rare Opportunity to Take Your First Step Toward Disciple Multiplication

    Throughout Season 5 of Breaking the Addition Addiction, we've challenged some of the most common assumptions about church growth, disciple-making, and multiplication. We've explored the difference between addition and multiplication, examined why programs don't automatically produce disciples, and discussed how churches can unintentionally build systems that reinforce attendance rather than reproduction. But understanding the problem is only the beginning. In this special bonus episode, Jason Phelps and Brian Phipps announce a rare donor-sponsored opportunity designed to help churches move from insight to implementation. Thanks to the generosity of ministry partners, Disciples Made is underwriting up to 25 Mission Mapping engagements (a $750 value) for churches that are serious about becoming more intentional about disciple multiplication. Mission Mapping is a collaborative process that helps leadership teams: • Gain objective clarity about their disciple-making culture • Identify the biggest obstacles limiting multiplication • Align around a shared vision and strategy • Develop a practical 12-month roadmap for growth and implementation • Discern their next faithful step as a church Every church begins by completing the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment and scheduling a Discovery Call. Together, we'll determine whether Mission Mapping is the right next step for your unique context. If you're a pastor, church staff member, elder, or ministry leader who believes God may be calling your church toward greater disciple multiplication, this opportunity was created for you. Key Takeaways Why awareness alone doesn't create culture change The purpose behind Mission Mapping How donor funding is removing financial barriers for churches What the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment reveals Why leadership alignment is essential for multiplication How churches can develop a customized 12-month roadmap The next step toward building a disciple-making culture Ready to Take the First Step? Complete the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment and schedule your Discovery Call today. Take the Assessment Book a Free Discovery Call Only 25 donor-sponsored Mission Mapping engagements are available. If your church is serious about becoming more intentional about disciple multiplication, don't wait. Connect with Disciples Made Website: https://www.disciplesmade.com Explore Next Steps on our Fully Alive App

    12 min
  2. Jun 24

    S5 Episode 7: The Cost of Clarity

    What happens when you finally see the truth? Throughout Season 5, we've exposed the hidden assumptions, scorecards, systems, and cultural patterns that keep many churches trapped in addition thinking. But awareness alone doesn't create change. In this episode, Jason Phelps and Brian Phipps explore the uncomfortable reality that clarity often creates tension before it creates transformation. Because once leaders see the gap between addition and multiplication, they face a difficult choice: Will they respond? Or will they retreat to what feels familiar? You'll discover why leadership teams often resist change even when they agree with the vision, why misalignment can be difficult to admit, and why courage—not information—is often the missing ingredient in multiplication. If you've ever felt the tension between what your church says it wants and what its systems actually produce, this conversation is for you. In This Episode • Why clarity often creates discomfort before it creates progress • The hidden resistance leaders experience when confronted with misalignment • Why awareness alone doesn't lead to transformation • The emotional cost of moving from addition to multiplication • How fear, familiarity, and success can keep churches stuck • The courage required to redefine success • Why multiplication is ultimately a heart issue, not merely a strategy issue • How leaders can begin responding to what God is revealing Key Quote "Clarity shows us where we need to go. Courage determines whether we'll take the next step." Reflection Questions Where might your church be unintentionally optimized for addition instead of multiplication? What tension have you been avoiding because the cost of change feels too high? What would it look like to respond courageously to what God is revealing? Next Step If you want an objective picture of how your church is currently positioned for disciple multiplication, take the free Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment: 👉 Take Assessment Here! Subscribe & Share If this episode challenged your thinking, share it with another pastor, church staff member, elder, or ministry leader. Because clarity isn't the finish line. It's the beginning.

    30 min
  3. Jun 17

    S5 Episode 6: Syndromes That Stall Multiplication (Part 3)

    What if the deepest barrier to disciple multiplication is not a lack of content, programs, theology, or community — but a culture of dependence? In Part 3 of Episode 6 of Breaking the Addition Addiction, Jason Phelps and Brian Phipps land the deeper thread underneath the five syndromes that stall disciple multiplication before it starts: the “You Need Us” Syndrome. This is the subtle, often unintended message that people cannot thrive spiritually without depending on church leaders, church programs, or the church institution to feed them and guide them every step of the way. Jason and Brian are not saying the Body of Christ does not matter. It does. They are not saying leaders do not matter. They do. They are not saying the gathered church is optional. It is a gift. But multiplication requires discipling people toward interdependence, not dependence. In this episode: Why dependent disciples do not reproduce How the “You Need Us” Syndrome runs underneath all five cultural syndromes Why church leaders must equip people to abide with Jesus for themselves How theological accuracy, classrooms, budgets, community, and familiar systems can unintentionally create dependence Why clarity creates tension for leaders How Episode 6 sets up Episode 7: The Cost of Clarity The five syndromes recap: If It Ain’t Broke Don’t Fix It Theological Accuracy The Classroom Effect Financial Handcuffs Community Is King Reflection question: Which of these syndromes is most visible in your church right now? Follow-up question: How might this syndrome be keeping people dependent instead of helping them multiply? This conversation is not about shame. It is about clarity. Because culture change starts when leaders are willing to look honestly at what their church is currently producing. • Take the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment • Explore Next Steps inside the Fully Alive by Disciples Made app This is Breaking the Addition Addiction on The Disciples Made Podcast. And it’s time to break it.

    18 min
  4. Jun 10

    S5 Episode 6: Syndromes That Stall Multiplication (Part 2)

    What if some of the best things in your church are quietly creating dependence instead of multiplication? In Part 2 of Episode 6 of Breaking the Addition Addiction, Jason Phelps and Brian Phipps continue naming the cultural syndromes that stall disciple multiplication before it starts. In Part 1, they explored the culture underneath the scorecard and named the first two syndromes: If It Ain’t Broke, Don’t Fix It and Theological Accuracy. In Part 2, they move from hidden leadership assumptions into the actual systems churches build — classrooms, budgets, and community. None of these are bad. Teaching matters. Financial stewardship matters. Community matters. But when good systems become the center, they can quietly train people to depend on the church instead of becoming mature disciples who walk with Jesus and help others do the same. In this episode: Why the Classroom Effect can produce informed Christians who never multiply How rows, experts, and knowledge transfer can unintentionally create dependency Why church budgets often reveal what we are truly building How financial pressure can handcuff multiplication Why community is a gift, but cannot become the mission How mission-forged community forms deeper and more lasting relationships The difference between gathering people into groups and sending disciples into mission This conversation is not about criticizing churches. It is about helping leaders see clearly. Because multiplication does not happen simply because we have good teaching, full rooms, balanced budgets, and strong community. Multiplication happens when disciples are equipped, released, and sent to live the mission of Jesus where they live, work, learn, and play. Take the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment This is Breaking the Addition Addiction on The Disciples Made Podcast. And it’s time to break it.

    22 min
  5. Jun 3

    S5 Episode 6: Syndromes That Stall Multiplication (Part 1)

    What if your church does not need better discipleship content? What if you already have enough sermons, studies, curriculum, programs, and theological language — but the culture is still quietly training people not to multiply? In this episode of Breaking the Addition Addiction on The Disciples Made Podcast, Jason Phelps and Brian Phipps begin naming the hidden cultural syndromes that stall disciple multiplication before it starts. This is not a conversation about criticizing churches or shaming leaders. It is an invitation to clarity. Because content alone does not change culture. Sermons alone do not shift systems. Good intentions alone do not produce multiplication. Before a church can become sober to the ways addition has shaped its culture, leaders must first become honest about how addition has shaped them personally. Brian unpacks the idea of personal sobriety before corporate sobriety and explains why many leaders are not opposed to multiplication — they have simply been formed by systems where addition felt faithful, familiar, measurable, and safe. Then Jason and Brian begin walking through the first cultural syndromes that keep churches stuck. In Part 1, Jason and Brian discuss why scorecards come from culture, why addition feels safe and familiar to church leaders, and why leaders must name their own attachment to attendance, activity, and visible momentum. They also unpack two syndromes that quietly stall multiplication: the “If It Ain’t Broke, Don’t Fix It” Syndrome and the Theological Accuracy Syndrome. Together, these conversations help leaders see why “working” is not the same as forming and multiplying disciples — and why theology, while essential, was never meant to replace the mission of making disciples. The key question is not simply, “Is our church functioning?” The deeper question is: Is our church forming and multiplying disciples? If you are a pastor, church leader, elder, staff member, or disciple-maker who senses that something in your church culture may be unintentionally reinforcing addition, this episode will help you begin naming what needs to be healed. Key Quote “You cannot heal what you refuse to name.” Reflection Question Where has addition become your personal definition of success? Take the Assessment If you want greater clarity about your church’s current disciple-making culture, take the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment in the show notes. Take the Assessment Now Listen and Subscribe Listen to Breaking the Addition Addiction on The Disciples Made Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts, and subscribe so you do not miss Part 2 of this conversation. In the next part of Episode 6, we continue naming the syndromes that stall multiplication and explore how church culture can quietly reinforce addition even when leaders sincerely desire multiplication.

    22 min
  6. May 20

    S5 Episode 4: The Gap Between Activity and Transformation

    What if your church is incredibly active, but not actually producing transformation? In this episode of Breaking the Addition Addiction, Brian Phipps and Jason Phelps talk about the gap between activity and transformation—and why programs alone do not multiply disciples. Full calendars, busy volunteers, Bible studies, classes, events, and ministry programs can all look like progress. But activity is not the same thing as formation. A church can be full of movement and still not be consistently helping people become more like Jesus. This conversation is not against programs, events, or church activity. Instead, it asks a deeper question: is all this activity actually forming people into the image of Jesus? Brian and Jason unpack why activity feels like momentum, how over-programming can unintentionally create consumerism and fragmentation, and why transformation requires more than information or participation. Real disciple-making requires intentional environments where people practice the ways of Jesus over time, in community, with obedience, accountability, and mission. If you’re a pastor, church staff member, elder, or key volunteer, this episode will help you look honestly at your church calendar, programs, and leadership conversations and ask whether your system is producing activity or forming disciples who can reproduce. Take the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment at disciplesmade.com/assessment. This is Breaking the Addition Addiction on The Disciples Made Podcast. And it’s time to break it.

    30 min
  7. May 11

    S5 Episode 3: The Powerful Deception of Successful Addition

    Season 5, Episode 3 — The Powerful Deception of Successful Addition Why Bigger Doesn’t Mean Deeper What if visible success is quietly hiding a disciple-making problem? In this episode of the Disciples Made Podcast, Brian Phipps and Jason Phelps explore one of the most dangerous tensions in modern church leadership: Addition can look so successful that leaders never stop to ask whether multiplication is actually happening. Attendance can rise. Programs can expand. Energy can increase. And yet disciple-making may still be shallow, centralized, and non-reproducing beneath the surface. Brian and Jason unpack why bigger doesn’t automatically mean deeper, how churches unintentionally confuse momentum with multiplication, and why visible growth can create false confidence if leaders are not measuring transformation, obedience, and reproduction. This conversation also explores the emotional pull of applause, why successful addition can become spiritually deceptive, and how leadership systems quietly shape what churches celebrate and reproduce. This episode is not anti-growth. It’s about learning to define growth the way Jesus did. If you’re a pastor, church leader, elder, or Disciple-Maker wrestling with how to measure real fruit, this conversation will help you examine whether your ministry is building attendance… or reproducing disciples. Take the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment: Disciples Made Assessment #DisciplesMade #BreakingTheAdditionAddiction #DiscipleMaking #ChurchLeadership #Multiplication

    45 min

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We are Disciples Made, and we multiply disciples that make the world a better place. We inspire disciple-makers to unleash disciples into the John 10:10 ”Fully Alive” life by helping them bear spiritual fruit (character) and develop spiritual gifts (calling). The result... better people making the world a better place. Join the movement!

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