The X Factor: The Human Performance & Leadership Podcast with Dr. Stephen Long

Stephen Long

A podcast for leaders by leaders from business, military, athletics and academia with topics including human performance, leadership effectiveness, talent optimization and strategic execution.

  1. 12/12/2025

    From Knowledge to Capability: What Makes Learning Stick - Adrian Stäubli

    In this podcast conversation, Adrian Stäubli, a global learning and development expert with more than two decades of experience designing scalable capability systems for large organizations, makes a clear and field-tested argument: learning fails not because content is poor, but because organizations systematically prevent transfer.Across corporate, financial services, and technology environments, Stäubli has observed the same pattern repeatedly. Organizations invest heavily in courses, platforms, and learning events—then expect capability to emerge on its own. It rarely does.The Knowledge–Capability GapAccording to Stäubli, the gap between knowledge and capability is not cognitive. Learners generally understand what they were taught. The gap is contextual and systemic. Learning is treated as something to complete, not something to use. Once employees return to their desks, time pressure, incentives, and existing habits overpower new behaviors. Organizations unintentionally optimize for forgetting.Three Conditions That Make Learning StickStäubli identifies three non-negotiable conditions for turning learning into sustained performance. If anyone is missing, the return on learning investment collapses.1. ApplicationCapability develops only when learning is applied immediately to real work. Abstract simulations and hypothetical role-plays fail to transfer. Learning sticks when participants bring real problems, real decisions, and real constraints into the learning process and apply new behaviors directly on the job.2. SupportFeedback activates learning. Stäubli emphasizes that brief, frequent check-ins—often five minutes or less—are enough to trigger insight. Learners often “get it” only when they articulate their struggle aloud. Managers do not need to provide answers; they need to create space for reflection, adjustment, and honest dialogue. Psychological safety is essential.3. TimeBehavior change is biologically constrained. New habits require repetition, reflection, and reinforcement. Ten-minute leadership monologues do not change behavior. When learning time is not explicitly protected, it disappears. Organizations that succeed treat learning as real work—scheduled, defended, and modeled during working hours.Leadership’s Role: Making Learning LegitimateStäubli stresses that learning sticks when leaders legitimize it. Senior leaders must role-model learning, openly discuss what did not work, protect learning time, and reinforce development through systems and incentives. Without this, learning becomes performative and fades.Learner Responsibility and Cultural ShiftWhile leaders create conditions, learners own execution. Capability grows when individuals take responsibility for practice and experimentation, and when teams normalize conversations about what did not work. Stäubli also highlights a necessary structural shift—from role-based development to skill-based development—creating a shared, measurable language for long-term growth.Culture of CapabilityHigh-performing organizations stop treating learning as an event. Learning becomes how work gets done—embedded in routines, peer conversations, short reflections, and small behavioral “notches” that compound over time.Bottom line: As Stäubli makes clear, organizations cannot accelerate human learning beyond biological limits—but they can design systems that either support or sabotage it. The organizations that win do not train more. They engineer environments where capability is unavoidable.

    52 min
  2. 07/25/2025

    Pat Wadors, CHRO, Intuitive - Innovation In Medical Technology

    In this insightful podcast episode, Dr. Stephen Long interviews Pat Wadors—an esteemed HR leader and advocate for organizational health—on the critical intersection of innovation, culture, and leadership within the medical technology (medtech) industry. Drawing from her experience at Intuitive and beyond, Wadors articulates a powerful vision for what she calls a “high-performing, healthy organization.”The conversation begins by challenging the traditional narrative that innovation is fueled by unfettered freedom. Instead, Wadors argues that constraints are not creativity’s enemy—they’re its engine. She references the metaphor of “the crow and the pitcher”—a creative device used by artists to create tension and focus—suggesting that structural limits often force more inventive thinking. This aligns with the Prosperity Trait®  that Discipline (i.e., the willingness to do the hard thing) is the first ingredient of repeatable innovation.A central theme in the episode is the importance of psychological safety. Wadors describes how high-performing teams are distinguished not just by talent, but by trust. At Intuitive, leaders are trained to solicit feedback, model vulnerability, and play devil’s advocate with their own ideas—deliberately making room for dissent. This humility creates the conditions where innovation is not only possible, but sustainable. Wadors stresses that psychological safety is not simply a perk—it’s a system that supports creativity under pressure, especially when navigating regulatory constraints and long development cycles endemic to medtech.Wadors also underscores the value of diversity of thought, noting that complex problems in medtech require input from a wide range of perspectives. Leaders must not only invite differing opinions but also create processes that ensure these voices are truly heard. This echoes The Prosperity Trait® insight that Self-Confidence is not bravado—it’s the strength of belief required to express imaginative ideas, especially in high-stakes environments.The conversation shifts to the unique challenges of innovation in medtech, where product lifecycles can span years or even decades. Wadors describes how organizations can maintain energy and cohesion over these long arcs by grounding their teams in mission and purpose. At Intuitive, the company’s focus on improving patient outcomes gives people a reason to persist, even when progress is slow or uncertain. This mission-based resilience aligns with the Prosperity Trait® skill of Mental Toughness—specifically the behaviors of Patience, Persistence, and Recovery that sustain creativity over time.Waters also explores how to build leaders who can manage the dual pressures of performance and well-being. She highlights the role of support structures—including open communication, collaborative decision-making, and active feedback loops—as mechanisms that allow teams to thrive. These structures turn innovation into a teachable, coachable, and scalable capability—not just the result of individual genius.The episode closes with four key strategies leaders can implement to drive healthy innovation: 1. Embrace constraints as creative catalysts. Use structure to focus energy and drive depth. 2. Engineer psychological safety. Model humility, invite critique, and make feedback systemic. 3. Connect innovation to purpose. Build stamina by anchoring daily work in meaningful outcomes. 4. Develop systems of support. Coach leaders to balance ambition with well-being and collaboration.

    41 min
  3. 11/28/2022

    Dave Nordel, CCM Retired, United States Air Force

    Dave Nordel is a retired United States Air Force Command Chief Master Sergeant with over 30 years of service. He is a registered nurse and emergency manager, and served as a medic in areas of operations that include Saudi Arabia, Somalia, South America, Iraq, Korea, Japan, and Hungary.Dave grew up in a dairy farming community in rural Northern California and experienced all that brings to a young man raised in the late 60s and 70s. Dave left home at 19 to join the Air Force and ascended through the enlisted ranks to culminate as the Senior Enlisted Leader for all nuclear missile forces in the United States. He has vast experience leading small groups and large organizations and has led city government activities and large organizations as an emergency manager for multiple communities through Covid and other disaster situations.Dave currently lives in Billings, Montana, and is an outdoorsman, a mentor, and speaks to young leaders to aid in their development and future successes. He continues to give back the gifts he has collected along the way.Twitter: #DaveNordelInstagram: dnordel65www.linkedin.com/in/david-nordel-85265246/onemanoneplanmt@gmail.comhttps://www.amazon.com/Giving-Back-Leadership-Combat-Beyond/dp/1982285834/ref=asc_df_1982285834/?tag=hyprod-20&&linkCode=df0&&hvadid=598351558985&&hvpos=&&hvnetw=g&&hvrand=11149717278079118340&&hvpone=&&hvptwo=&&hvqmt=&&hvdev=c&&hvdvcmdl=&&hvlocint=&&hvlocphy=9020688&&hvtargid=pla-1672524547128&&psc=1

    59 min

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A podcast for leaders by leaders from business, military, athletics and academia with topics including human performance, leadership effectiveness, talent optimization and strategic execution.