APCDA Podcast

Felicity Brown and Samantha Ng

APCDA Podcast is an enrichment platform for association members to pursue continued learning and development. For questions and comments, email podcast@asiapacificCDA.org.

  1. 4d ago

    APCDA Podcast Season 6 - Ep. 4

    Episode Summary What happens after a first-generation college student enters the professional world? In this episode of the APCDA Podcast, executive coach, leadership consultant, and author Michele Y. Hoover introduces the concept of the first-generation professional—someone who enters the workplace without inherited knowledge of how professional environments operate. Drawing from her own journey as the daughter of South Korean immigrants, Michele explores the unwritten rules of professional life, including why good work rarely speaks entirely for itself, why relationships are part of the job, and why the criteria for advancement constantly change. She also discusses how first-generation professionals can advocate for themselves without abandoning their cultural values, how educators and employers can better support them, and how experiences once viewed as disadvantages can become powerful professional strengths. The conversation also offers a preview of Michele’s upcoming book, From First to Fearless, and reflects on storytelling, identity, family responsibility, mentorship, and the chance experiences that shape our careers. Episode Chapters 00:00 — Welcome to On the Mic With Thought LeadersMeet Michele Y. Hoover, executive coach, leadership consultant, former journalist, and founder of PEM Leadership. 02:20 — What Is a First-Generation Professional?Michele explains how first-generation professionals enter the workplace without inherited knowledge of its expectations, relationships, language, and unwritten rules. 04:00 — Realising “It Wasn’t Just Me”Michele shares how reflecting on her own difficult career journey led her to interview other first-generation professionals and discover common patterns in their experiences. 07:15 — Growing Up as the First American in Her FamilyFrom making appointments to completing official forms at a young age, Michele reflects on how responsibility, representation, and early independence shaped her professional identity. 11:10 — Connecting Journalism, Education, and LeadershipMichele connects the dots between her early career as a journalist and her later work in executive education through three recurring themes: people, storytelling, and communication. 14:40 — Three Unwritten Rules of Professional LifeYour work does not always speak for itself, relationships are not extracurricular, and the rules for advancement change at every career level. 18:45 — Preparing First-Generation Students for the WorkplaceThe discussion explores what universities can do beyond helping students secure their first jobs—including teaching self-advocacy, relationship-building, feedback, visibility, and workplace navigation. 22:30 — The Hidden Strengths of First-Generation ProfessionalsMichele highlights resourcefulness, observation, problem-solving, loyalty, intrinsic motivation, empathy, and a strong sense of responsibility toward family and community. 26:15 — Self-Advocacy Without Losing Your Cultural IdentityHow can professionals advocate for themselves while respecting values such as humility, hierarchy, collectivism, and family responsibility? Michele offers culturally congruent ways to become visible. 32:05 — Turning Career Advice Into Practical ActionMichele explains why generic advice such as “network more” is often ineffective and how coaching, role-playing, scripts, and step-by-step guidance can help people approach difficult professional conversations. 35:10 — Writing, Vulnerability, and Helping People Feel SeenMichele reflects on moving from clinical thought leadership toward more personal writing—and why sharing her own experiences allows readers to recognise themselves in her work. 40:40 — From First to FearlessMichele introduces her upcoming book and explains how first-generation professionals can reframe experiences previously viewed as disadvantages into leadership capabilities and professional superpowers. 48:45 — A Chance Event That Changed EverythingMichele recalls receiving a journalism scholarship at 17 and travelling alone to San Francisco—an unexpected experience that expanded her understanding of the world and what was possible for her career. 52:55 — The Career Lesson We Wish We Had Learned at 22The episode closes with Michele’s question for the next guest: “What’s something you understand about how careers work now that you wish somebody had explained to you when you were 22?”

    APCDA Podcast Season 6 - Ep. 4
  2. Apr 21

    APCDA Podcast Season 6 - Ep. 2

    Speaker's Information:Mark Franklin (M.Ed,P.Eng) leads the team at CareerCycles, a career management practice based in Canada, that has helped 5000+ people manage their careers for the future. He co-founded narrative tools leader, OneLifeTools, through which he co-authored the Who You Are Matters! game and Online Storyteller platform. Mark teaches career management at University of Toronto and received the Stu Conger Award for Leadership in Career Development. Mark consulted with hundreds of organizations in his earlier industrial engineering career. Changing careers, he earned a Masters in counseling psychology and led student services initiatives in two of Canada’s largest universities. Always seeking ways to unlock the power of storytelling, Mark hosts the Career Buzz podcast and radio show showcasing inspiring career stories. His career insights have appeared in Canadian media including Globe and Mail, National Post, CBC and CTV.   0000 Introduction02:11 Who is Mark Franklin - A Deep Listener in a Wounded World 04:50 From a Professional Engineer to a Career Practitioner7:55 Transition to starting out Career Cycles 12:30 Why "Career" is mostly misinterpreted 15:45  What is a Narrative Approach 22:12 One Life Tools Framework for a Holistic Assessment32:25 Encouraging Clients with their What's Next37:23 Thriving in the AI Era41:25 Doing Well AND Doing Good45:50 Building a Community of Story Listeners48:40 AI Stewardship Programme52:30 What brings hope for Mark54:50 Cross-pollinating #CDBee movement 58:30 Question for the next speaker1:00:50 Wrap-up from the co-hosts Citations mentioned: Stebleton, M. J., & Franklin, M. (2023). Applying narrative approaches to support undergraduate career decision-making. In M. Buford, M. Sharp, & M. J. Stebleton (Eds.), Mapping the future of undergraduate career education: Equitable career learning, development, and preparation for a new world of work (pp. 183-199). Routledge. Franklin, M., Yanar, B., & Feller, R. (2015). Narrative method of practice increases curiousity and exploration, psychological capital, and personal growth leading to career clarity: A retrospective outcome study. The Canadian Journal of Career Development, 14(2), 12-23.Franklin, M., & Feller, R. (2017). Using the One Life Tools framework: From clarification to intentional exploration with East Asian female. In L.Busacca & M. Rehfuss (Eds.), Postmodern career counseling: A handbook of culture, context and cases (pp. 273-284). American Counseling Association. Stebleton, M. J. (2010). Narrative-based career counseling perspectives in times of change: An analysis of strengths and limitations. Journal of Employment Counseling, 47(2), 64-78. https://doi.org/https://doi.org/10.1002/j.2161-1920.2010.tb00091.xStebleton, M. J., Franklin, M., Lee, C., & Kaler, L. S. (2019). Not just for undergraduates: Examining a university narrative-based career management course for Engineering graduate students. Canadian Journal of Career Development, 18(2), 64-77. https://cjcd-rcdc.ceric.ca/index.php/cjcd/article/view/32

    APCDA Podcast Season 6 - Ep. 2
  3. Mar 31

    APCDA Podcast Season 6 - Ep. 1

    00:00 Introduction00:50 Who is Dr Candy Ho and what drives her05:10 Sharing on the "Career Influencer" concept - Every conversation can be a career conversation11:11 Life-career as a constellation of one's many life roles, paid and unpaid12:50 Why is career development so important 16:55 Working with young adults - Not all who wander are lost22:11 The wisdom of indecision24:10 Sitting with the discomfort of the unknowns and uncertainties30:30 Dr. Candy Ho's current works32:27 Working with educators to incorporate the United Nations 17 SDGs into the curriculum 39:15 Career service providers in the age of AI43:30 What is giving you joy at this current phase of your life49:00 Bee as a career metaphor50:30 Question for the next speaker52:00 Wrap-up from the co-hosts Ho, C. T. Y. (2024). Enhancing a career development curriculum by embedding the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals. Journal of the National Institute for Career Education and Counselling, 53(1), 24-35. https://doi.org/https://doi.org/10.20856/jnicec.5304 Ho, C., & Stebleton, M. J. (2024). Not all who wander are lost: Redefining career exploration and indecision in undergraduate students. Journal of College and Character, 25(2), 196-204. https://doi.org/10.1080/2194587X.2024.2326220 Hoover, A. (2026, March 3).  RIP Resumes. Business Insider.https://www.businessinsider.com/hiring-managers-arent-reading-resumes-slop-2026-3 Klotz, A. (2026). Jolted: Why we quit, when to stay, and why it matters. Penguin Random House.  Krumboltz, J. D. (1992). The wisdom of indecision. Journal of Vocational Behavior, 41(3), 239-244. https://doi.org/https://doi.org/10.1016/0001-8791(92)90025-U Michel, J. P. (2024). The world needs you: A new mindset for student career exploration. JP Michel.  Stebleton, M. J., & Ho, C. (2023). Career development is everyone’s responsibility: Envisioning educators as career influencers. Journal of College and Character, 24(3), 189-196. https://doi.org/10.1080/2194587X.2023.2224577https://padlet.com/candyho11181/share-your-cdbee-story-dufrpcxx4yhae439

    APCDA Podcast Season 6 - Ep. 1

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APCDA Podcast is an enrichment platform for association members to pursue continued learning and development. For questions and comments, email podcast@asiapacificCDA.org.