Words and Movies

Sean Gallagher & Claude Call

Sean Gallagher and Claude Call find two seemingly different movies and find the common thread between them.

  1. Oct 17

    Reel 99b: Mini-series, Part 4 (Show Me A Hero, continued)

    Show Me a Hero is a 2015 miniseries that was produced for HBO and helmed by David Simon, the mind behind The Wire, Treme, The Deuce and Homicide: Life On The Street. So most of his projects are fictional with a dash of real-life in them, but this one is based entirely on a true story and relies only on a few typical embellishments (e.g. combining characters or rearranging events to fit the broader narrative). The title comes from an F. Scott Fitzgerald quote: "Show me a hero and I'll show you a tragedy." It's the story of Nick Wascisko, the former cop and (as the show starts) city council member in the city of Yonkers, New York, which is just north of New York City. In 1987 Yonkers was embroiled in a segregation issue involving public housing, which was clustered in a specific part of town. A lawsuit led to forced desegregation of the public housing, and Wascisko's efforts to make it happen, but it's important to note that he initially opposed the order. As the city resisted, the courts punished them with increasing fines, to the point that ordinary city services began to suffer because the workers couldn't be paid. Ultimately the city did comply with the order, and the entire lawsuit was settled in full in 2007, but unfortunately Wascisko wasn't there to see that part of it happen. COMING ATTRACTIONS: Many Podcasts like to mark their 100th episode with some kind of spectacular retrospective or something; we're going to do it with...chess! Next time around we're going to spend time with six hours and change of chess with the Netflix series The Queen's Gambit. Yes, it's about chess but it's about a lot more and you don't have to understand the game to enjoy this one. Join us, won't you?

    Reel 99b: Mini-series, Part 4 (Show Me A Hero, continued)
  2. Oct 17

    Reel 99a: Mini-series, Part 4 (Show Me A Hero)

    So to answer your first question: no, we didn't miscount. We're having a technical issue with Episode 98. If we can fix it, great and we'll release it when it's ready. If we can't, we'll have to re-record it. It's actually happened before, for a different reason, and while it's an interesting experiment to re-hash the discussion we already had, we realized that we don't really like doing it. Show Me a Hero is a 2015 miniseries that was produced for HBO and helmed by David Simon, the mind behind The Wire, Treme, The Deuce and Homicide: Life On The Street. So most of his projects are fictional with a dash of real-life in them, but this one is based entirely on a true story and relies only on a few typical embellishments (e.g. combining characters or rearranging events to fit the broader narrative). The title comes from an F. Scott Fitzgerald quote: "Show me a hero and I'll show you a tragedy." It's the story of Nick Wascisko, the former cop and (as the show starts) city council member in the city of Yonkers, New York, which is just north of New York City. In 1987 Yonkers was embroiled in a segregation issue involving public housing, which was clustered in a specific part of town. A lawsuit led to forced desegregation of the public housing, and Wascisko's efforts to make it happen, but it's important to note that he initially opposed the order. As the city resisted, the courts punished them with increasing fines, to the point that ordinary city services began to suffer because the workers couldn't be paid. Ultimately the city did comply with the order, and the entire lawsuit was settled in full in 2007, but unfortunately Wascisko wasn't there to see that part of it happen. Because Part 2 is also about Show Me a Hero, the show notes will again be more or less identical to these, Feel free to skip them.

    Reel 99a: Mini-series, Part 4 (Show Me A Hero)
  3. Sep 20

    Reel 97b: Mini-Series, Part 2 (Lonesome Dove)

    In which we continue and conclude our discussion of Lonesome Dove. The mini-series is clearly not a strictly American phenomenon (as evidenced by our last episode), but there was a while when that could easily be the argument. It seemed as though mini-series were ubiquitous during the 1970s and 80s. The first by-definition mini-series in the US was probably The Blue Knight, which aired on NBC in 1973 and later became a regular series starring George Kennedy in the role originally played by William Holden. But the one that broke it all open for television was 1976's Rich Man, Poor Man, based on the Irwin Shaw novel. The blockbuster version of the mini-series came the following year, when Roots aired on ABC and became a cultural phenomenon literally overnight. Mini-series carried on into the early 1990s but were largely done in by budget considerations, especially since people were beginning to turn to cable and video as options for their viewing. And in my (Claude) opinion, part of the problem with many of these series is that their scope was quite narrow, or they were TOO broad. Roots' viewership, while still strong, dropped off over time because we were no longer following Kunta Kinte, but other characters a few generations removed. In the case of Rich Man, Poor Man, if you weren't interested in the basic story, you tuned out quickly. However: in 1989 a mini-series came out that was cinematic in scope, that followed the exploits of the same group of people over about two years' time, and had practically everything in it: love, hate, friendship, battles, heroes and villains, deaths (both expected and not), sacrifices and vengeance...it's like the Princess Bride of its time (Sean's probably gonna beat me for that one). That series was Lonesome Dove, based on the 1985 novel by Larry McMurtry. Lonesome Dove stars Tommy Lee Jones and Robert Duvall as Woodrow Call and Augustus McCrae, retired Texas Rangers who embark on one last cattle drive from the Rio Grande to the un-settled wilderness lands in Montana. The series also stars Diane Lane, Robert Urich, Chris Cooper and Anjelica Huston in strong supporting roles. If you haven't seen Lonesome Dove, do yourself a huge favor and check this version out. There are also sequels, prequels, a relatively short-lived (21 episodes) TV series, and I recently learned that it's coming back to Netflix as a drama series. What's not clear from the materials I've seen is whether they're sticking to the novel and being done with it, or if it's going to be another continuing series in that universe. But start with the 1989 original and thank me later.

    Reel 97b: Mini-Series, Part 2 (Lonesome Dove)
  4. Sep 20

    Reel 97a: Mini-Series, Part 2 (Lonesome Dove)

    The mini-series is clearly not a strictly American phenomenon (as evidenced by our last episode), but there was a while when that could easily be the argument. It seemed as though mini-series were ubiquitous during the 1970s and 80s. The first by-definition mini-series in the US was probably The Blue Knight, which aired on NBC in 1973 and later became a regular series starring George Kennedy in the role originally played by William Holden. But the one that broke it all open for television was 1976's Rich Man, Poor Man, based on the Irwin Shaw novel. The blockbuster version of the mini-series came the following year, when Roots aired on ABC and became a cultural phenomenon literally overnight. Mini-series carried on into the early 1990s but were largely done in by budget considerations, especially since people were beginning to turn to cable and video as options for their viewing. And in my (Claude) opinion, part of the problem with many of these series is that their scope was quite narrow, or they were TOO broad. Roots' viewership, while still strong, dropped off over time because we were no longer following Kunta Kinte, but other characters a few generations removed. In the case of Rich Man, Poor Man, if you weren't interested in the basic story, you tuned out quickly. However: in 1989 a mini-series came out that was cinematic in scope, that followed the exploits of the same group of people over about two years' time, and had practically everything in it: love, hate, friendship, battles, heroes and villains, deaths (both expected and not), sacrifices and vengeance...it's like the Princess Bride of its time (Sean's probably gonna beat me for that one). That series was Lonesome Dove, based on the 1985 novel by Larry McMurtry. Lonesome Dove stars Tommy Lee Jones and Robert Duvall as Woodrow Call and Augustus McCrae, retired Texas Rangers who embark on one last cattle drive from the Rio Grande to the un-settled wilderness lands in Montana. The series also stars Diane Lane, Robert Urich, Chris Cooper and Anjelica Huston in strong supporting roles. If you haven't seen Lonesome Dove, do yourself a huge favor and check this version out. There are also sequels, prequels, a relatively short-lived (21 episodes) TV series, and I recently learned that it's coming back to Netflix as a drama series. What's not clear from the materials I've seen is whether they're sticking to the novel and being done with it, or if it's going to be another continuing series in that universe. But start with the 1989 original and thank me later. Because Part 2 is also about Lonesome Dove, the show notes there will be nearly identical to the ones you see here, so you needn't bother reading them. I won't take it personally.

    Reel 97a: Mini-Series, Part 2 (Lonesome Dove)
  5. Sep 6

    Reel 96b: Miniseries Part 1 (Fanny and Alexander, continued)

    This is the first of five episodes we'll be covering which deal with miniseries, rather than theatrical films. The idea here is that when television decides they're going to do "events" and create these limited series ("limited" in the sense that there's a fixed number of episodes and no more are on the table), budgets tend to go up and the caliber of actor you get improves as well. But for all that, we're going to start with a miniseries that was also a theatrical film. Fanny and Alexander (1982) was written and directed by Ingmar Bergman, and was conceived and created as a miniseries, and edited that way with a run time of 312 minutes total. Afterward, this was cut down to 188 minutes for theatrical release. This version--which does, in fact, suffer from the cuts--actually managed to get released first. From time to time, theaters will show the 312-minute version, and that's the version we're discussing in our episode. In Sweden, it got positive reviews and did well at the box office; while it also got good reviews in the United States, it was overshadowed by films such as Return of the Jedi, Trading Places and Terms of Endearment, among others. Because we're spending both halves of the episode on Fanny and Alexander, don't look for anything new in the show notes for the second half. COMING ATTRACTIONS: In our next episode, we'll be looking at a miniseries that was certainly considered a major television event when it first came out. You'll laugh, you'll cry and you won't want to leave the world of Lonesome Dove. Join us, won't you?

    Reel 96b: Miniseries Part 1 (Fanny and Alexander, continued)

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Sean Gallagher and Claude Call find two seemingly different movies and find the common thread between them.