Send us Fan Mail Our candid behind the scenes conversation with Steven Meyers and Shawn Johnson. A bank robber who studies law enforcement like a science project. A retired FBI agent who spends years trying to predict the next move. Then, decades later, they finally compare notes. That’s the tension driving our conversation with Sean Johnson, the former FBI case agent who led the investigation, and Steven, the accomplice who later wrote The Treehouse and helped tell the story behind the Netflix documentary How to Rob a Bank. We talk about how this all starts long before the first robbery: Scott “Hollywood” Scurlock’s precision mindset, his shift from meth production to bank jobs, and the way he treats risk like a craft. Steven breaks down the reality of surveillance and countersurveillance, including the crew’s code for police, how lookouts are positioned, and why “normal” patrols matter less than the moment a car comes flying with urgency. Sean adds the law enforcement side: what investigators can prove, what they can only suspect, and how a multi-year spree leaves holes that haunt a case agent. The second half goes where true crime rarely gets to go: the proffer interviews and the psychology of bargaining. Steven explains how he decides when to tell the truth and when to minimize, while Sean explains how agents keep it professional and fact-driven while trying to close gaps, connect crimes, and secure a plea agreement. The treehouse itself becomes more than a location, it’s the hub where identity, secrecy, and myth all collide. If you want a deeper, more honest look at FBI bank robbery investigations, criminal tactics, and the human choices inside a real case, listen now. Subscribe, share this with a true crime friend, and leave us a review so more listeners can find the show. Get Steven Meyers' THE TREEHOUSE today on Amazon. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!
