The Rural Towns Project Podcast

Dax Jacobson

Dax Jacobson is a business professor who grew up in and loves the rural American West. The Rural Towns Project Podcast documents Dax’s journey to highlight the history of rural small towns in the American West, to share stories about the people trying to make a living in them, and to learn more about the challenges and opportunities they face.

  1. Aug 3

    Trading posts, pawn rooms, and Navajo cultural history with historian Robert McPherson in Blanding, Utah

    I’m currently learning more about San Juan County, Utah and I’m focusing on the town of Blanding. In this episode I chat with the delightful Dr. Robert McPherson, emeritus Professor of History at Utah State University - Blanding and a Utah State Historical Society Fellow. Bob spent 45 years in Blanding and he talks about how his mother reading stories to him as a child in Massachusetts led to a lifetime love of Native American culture and an incredible career researching, writing, and exploring the Navajo Nation from Blanding. We talk about trading posts and Bob uses the trading post at Aneth (the oldest continuous business in San Juan County - it started as a trading post and is now a convenience store) to provide a detailed account of a typical interaction and negotiation that came from a trading post shopping experience that was essentially a community event that could last hours to a full day. Bob talks about pawning, pawn rooms, and how the trader needed to know national prices and the state of the market and how some trading posts even had their own money and banking system. Bob’s career full of interviews and oral histories focused on the place he loved and called home for decades has me really excited about an oral history project I’m starting on soon. We end with a fun answer to the Road Trip Music Question that leads to even more incredible stories about road trips with his Navajo interpreter friends. Podcast music: “A Happy Day” by codemusic, http://www.jamendo.com, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/

  2. Jul 19

    Learning about rural apprenticeship programs and how they might work in places like Blanding, Utah with Inside Higher Ed reporter Sara Weissman

    I’m currently learning more about San Juan County, Utah and I’m focusing on the town of Blanding. In this episode I chat with Sara Weissman to learn more about her recent story on rural apprenticeships for Inside Higher Ed (https://www.insidehighered.com/news/tech-innovation/alternative-credentials/2026/05/26/rural-opportunity-through-apprenticeship). Sara shares a bit about her background and what brought her to her current role as a journalist (it includes a big thanks to an 8th grade English teacher!). We talk about how Sara decides to pursue stories like this one, which is part of a larger series on apprenticeships, and the importance of actually showing up in rural communities to meet with people face-to-face, of building trust, and of being curious. Sara shares what surprised her from her reporting (a program doesn’t need to be big to have a big impact), the lessons learned about designing effective programs (the programs can’t just be an add-on to a full-time job, there needs to be intentional integration and thoughtful flexibility from all sides), and the tremendous potential of these programs if colleges are willing to step up. Sara asks a very thoughtful question regarding the work I am doing as Dean that I really appreciated and we end, as always, with the Road Trip Music Question. Podcast music: “A Happy Day” by codemusic, http://www.jamendo.com, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/

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Dax Jacobson is a business professor who grew up in and loves the rural American West. The Rural Towns Project Podcast documents Dax’s journey to highlight the history of rural small towns in the American West, to share stories about the people trying to make a living in them, and to learn more about the challenges and opportunities they face.

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