What happens when your life is built around serving others—but the weight of that responsibility begins showing up in your body, your family, and the parts of yourself most people never see? In this episode of unMASKing with Male Educators, Ashanti sits down with Kingmakers of Oakland Founder and CEO Christopher P. Chatmon to explore Black male identity, brotherhood, leadership, vulnerability, health, ancestral wisdom, education, and what it means to build a life around sacred purpose without losing yourself in the process. Chris reflects on the people and experiences that shaped him—from being adopted into a family that taught him unconditional love and community, to raising three sons, becoming a grandfather, building movements for Black boys and young men, and learning that even leaders who appear strong, visionary, and grounded can carry tremendous weight behind the mask. This conversation dives into: How Chris’s adoptive parents shaped his understanding of identity, community, education, and unconditional love What it means to know “who you are” Why his life’s work has centered on helping young Black men recognize the greatness they already possess The importance of ancestral intelligence, Sankofa, and understanding the past in order to move forward Why leadership can be both a blessing and a tremendous weight The doubt and insecurity that can exist behind visionary leadership What Chris learned from navigating funding losses and having to lay off people he considered family Losing his younger brother after a long struggle with alcoholism and learning how love and boundaries can exist together How a heart attack forced him to reconsider stress, mindfulness, rest, and the way he had been modeling leadership Why leaders must learn to schedule their wellness with the same intentionality they schedule their work How becoming a grandfather changed his relationship with presence, joy, and the pace of life The challenge of working alongside your own children while allowing them to develop identities separate from your leadership Why young people do not need to be fixed—they need environments that help draw out what is already inside them Why proximity matters when adults are trying to understand a generation growing up with technology constantly in their hands How art, music, creativity, culture, and joy can become powerful gateways into deeper learning Why educators must lead with love, belonging, relationship, and belief in young people Ashanti and Chris explore the hidden weight of leadership, redefining strength as self-awareness, community, and care. Chris also challenges educators to see Black boys not as problems to fix, but as young people to listen to, affirm, and empower. A powerful conversation on leadership, wellness, belonging, Black male achievement, and creating spaces rooted in love and possibility. Connect with Christopher P. Chatmon Kingmakers of Oakland: https://www.kingmakersofoakland.org Podcast / YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@kingmakersofoakland Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/babachris/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/babachris/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-chatmon-2429b511/ Connect with Ashanti Branch Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks X: https://x.com/BranchSpeaks LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/ Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/ Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club Help us continue creating spaces for young men to be seen, heard, and supported: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/branch-speaks/support Connect with Ever Forward Club Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everforwardclub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/everforwardclub X: https://x.com/everforwardclub LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/ #UnMASKingWithMaleEducators #MaleEducators #LeadersStrenght #EducatorWellness #EmotionalHealth #LeadershipAndVulnerability