Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam

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Parenting Teens Got You Stressed? 🎙️ Dr. Cam—The Teen Translator—Has Answers! Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam is the go-to podcast for parents who are ready to get real about raising teenagers. Hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell—adolescent psychologist, certified parenting coach, and mom of a teen—this podcast is all about honest conversations that dive deep into the challenges parents face and providing actionable solutions that actually work. Dr. Cam doesn’t just talk theories—she shares real-life insights and strategies based on over a decade of experience and the struggles she faces as a mom herself. Every episode offers practical, science-backed solutions to help you understand your teen, improve communication, and build a stronger relationship. Whether you’re dealing with mood swings, defiance, anxiety, or social media issues, you’ll find easy-to-apply advice that makes a difference. No interviews here—just authentic conversations that get to the heart of what parents are really dealing with. With a mix of expert tips and Dr. Cam’s own relatable stories, you’ll walk away with the tools you need to tackle even the toughest teen challenges with confidence. #Parenting #ParentingTips #ParentingAdvice #ParentingLife #ParentingSupport #TeenParenting #Teenagers #RaisingTeens #ParentingTeens #TeenBehavior #TeenCommunication #TeenMotivation #TeenDevelopment #AdolescentDevelopment #ParentTeenConnection #TeenMentalHealth #DrCam #TheTeenTranslator

  1. 9h ago

    How to Get Your Middle Schooler to Cooperate (What Great Teachers Know)

    Middle schooler won't listen, won't cooperate, or won't get out of bed without a fight? Here's the surprise. That same kid is often engaged, funny, and working hard in a great teacher's classroom. In this episode of Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam, veteran middle school teacher Sean Kane shares what great teachers know about getting middle schoolers to cooperate, and how you can use it at home. Most of us treat the middle school years like bad weather. We keep our heads down and wait for it to pass. Sean thinks that's the biggest missed opportunity we have. After 14 years in the classroom, time as a dean of students, and raising three sons, he's seen that middle schoolers don't change because of more criticism or bigger consequences. They change when they start to feel capable. In this episode you'll learn: 1. Why your middle schooler seems like a different person, and what's going on underneath 2. How comparison and constant correction feed a deficit mindset 3. Why middle schoolers need more praise, not less 4. How to stack small wins (and why a 71% clean room is progress) 5. Why reflective questions work better than lectures 6. How to step back so your teen learns "I can figure this out"   👉 Want your middle schooler to cooperate without the daily battles? Parenting Teens Academy gives you a step-by-step plan to rebuild connection and strengthen your influence, plus you can ask me questions directly every day. Join here: https://www.skool.com/parenting-teens-academy/about   Chapters: 00:00 Why middle school is the most misunderstood age 01:12 Why Sean Kane chose to teach middle school 04:34 Puberty and the emotional side of middle school 07:18 How comparison creates a deficit mindset 10:37 What great teachers know about middle schoolers 13:33 How small wins build self-efficacy 16:07 Why praise matters more in middle school, not less 18:24 Why parents struggle to let go of punishment 21:50 Why boundaries only work with trust 24:23 Why success is the best consequence 27:04 How reflection builds self-awareness 30:07 How to stop overfunctioning for your teen 33:06 Responding to emotional and behavior struggles 36:37 How to build collaboration with your middle schooler 40:19 Why teens need to feel seen 43:12 The power of authentic connection 47:30 From punishment to relationship-based discipline 50:32 Where to find Sean Kane Resources mentioned: Dr. Shefali Tsabary's work on conscious parenting Autopilot, Sean's upcoming course: growthmindsetparenting.com Connect with Sean Kane: Website and newsletter: growthmindsetparenting.com Instagram: @growthmindsetparenting TikTok: @growthmindsetparenting Connect with Dr. Cam Caswell: Website: www.askdrcam.com Instagram: @drcamcaswell YouTube: Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam 🎧 Enjoying the show? Leave a rating and review. It helps other parents find the support they need. 🔔 Follow the show so you never miss a new episode. About the show: Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam is hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell, an adolescent psychologist and certified parenting coach. Each episode gives you practical strategies, expert advice, and real-world insight to build a stronger relationship with your teen. What's one thing your middle schooler did right this week?

  2. Sep 29

    How to Be Strict but Fair With Your Teenager (Lessons from Single Dad of 3)

    When a teen gets defiant or starts with the back talk, most of us push harder. More rules, louder voice, fewer explanations. And the harder we push, the further they pull away or shut down completely. 👉 Want to stay in charge without the yelling? Inside Parenting Teens Academy, parents trade shouting for calm, earn their teen's respect, and go from walking on eggshells to enjoying their teen again. Try it free for 7 days at askdrcam.com/academy José Rolón, known as NYC Gay Dad, raised his son and twin daughters as a single dad for ten years. He's the first LGBTQ dad on the cover of Parents Latina and co-host of the Love Take Two podcast. In this episode, he shares how he stays strict and fair without the yelling.   IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN HOW TO: Find the one setting where a teen who won't talk finally opens up Understand the real reason your disrespectful teen goes from 0 to 100 Know what to say instead of "because I said so" when defiance hits Use the one thing that earns your teen's respect faster than stricter rules   RESOURCES MENTIONED José Rolón: @NYCGayDad Love Take Two podcast   CONNECT WITH DR. CAM CASWELL Website: AskDrCam.com Instagram: @DrCamCaswell    ABOUT THE SHOW Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam is hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell, an adolescent psychologist and certified parenting coach. Each episode gives you practical strategies, expert advice, and real-world insight to build a stronger relationship with your teen. ⭐ If this episode helped, share it with a parent who needs it and leave a rating and review. It helps other parents find the show. 🔔 Follow the show so you never miss an episode. Thanks for listening. See you next week! Dr. Cam

  3. Sep 22

    Why Is My Teen So Quiet? How to Get Them Talking Again

    "I'm only trying to help, but every question makes my teen go quieter." When your teen won't talk, what looks like defiance may be a sign they don't feel heard. The harder we push, fix, or force connection, the further they often pull away or shut down. 👉 Want your teen to open up to you again? Inside Parenting Teens Academy, parents learn what to say when their teen shuts down, trade guessing for calm, and go from walking on eggshells to enjoying their teen again. Try it free for 7 days In this episode, I sit down with Rachel Martin, Chief Operating Officer of the Born This Way Foundation, co-founded by Lady Gaga and her mother, Cynthia Bissett Germanotta. Rachel shares what teens need to feel safe opening up, and how to change the conversation starting today. If your teen's silence comes with signs of hopelessness or talk of self-harm, reach out to a mental health professional right away. In the US, call or text 988 anytime.   IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN Why your teen shuts down when you try to help The one thing missing when a packed schedule still feels lonely What to do instead of forcing connection when screen time spikes How talks about mental health can weaken or rebuild trust   EPISODE CHAPTERS 00:00 Why teens go quiet, with Rachel Martin 02:03 Inside the Born This Way Foundation 04:41 The social connection challenge for teens 06:23 Why every teen's social life looks different 08:57 What third spaces are and why teens need them 11:34 Low-pressure places where teens connect 14:36 When cost gets in the way 15:29 How unsafe environments affect teens 22:50 Building connection at home 26:34 Why teens need a trusted adult 28:57 How to talk openly about mental health 30:20 Making it a two-way relationship 31:50 Key takeaway: community and curiosity 32:31 How to connect with Rachel and the foundation   RESOURCES MENTIONED Be There Certificate Born This Way Foundation Kindness in Community Fund Ryan Bartel Foundation Lambert House Jack.org Hopelab   CONNECT WITH DR. CAM CASWELL Website: AskDrCam.com Instagram: @DrCamCaswell Parenting Teens Academy   ABOUT THE SHOW Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam is hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell, an adolescent psychologist and certified parenting coach. Each episode gives you practical strategies, expert advice, and real-world insight to build a stronger relationship with your teen. ⭐ If this episode helped, share it with a parent who needs it and leave a rating and review. It helps other parents find the show. 🔔 Follow the show so you never miss an episode. Thanks for listening. See you next week! Dr. Cam

  4. Sep 15

    Why Your Teen Hides Things From You (and What to Do Instead)

    Is your teen hiding things from you? It can feel like the tighter we hold on, the faster they pull away. Strict rules, phone bans, and grounding can seem like the safest way to protect our teens. But often they just teach teens to hide things better. 👉 Want to stay close without the power struggles? Inside Parenting Teens Academy, parents learn to loosen control without losing their footing, keep their teen talking, and become the safe place their teen keeps coming back to. Try it free for 7 days In this episode, I sit down with Zara Kadir, a child, adolescent, and family psychotherapist, parenting coach, and mom of two. Zara explains why teens don't dislike us, they dislike having an agenda pushed into every interaction. We talk about why taking the phone often backfires, what to say instead of an automatic "no," and how to respond to mistakes so your teen keeps telling you the truth. Your job isn't to stop your teen from making mistakes. It's to be the person they call when they do. Teens need a safe home base, a place they can explore from and always come back to.   WHAT YOU'LL LEARN Why teens hide things from their parents, and what works better than more rules What to say instead of an automatic "no" Why taking the phone away often backfires, and how to work together instead How to respond to mistakes so your teen keeps telling you the truth How to rebuild trust if you've been leaning on control   EPISODE CHAPTERS 00:00 Meet Zara Kadir 02:47 What parents get wrong about teens 05:01 Why overprotecting teens backfires 07:02 How to change course as a parent 09:39 Parenting in the digital age 12:18 Supporting your teen's identity and exploration 15:24 Handling teen behavior without overreacting 18:09 How the teen brain makes decisions 20:09 Supporting teens through mistakes 22:09 Creating a safe space to explore 23:10 Balancing freedom and connection 24:22 Owning your parenting mistakes 25:00 The power of a thoughtful response 26:19 Understanding teen brain development 27:23 Teaching respect and empathy online 28:09 How to start changing your relationship 29:08 Getting into your teen's interests 30:09 Why the relationship comes first 31:04 Collaborative parenting and dialogue 32:00 Resources and final tips   RESOURCES MENTIONED Zara's courses on awkward conversations (puberty, periods, porn, and more): use code CAM for 20% off   CONNECT WITH ZARA KADIR Instagram: @thetherapyshed   CONNECT WITH DR. CAM CASWELL Website: AskDrCam.com Instagram: @DrCamCaswell Parenting Teens Academy   ABOUT THE SHOW Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam is hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell, an adolescent psychologist and certified parenting coach. Each episode gives you practical strategies, expert advice, and real-world insight to build a stronger relationship with your teen. ⭐ If this episode helped, share it with a parent who needs it and leave a rating and review. It helps other parents find the show. 🔔 Follow the show so you never miss an episode.

  5. Sep 8

    How to Discipline a Teenager Without Punishment | Dr. Tina Payne Bryson

    Have you ever blamed your teen's eye rolls, impulsive choices, or big reactions on their "underdeveloped brain"? The teen brain keeps developing into the mid-20s, but that doesn't mean teens can't make good decisions. In fact, adolescence is one of the most important times for them to practice. 👉 Want discipline that teaches instead of backfires? Inside Parenting Teens Academy, parents learn to set limits without punishment, stay calm when their teen messes up, and raise a teen who comes to them instead of hiding. Try it free for 7 days In this episode, I sit down with psychotherapist and bestselling author Dr. Tina Payne Bryson, co-author with Dr. Dan Siegel of The Whole-Brain Child and No-Drama Discipline. We talk about what brain science can teach us about raising teens, why punishment can lead teens to hide their mistakes instead of learning from them, and why connection is the foundation for discipline, trust, and independence. If you want to understand what's happening inside your teen's brain and respond in ways that help them grow, this episode gives you practical, science-backed strategies.   WHAT YOU'LL LEARN What teen brain development means for decision-making, empathy, impulse control, and responsibility Why punishment and fear can lead teens to hide mistakes instead of learning from them How to give your teen safe chances to practice decision-making and build independence Why connection and secure attachment are the foundation for trust and better behavior The four S's of secure attachment: safe, seen, soothed, and secure   EPISODE CHAPTERS 00:00 What brain science teaches us about teens 01:10 Parenting teens with understanding and empathy 02:43 How brain development affects teen behavior 04:09 Myths about brain maturity and responsibility 08:48 The prefrontal cortex in teens 11:59 Why practice builds skills 16:22 How to scaffold and support your teen 22:45 Mistakes and repair as learning 32:48 Building trust and secure attachment 44:55 Why relationship matters more than rules   RESOURCES MENTIONED The Whole-Brain Child by Dr. Tina Payne Bryson and Dr. Dan Siegel No-Drama Discipline by Dr. Tina Payne Bryson and Dr. Dan Siegel The Power of Showing Up by Dr. Tina Payne Bryson and Dr. Dan Siegel The Way of Play by Dr. Tina Payne Bryson and Georgie Wisen-Vincent The Four S's of Secure Attachment: Safe, Seen, Soothed, Secure   CONNECT WITH DR. TINA PAYNE BRYSON Website: TinaBryson.com Instagram: @tinapaynebryson   CONNECT WITH DR. CAM CASWELL Website: AskDrCam.com Instagram: @DrCamCaswell Parenting Teens Academy   ABOUT THE SHOW Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam is hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell, an adolescent psychologist and certified parenting coach. Each episode gives you practical strategies, expert advice, and real-world insight to build a stronger relationship with your teen. ⭐ If this episode helped, share it with a parent who needs it and leave a rating and review. It helps other parents find the show. 🔔 Follow the show so you never miss an episode.

  6. Sep 1

    Why Your Teenager Won't Listen to You (It's Not Defiance)

    Does it feel like you're talking to a wall? You ask, remind, repeat, and still nothing. It's easy to decide your teen is being defiant. But often, something else is going on. 👉 Tired of repeating yourself? Inside Parenting Teens Academy, parents learn to get through without nagging, stay calm instead of reactive, and get their teen talking and listening again. Try it free for 7 days In this episode, I sit down with Dr. R.J. Ledet, a psychiatrist trained in pediatrics, adult psychiatry, and child and adolescent psychiatry, a Navy veteran, and co-founder of The 15 White Coats. We talk about why teens tune us out, how our stress shortens our fuse, and why so much of the disrespect we dislike starts with what teens hear at home. The fix isn't stricter rules. It's pausing before we react, building responsibility step by step, and getting curious about how our teen thinks, not how we think they should.   WHAT YOU'LL LEARN Why your teen isn't ignoring you on purpose The simple pause that keeps you from reacting and lecturing Why modeling teaches more than lectures, and where disrespect comes from How asking your teen to define "respect" helps your expectations land How to build responsibility step by step instead of all at once   EPISODE CHAPTERS 00:00 The challenges of parenting teens today 02:10 Meet Dr. R.J. Ledet 03:51 Common mistakes parents make with teens 06:00 Why self-awareness matters in parenting 08:06 Parenting under stress 10:01 The developmental stages of kids and teens 12:09 How your own upbringing shapes your parenting 14:01 Modeling and communication at home 16:02 Social media and screens 18:12 Building trust and connection with teens 19:58 Taking responsibility and caring for yourself 22:04 The power of pausing 24:00 Managing expectations and responsibility 26:01 Love, respect, and understanding 27:59 From control to connection 29:56 Final thoughts and key takeaways   CONNECT WITH DR. R.J. LEDET Instagram: @DrRussellLedet Organization: The 15 White Coats   CONNECT WITH DR. CAM CASWELL Website: AskDrCam.com Instagram: @DrCamCaswell Parenting Teens Academy   ABOUT THE SHOW Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam is hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell, an adolescent psychologist and certified parenting coach. Each episode gives you practical strategies, expert advice, and real-world insight to build a stronger relationship with your teen. ⭐ If this episode helped, share it with a parent who needs it and leave a rating and review. It helps other parents find the show. 🔔 Follow the show so you never miss an episode.

  7. Aug 18

    Helicopter Parenting Teens: The Hidden Cost of Doing Too Much

    Stop Overparenting: What Your Teen Actually Needs to Thrive | John Fogle Are you constantly worrying about your teen's grades, screen time, choices, or attitude? It's easy to get caught up in the small stuff when you're trying to set your teen up for success. But some of the things parents work hardest to control may actually get in the way of the skills teens need most. In this episode, Dr. Cam sits down with parenting researcher, data analyst, and author John Fogle to explore what really matters when raising teens. Together, they discuss why overprotecting teens can increase anxiety, how age-appropriate independence builds resilience, and why a strong parent-teen relationship is more protective than constant rules and monitoring. If you're exhausted from trying to keep your teen on the "right" path, this episode will help you step back from fear-based parenting and focus on raising a capable, confident adult who knows they can always come to you when things go wrong. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE Why focusing too much on grades, screens, and minor behavior can distract from what your teen actually needs How overprotecting and controlling teens can unintentionally increase anxiety and reduce resilience Why age-appropriate freedom, risk, and mistakes are essential for developing confidence and problem-solving skills How to become the parent your teen trusts enough to call when they're in trouble 🎧❤️ ENJOYING THE SHOW? Don't keep it to yourself! Share your favorite episode and leave a rating and review to help other parents find the support they need. Your feedback helps me create even more episodes filled with practical tips for you and your family! Thanks so much for your support! 🙏💫 🔔 Remember to hit SUBSCRIBE so you never miss another solution-packed episode! 🙌 RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Punishment Free Parenting by John Fogle Whole Parent Membership Platform: myparentlab.com Whole Parent Academy: wholeparentacademy.com Whole Parent Podcast The Danish Way of Parenting by Jessica Joelle Alexander CONNECT WITH OUR GUEST: John Fogle Website: wholeparentacademy.com Membership: myparentlab.com Instagram: @WholeParent Facebook: @WholeParent TikTok: @WholeParent YouTube: Whole Parent Podcast: Whole Parent Podcast CONNECT WITH YOUR HOST: Dr. Cam Caswell Website: askdrcam.com Instagram: @DrCamCaswell TikTok: @the.teen.translator YouTube: Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam Facebook: @DrCamCaswell EPISODE CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction: Rethinking Parenting Priorities 00:27 Meet John Fogle: Parenting Researcher and Author 01:20 Why We Overfocus on Small Stuff 02:20 The Role of Grades in Teen Anxiety 03:09 Success and Happiness Beyond Academic Achievements 04:04 The Myth of Boundaries and Rules 05:03 What Really Matters in Teen Development 05:59 Parents' Goals for Their Kids at Different Ages 06:29 Parenting for the Long Term 07:29 The Value of Diverse Experiences 09:14 The Power of Relationships and Communication 11:28 Parenting Beyond Control: The Ecosystem of Support 13:54 The Impact of Societal Changes on Teen Mental Health 16:44 Historical Lessons: The Great Leap Forward and Sparrows 18:34 The Cost of Overprotection and Control 20:47 Building Trust and Resilience in Teens 23:31 The Reality of Teen Screen Use and Digital Skills 26:57 The Decline of Autonomy and Its Effects 29:36 The Power of Parental Relationship and Support 33:26 Teen Behavior: Normal Developmental Challenges 36:27 The Importance of Community and Support Networks 38:15 Parenting as a Long-Term Investment 40:10 Simple, Effective Parenting Strategies 42:49 Listening to Teens and Building Trust 44:58 The Value of Risk and Resilience 48:49 Real-Life Examples of Risk and Growth 50:31 Final Words of Wisdom for Parents ABOUT THE SHOW The Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam Podcast is your go-to resource for navigating the challenges of raising teenagers. Hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell, an adolescent psychologist and certified parenting coach, this podcast offers practical parenting strategies, expert advice, and real-world insights to help you build a stronger relationship with your teen and support their emotional growth. Whether you're struggling with teenage behavior or looking to improve communication, each episode provides actionable tips to make parenting teens easier and more rewarding. Perfect for both new and seasoned parents, this podcast helps you build the confidence to handle teen challenges and thrive together. #theteentranslator #drcamcaswell #parentingteenswithdrcam #TeenResilience #Overparenting

  8. Aug 11

    Teen Phone Rules That Stick (Without Daily Fights)

    Are you constantly battling your teen over their phone? With worries about screen time, social media, and teen mental health everywhere, taking the phone away can feel like the only way to protect them. But what if the phone isn't the root of the problem? 👉 Tired of fighting about phones? Inside Parenting Teens Academy, parents learn to set phone limits without the daily battles, stay calm when their teen pushes back, and get their teen talking to them again. Try it free for 7 days In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge, a school psychologist, therapist, nervous system regulation expert, and author of The Dysregulated Kid. We talk about why teens turn to their phones to escape uncomfortable feelings, why restricting screen time alone doesn't teach healthy coping skills, and how calm, clear boundaries and connection help teens build emotional resilience. If phones have become a constant source of conflict in your home, this episode gives you a different approach, one that focuses on what's driving the behavior, not just the screen.   WHAT YOU'LL LEARN Why your teen's phone use may be a sign of stress and dysregulation, not the real problem How your own calm shapes the way your teen responds to boundaries and conflict Why connection and clear boundaries work better than surveillance and constant restrictions The Love Pause, a three-second habit that stops phone fights before they start Practical ways to help your teen build healthier coping skills than scrolling EPISODE CHAPTERS 00:00 Why phones feel like the enemy 02:01 How teens use phones to cope, and the risks 04:06 How phones affect sleep and emotional health 07:10 Passive scrolling and emotional dysregulation 09:53 Rising mental health struggles and what dysregulation looks like 15:00 Setting phone boundaries that work 19:59 Why teens need space and independence 25:11 Why surveillance backfires, and how to build trust 30:01 Teaching teens to handle technology and online predators 35:12 Why your calm matters most 39:58 The Love Pause and other calming strategies 42:03 How to connect with Dr. Roseann   RESOURCES MENTIONED The Dysregulated Kid: A Practical Playbook by Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge Regulation First Parenting The CALMS System The Love Pause   CONNECT WITH DR. ROSEANN CAPANNA-HODGE Website: DrRoseann.com Program: Regulation First Parenting   CONNECT WITH DR. CAM CASWELL Website: AskDrCam.com Instagram: @DrCamCaswell Parenting Teens Academy   ABOUT THE SHOW Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam is hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell, an adolescent psychologist and certified parenting coach. Each episode gives you practical strategies, expert advice, and real-world insight to build a stronger relationship with your teen. ⭐ If this episode helped, share it with a parent who needs it and leave a rating and review. It helps other parents find the show. 🔔 Follow the show so you never miss an episode.

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Parenting Teens Got You Stressed? 🎙️ Dr. Cam—The Teen Translator—Has Answers! Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam is the go-to podcast for parents who are ready to get real about raising teenagers. Hosted by Dr. Cam Caswell—adolescent psychologist, certified parenting coach, and mom of a teen—this podcast is all about honest conversations that dive deep into the challenges parents face and providing actionable solutions that actually work. Dr. Cam doesn’t just talk theories—she shares real-life insights and strategies based on over a decade of experience and the struggles she faces as a mom herself. Every episode offers practical, science-backed solutions to help you understand your teen, improve communication, and build a stronger relationship. Whether you’re dealing with mood swings, defiance, anxiety, or social media issues, you’ll find easy-to-apply advice that makes a difference. No interviews here—just authentic conversations that get to the heart of what parents are really dealing with. With a mix of expert tips and Dr. Cam’s own relatable stories, you’ll walk away with the tools you need to tackle even the toughest teen challenges with confidence. #Parenting #ParentingTips #ParentingAdvice #ParentingLife #ParentingSupport #TeenParenting #Teenagers #RaisingTeens #ParentingTeens #TeenBehavior #TeenCommunication #TeenMotivation #TeenDevelopment #AdolescentDevelopment #ParentTeenConnection #TeenMentalHealth #DrCam #TheTeenTranslator

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  • Creator
    Dr. Cam
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    300
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © Copyright 2020 All rights reserved.
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    Parenting Teens with Dr. Cam

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