Emotional Inclusion

Mollie Rogers
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Hello everyone, I’m Mollie Rogers and this is the Emotional Inclusion podcast. In my one and a half decade long career in the fashion industry and through listening to hundreds of stories of people who have navigated work whilst facing the ‘perfect storm’ on a personal level, I realized the urgent need to advocate a safe platform in the business world where, with a trained professional onboard, emotions could be heard, recognized and dealt with, for an enhanced business productivity. Building a better corporate ecosystem starts here. In the 21st century world in which we live in, companies are still forgetting that the emotional health of our employees is the very foundation of their success. What are we doing to reintegrate our employees into the workforce when they are experiencing hardships? Why are we still not taking care of our employees when we know that they are our greatest asset? Please join me in sharing conversations with leaders, culture changers, creatives, founders and CEO’s, scientists and doctors, in breaking down archaic corporate stereotypes and building a mindset and culture of Emotional Inclusion in the workforce.

  1. JAN 29

    Emotions Power Performance: Neuroscience with Paul Rochon

    Dr. Paul Rochon Dr. Paul Rochon is a Biopsychologist, Doctor in Cognitive Sciences about Sleep, State of Consciousness and Cognitive process, Master in Biology, Physiology and Neuroscience, and Master in Cognitive Psychology from the University of Bordeaux, France. He is also a clinical behaviour specialist, former director of the mental health department, and current director of the sleep center at Raffles Hospital Beijing. As well as certified in Social Cognition from the Military Academy of Lisbon (Portugal), and Cognitive Linguistics from the University of Mons (Belgium). Dr. Rochon has been practicing biopsychological counselling for 20 years, working mostly with athletes, companies, schools, and individuals. He is making science accessible to everyone with clear and easily implementable behaviour management programs. He is a certified Hypnotherapist from the American Hypnosis Association and the Hypnosis Motivation Institute, Los Angeles. He uses hypnosis for Smoking Cessation, Weight Loss, Anxiety, Guilt and Shame, Mindfulness Cognitive therapy, Sport Performance, Pain Management, and Childbirth. He is also a serial entrepreneur, certified in Executive Business Management from SKEMA Business School, with 25 years of experience in the food and beverage industry, and Director of the North Asia International Area of the Entrepreneur Organisation. In addition, as a former professional rugby player and coach, he is passionate about the impact of mindset on athletes' performance. Insights from this episode: Emotions start in the body, not the mindWellbeing is a hard skillSleep is a performance multiplierPsychological safety beats motivationEngagement rises when emotions are supportedRecovery must be designed, not assumedEnvironment matters more than programsWearables can increase anxietyPresenteeism is the real productivity drainEmotional literacy is foundationalQuotes from the show: “We are not thinking machines that feel. We are feeling machines that think.” - António R. Damásio“Emotion is not just linked to performance — it is the base of everything you do.” -  Dr. Paul Rochon“People don’t burn out from too much work. They burn out from too much threat.” -  Dr. Paul Rochon“If you are a dysregulated leader, you will create a dysregulated team.” -  Dr. Paul Rochon“When people feel safe, they perform at their full potential.” -  Dr. Paul Rochon“Presenteeism costs two to three times more than absenteeism.” -  Dr. Paul Rochon“The future of work is not resilience workshops — it’s biological and emotional skills to stay human.” -  Dr. Paul Rochon“What you can name, you can tame.” -  Dr. Sue Johnson “The best trick to have a good sleep is to wake up at the same time.” -  Dr. Paul Rochon“When people feel supported, even if they never use the support, engagement rises.” -  Dr. Paul RochonSTAY CONNECTED— Dr. Paul Rochon LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/rochonpaul/ Engineering Wellbeing https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/vC91-IoW4sLjUMNbkWpjLw Engineering Sleep https://engineeringsleep.com/   *Emotional inclusion: https://www.emotionalinclusion.com/ https://www.instagram.com/emotional_inclusion/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/emotional-inclusion/   *Get your copy of Emotional Inclusion: A Humanizing Revolution at Work: https://www.penguin.sg/book/emotional-inclusion/

    38 min

  2. 08/28/2025

    Engineering Emotional Inclusion

    Insights from this episode: Emotional inclusion is distinct from emotional intelligence: it’s about integration and practice, not just awareness.The average person spends 81,396 hours working throughout their lifetime — making sleep, the one thing we do more than work. Workplaces must make those hours meaningful and human.Neuroscience shows that we emote before we even reason; emotions are biological facts, not weaknesses.Burnout and disconnection are at alarming levels:80% of people will experience a diagnosable mental health condition.60% of employees report being emotionally detached; 19% are outright miserable.48% of workers and 53% of managers report being burned out.Five key actions to engineer emotional inclusion:Prioritize mental health support.Build action-oriented platforms for wellness.Educate teams on naming and regulating emotions.Leaders go first in modeling vulnerability.Challenge false assumptions and create psychological safety.Investing in emotional inclusion leads to stronger performance, innovation, retention, and trust.Personal wellbeing habits such as sleep, movement, meditation, and micro-moments of pause fuel sustainable performance.Quotes from the show: “Emotional intelligence is the knowing. Emotional inclusion is the doing.” “81,396 — that’s how many hours the average person spends working. Shouldn’t those hours be positive, meaningful, and human?” “Emotions are not soft. They’re biological facts.” “There is no such thing as splitting our home self from our work self — that’s a false dichotomy.” “When leaders open up, they give others permission to do the same.” “If you’re not making a difference in people’s lives, you shouldn’t be in business.” – Richard Branson“Workplaces with greater psychological safety and emotional inclusion will make it possible for everyone to contribute and thrive.” – Amy Edmondson “Let’s not just build bridges and technologies. Let’s build cultures of compassion, resilience, and humanity.”STAY CONNECTED— *Emotional inclusion: https://www.emotionalinclusion.com/ https://www.instagram.com/emotional_inclusion/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/emotional-inclusion/ *Get your copy of Emotional Inclusion: A Humanizing Revolution at Work: https://www.penguin.sg/book/emotional-inclusion/

    16 min

  3. 05/30/2024

    Ei x Dr. Kathy Pike: From Index to Action in Workplace Mental Health

    Dr. Kathy Pike Dr. Kathy Pike is the founder and past director of the WHO Center for Global Mental Health and professor of psychology at Columbia University. She is also the CEO of One Mind. Dr. Pike has international experience in global mental health discussion. She has published over 100 articles and book chapters on eating disorders, culture, psychopathology, global mental health, and mental health in the workplace. A long-time advocate for increasing access to mental health services, Dr. Pike has provided consultation on mental health policy to Japanese parliamentary representatives and to the United States Mental Health Policy Organizations. She’s also committed to supporting workplaces in their efforts to address mental health in the workplace. As such, she consults with global corporations with the aim of integrating best practices to reduce the burden of mental illness and enhance mental health and wellbeing in today’s rapidly changing workplace.   Insights from this episode: Challenges in addressing the complexity of issues that need to change regarding mental health in the workplaceChanging cultures and transformation through structural and systemic changesMental Health at Work Index for Leaders and Organizations3 Ps Framework: Protection, Promotion, ProvisionStrategies at One Mind at WorkAI as an aid for Mental Health Professionals  Quotes from the show: “Taking care of our mental health is, it’s a verb. It’s not a noun. It's dynamic and it’s changing. And so this idea of emotional inclusion that you’ve put forward, I think is one that’s really powerful because it means it’s an invitation.” - Dr. Kathy Pike“We have this false dichotomy that what’s good for business is not good for mental health and what’s good for mental health is not good for business. And that’s just flat out wrong. Data is overwhelmingly clear that when we take care of our people, when you take care of people’s mental health and wellbeing, it’s good for the people, it’s good for their teams, it’s good for their families, it’s good for the community, it’s good for the workplace.” - Dr. Kathy Pike“Mental health and wellbeing and focusing on these issues in the workplace, you have to continuously demonstrate that it matters. You have to prove and continue to promote buy-in within the organizations. So you need to be able to demonstrate that what you’re doing is having an impact on what you’re aiming to impact.” - Dr. Kathy Pike“Emotional intelligence is all about knowing how to navigate our emotions and the emotions of the people we interact with. Whilst emotional inclusion on the other hand, puts emotional intelligence into action.” - Mollie Rogers Jean De Dieu“Inclusion is a verb and being inclusive of each other’s emotional realm, as you and I are so aligned with, is something that we need to do.” - Mollie Rogers Jean De Dieu“Nothing will replace who we are as human beings but how AI can bring in additional insights and broaden our perspectives based on the humanity that resides within all of us is going to be fascinating.” - Mollie Rogers Jean De Dieu“Emotional intelligence versus emotional inclusion, it’s one thing for leaders to know, it’s another for leaders to do. And leaders are really building capacity around mental health and wellbeing at the most progressive organizations.” - Dr. Kathy Pike  Stay connected: Dr. Kathy Pike LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleenmpike/ Mental Health at Work Index https://mentalhealthindex.org/   Emotional inclusion https://www.emotionalinclusion.com/ https://www.instagram.com/emotional_inclusion/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/emotional-inclusion/

    46 min

  4. 10/18/2023

    Stigma: An Excerpt from the NEW BOOK

    In this episode, Mollie Jean De Dieu, the founder of Emotional Inclusion, offers us a glimpse into her latest book, "Emotional Inclusion: A Humanizing Revolution at Work". She recounts real-life workplace stories that illustrate the challenges people face and how fostering emotional inclusion can lead to improvements in the workplace for everyone. Insights from this episode: Stigma in the workplaceEffects of workplace experience on performanceFears and struggles from expectationsAnxiety in work influencing personal lifePressure from societal normsImportance of seeking helpPower of authenticity and vulnerabilityQuotes from the show: “Emotional inclusion invites others to look into our humanness. Being emotionally inclusive means being emotionally and mutually accepting of one another.”“The mind-body connection is undeniable when it comes to discussing mental health or emotional wellness holistically.”“There is an urgency to look at stigma as a gateway to creating emotionally inclusive workplace cultures.”“Emotional inclusion invites us to change the core of our discriminating attitude and false assumptions when labeling each other's humanity.”“There is no question that emotionally inclusive companies communicate tools and strategies to address and spot anxiety, depression, stress, and mental illness overall.”“The stigma of mental illness is one of the top reasons that people do not receive care.”“Emotional inclusion puts emotional intelligence into action in a medicalized, confidential, and purpose driven way.”“Whichever way we choose to tackle emotional inclusion, the pull is just greater than us at this stage.”“Emotional inclusion calls for the dialogue to be deepened, and the stigma to be weakened.”Stay connected: Emotional inclusion https://www.emotionalinclusion.com/ https://www.instagram.com/emotional_inclusion/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/emotional-inclusion/ Get your copy of the book: https://amzn.to/402BNgj "Emotional Inclusion: A Humanizing Revolution at Work" is published by Penguin Random House

    24 min

  5. 06/29/2023

    Ei x Sephora

    Deborah Yeh Deborah Yeh is the Global Chief Purpose Officer for Sephora. In this newly created global role, Deborah works across all teams to define Sephora’s Purpose and the resulting sustainability and social impact priorities. Since joining Sephora in 2012, she has been instrumental in building Sephora’s reputation with a strong sense of purpose, and she is passionate about bringing Sephora’s values to life in a meaningful and authentic way for all stakeholders. Recognized for her steadfast and fearless leadership across notable industry awards such as Business Insider’s Most Innovative CMOs and Gold House’s A100 for her work in the Asian American community, Deborah has helped transform Sephora into an inspiring, inclusive and educational beauty destination. In 2019, Deborah led the launch of Sephora America’s award- winning “We Belong to Something Beautiful” brand campaign, and she has demonstrated relentless commitment to actions in favor of greater diversity and equity in beauty, including Sephora’s first-of-its-kind national Racial Bias in Retail Study, which was designed to measure the issue of racially biased experiences in U.S. retail and identify solutions to end unfair treatments. Prior to joining Sephora, Deborah led marketing strategy and planning for leading brands and retailers, most notably for Old Navy and Target, and she currently sits on the board of L.L. Bean. Deborah attended Harvard University, majoring in Psychology. She currently lives in Paris with her husband, two children and two cats. Insights from this episode: Company purpose & Personal purposeOrganizational and employee wellnessChallenges in the retail industryWellness and mental health through a medical lensMedicalized care and safety and emotional attentionEmpathetic and great leadershipCulture of care and belongingQuotes from the show: “Our best assets in almost every company are the intellect and passion of our employees.” - Deborah Yeh“I think if we could nurture these bonds on a more authentic platform, surely enough our companies would truly benefit from it on a macro scale.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“Emotional inclusion is such a powerful accelerant to more fulfilling and productive relationships including in the workplace.” - Deborah Yeh“Inclusion is an action.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“Belonging is actually a powerful unlock because that is where you get the feelings. That is where you get the feeling of connectedness. That connectedness is anchored in support and acceptance in psychological safety that comes from belonging.” - Deborah Yeh“There can be no connection and thus belonging if there is no emotional inclusion or psychological safety.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“A full practice has to think about belonging and has to be thinking about emotional inclusion.” - Deborah Yeh“What you’re challenging us to do is to think about a broader set of forces that we can bring into our practices as leaders. Forces like caring, empathy, support, motivation. All these things are really powerful forms of fuel as a leader to open up and enable others to be successful.” - Deborah Yeh“When you open up to the world, the world opens up to you.” - Deborah Yeh“What I think is so powerful about the concept of emotional inclusion is that it reinvigorates the power of the individual to make a difference.” - Deborah Yeh“We’re all born leaders, paving the way for a better future for all and hopefully a better now for everyone.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“I think it's very illuminating and freeing to admit that there is no uncomfortableness in admitting our pain and our humanity in the workplace.” - Mollie Jean De DieuStay connected: Deborah Yeh LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahyeh/   Emotional inclusion https://www.emotionalinclusion.com/ https://www.instagram.com/emotional_inclusion/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/emotional-inclusion/

    39 min

  6. 04/26/2023

    Ei x Alignment with Hortense Le Gentil

    Hortense Le Gentil Hortense is a global executive leadership coach and the author of the widely applauded “Aligned: Connecting Your True Self with the Leader You’re Meant to Be.” She works with CEOs and other senior executives around the world to help them lead with authenticity and close the gap between the leader they are and the leader they want to be. She is a certified Marshall Goldsmith Stakeholder Centered™ coach and part of MG100 Coaches. Hortense’s executive coaching is informed by her 30 years in business, working across a number of industries—including media consulting, advertising, and entrepreneurship. She has been working on and delivering executive leadership programs at various Fortune 500 companies and for CEO Perspectives. She is ranked #5 on the Global Gurus list by World Management Global Gurus and was a 2021 nominee of the Thinkers 50 Coaching and Mentoring Awards. She is a contributor to Harvard Business Review and ThriveGlobal.com. Her thought-leadership has been featured in Forbes, Fast Company, Inc. and Business Insider. Insights from this episode: Workplace cultural differences Being aligned and connected with oneselfDifferent roles as a leaderFears within the workplaceLimitations and mind trapsImproving connection with your teamLeadership vs ManagementQuotes from the show: “How you can get aligned is to take the time to reflect, and to think about what is important for you; what drives you, what gives you energy, how you want to be remembered as a leader.” - Hortense Le Gentil“We have gained the awareness that breathing more humanity within our workplace is direly needed, and that has of course shifted how leaders themselves lead as a consequence.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“The concept of alignment and unlocking yourself is really to free yourself from what’s holding you back to be who you are and the leader you really can be.” - Hortense Le Gentil“Emotions are really the gateway to each other’s humanness in so many ways.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“In fact emotion, empathy, it’s really the way to connect with people.” - Hortense Le Gentil“Showcasing our humanness, our emotional realms if you will, doesn’t mean being on full display talking about and verbalizing every single emotion. But it’s about showing up as our true authentic selves and saying “It’s okay to be human. It’s safe to be human.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“Everything begins with you. With your emotions, with who you are, who you want to be, how you want to show up, how you want to be remembered.” - Hortense Le Gentil  Stay connected: Hortense Le Gentil https://hortenselegentil.com/   Emotional inclusion https://www.emotionalinclusion.com/ https://www.instagram.com/emotional_inclusion/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/emotional-inclusion/

    46 min

  7. 01/26/2023

    Ei x Shell: Emotional Inclusion In Action

    Lyn Lee Lynn is the first global Asian female Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion officer to execute her job out of Asia for Shell. In terms of DE&I, Shell has a bold goal to become one of the most diverse and inclusive organizations in the world. With 20 years and counting at Shell, Lyn champions the DE&I priorities, focusing very much on accelerating the progress of gender balance in senior leadership and stem roles, ethnicity and local national representation. Lyn is passionate and committed to driving workplace inclusion of people with disabilities, LGBTQIA+, and promoting care and destigmatizing mental illness. She represents Shell as a company which embraces a diverse global workforce to build a strong culture of inclusion, respect and high performance. Insights from this episode: DE&IDifferentiation of Emotional Inclusion and Psychological SafetyStories and human connectionMental Illness and seeking professional helpRespect and empathyEmotionally inclusive leadershipMental health illnesses and medical care and treatmentLeadership tipsShell’s “I’m Not OK” initiative (to promote open and honest conversations about mental health)Quotes from the show: “Inclusion, I think for me it’s really feeling that you are part of that ecosystem, that when I go to work I know that I will be supported. It’s about knowing that I’ll be valued for my contributions and that I’ll be valued for the person that I am. So when I go to work I feel safe. And being able to be myself, I can thrive.” - Lyn Lee“Emotional inclusion for me would mean that no matter who I am that day, whether I'm having a good or bad time, that I can feel almost that the people that I work with have my back.” - Lyn Lee“Psychological safety is really being in an arena that allows you to be safe whilst Emotional inclusion really is about the ability to bring your full self at work with the emotionality component that we all have ingrained within all of us.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“All of us have a story and when we share that, we connect people because we all have at some fundamental level, we all need that connection; the ability to hear other people’s stories so that it gives us a voice as well to tell our stories.” - Lyn Lee“People really need to hear that navigating or going through difficulty is not an end-all and be-all and that we can survive it all, and we can also still be able to have a career.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“You have all these vented emotions that you are carrying, worries that you are carrying, and all of these add to an emotional burden and that burden is heavy. It’s heavy unless you share it, unless someone is able to give you feedback. And that’s actually what’s needed in a major crisis like that in terms of dealing with mental health challenges.” - Lyn Lee“Company leadership plays such an important role in creating an environment where employees have the chance to take time off to care for themselves and where worker well-being is really emphasized.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“For companies to truly put mental health at the centerfold of their agendas, really understanding the full scope of our employees’ humanity both the physical and the mental,  and really looking at insurances too or allocated budget, to care for our employees mental welfare because as we know mind and body are so interconnected.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“The first thing that is the most difficult is having the ability to talk about this [mental health]. This is the most important. This is the start to recovery, the start to being better, the start to gaining back yourself.” - Lyn LeeStay connected: Lyn Lee https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyn-lee-981ba03/   Emotional inclusion https://www.emotionalinclusion.com/ https://www.instagram.com/emotional_inclusion/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/emotional-inclusion/

    53 min

  8. 10/14/2022

    Ei x AXA : Mental Health & Insurances with Gordon Watson

    Gordon Watson He is the CEO for AXA Asia, an experienced and energetic leader with a strong track record of delivering results. He is also a member of the group’s management committee. Gordon’s career in the insurance industry spans more than 30 years, including as regional CEO for AIA, as well as leading the group’s corporate solutions, partnership distribution, and AIA Vitality businesses from 2011 to 2017; he was also regional president for AIG Life in Japan and Korea from 2008 to 2010. He has held many key senior roles based out of London, New York, Nairobi, Dubai, Tokyo, Seoul, and Hong Kong. Gordon holds an MBA from the University of Hull in the UK and is a fellow of the UK’s Chartered Insurance Institute and the Society of Marketing. He is also the founding chair of Shared Value Project (SVP) in Hong Kong, where he works with private companies to tackle social issues. Insights from this episode: Mental health visibilityEthisphere Institute & One MindMental health Index of best practices for companies’ self assessmentCreating mental health culture in companiesLeaders’ role and responsibility in mental health company practicesSustainability of mental health practices in companiesInclusion of mental health in InsurancesQuotes from the show: “Each person, to be all you can be in a company needs to come in, needs to bring the best of themselves to work and be able to thrive there.” - Gordon Watson“For me as a CEO, we want high performance, but people need to come in and they need to feel comfortable that they can thrive.” - Gordon Watson“If you really get mental health culture right, it should be robust and strong enough for everyone.” - Gordon Watson“How can we create an overall robust mental health culture that really allows employees to bring the best of themselves to work everyday no matter who they are and really have a meritocracy and a team that supports each other?” - Gordon Watson“We really have the moral obligation to look beyond and exercise deep awareness in that realm because a lot can be hidden behind a smile.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“Emotional inclusion, it’s really all about the doing because inclusion is an action.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“There is such a stigma behind mental health but we need to be walking our talk in making ripples of change and allowing there to be a work landscape for the generations to come where they can truly bring their full selves at work.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“Unless we see employee mental well-being through a medical lens, it cannot be sustainable.” - Mollie Jean De Dieu“If you look after the mental health of your employees it’s going to affect your business in a very positive way; morale, engagement, etc.” - Gordon WatsonStay connected: Gordon Watson https://www.linkedin.com/in/gordontwatson/ Emotional inclusion https://www.emotionalinclusion.com/ https://www.instagram.com/emotional_inclusion/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/emotional-inclusion/

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Hello everyone, I’m Mollie Rogers and this is the Emotional Inclusion podcast. In my one and a half decade long career in the fashion industry and through listening to hundreds of stories of people who have navigated work whilst facing the ‘perfect storm’ on a personal level, I realized the urgent need to advocate a safe platform in the business world where, with a trained professional onboard, emotions could be heard, recognized and dealt with, for an enhanced business productivity. Building a better corporate ecosystem starts here. In the 21st century world in which we live in, companies are still forgetting that the emotional health of our employees is the very foundation of their success. What are we doing to reintegrate our employees into the workforce when they are experiencing hardships? Why are we still not taking care of our employees when we know that they are our greatest asset? Please join me in sharing conversations with leaders, culture changers, creatives, founders and CEO’s, scientists and doctors, in breaking down archaic corporate stereotypes and building a mindset and culture of Emotional Inclusion in the workforce.

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  • Creator
    Mollie Rogers
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    28
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © 2021 - Emotional Inclusion
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