[00:00 - 05:12] Eric: Hello, welcome to Brand Front Lines with your hosts, Marissa and Eric Labrecque, me. Thank you so much for listening. If you're enjoying the podcast, by the way, please subscribe and rate and share it with any marketing nerds, you know. Marissa: And check us out on Instagram @brandfrontlines where we are continuing the conversation with some practical exercises and tools, so you can apply all of this to your own brand or your clients’ brands. Eric: So, this is our first season, and in this season, we're diving into one new foundational element of a brand. And every episode, what it is, why it's important, and how to build it. Last episode was our first look at what we call the brand wheel, which is our model for a successful brand, a successful brand story. Marissa: So now we are in the wheel, the very center of the wheel, which is held by the core naturally, we're also getting into brand drivers today. These are really important themes to get right. They're pretty straightforward, but I see marketers describe them differently all the time. Today, I googled them, brand drivers to see what came up. And the very first thing that I saw was personality attributes. That's what we would call them. Eric: Like what? What were some of the things that you were finding? Marissa: It was a description on a marketing consultants’ website, like a little blog post she done on brand drivers. And for her they were, you know, she had a list of personality traits like affable, fun, authentic-just personality traits. Eric: Yeah, you know, so real quick thumbnail here. If you're using an adjective, it's probably a personality attribute. And if using a noun, you're probably talking about a driver or a theme. Think about a story, you know, a writer doesn't sit down and say, I'm going to write a story about the theme funny, you might write a story about the theme growing up. And it might be a funny story, you might inject a lot of humor into it. So just keep those two things in mind as you move forward in your brand work. Marissa: Yeah, so we'll get more into it. But you know, we'll define them as we define them. And I want to reiterate, we talked about this in an earlier episode. But I think a lot of marketing programs and a lot of courses you can take online, start the brand, later than we do the brand work, they start at the stuff that customers can see, might start with a tagline or an elevator pitch, or even a mission and vision statement, which is very foundational. But you know, these are all things that might end up on your website or in your email communications. But there is some work that's a little deeper that might never see the light of day as far as customers go, but it informs everything that comes after. And it's so important. So, that's really what today is about. It's about that that stuff that is the foundation, it's underneath the building. And it's the platform on which everything else is built. Eric: Yeah, you really put that well, I mean, just remember, as a brand marketer, you're a storyteller, a little different in many ways, but you share a lot with novelists and playwrights and screenwriters, and cowboys sitting around a campfire. And yeah, and all those people, even the cowboy has done some pre work to understand where the story is going to go and how it's going to hang together. And that's what we're saying, you know, we're about is doing that pre work. Before we dive into our exploration of brand core and brand drivers. What we've been up to today? Marissa: Well, this is the first episode that we're recording after the quarantine. So, I'm working on, client works looking a little different these days, like I mostly am working with the same clients, a couple of projects got kind of put-on hold but doing different things like brands, most of the brands that I'm working with have shifted a little bit. So, a lot more focus on online sales, communications, pipelines, building email lists, all that kind of fun stuff. All of a sudden, got way more important than long term strategy. It was like alright, let's shift let's make sure we're still talking to everybody. They know where we're at. We're getting in front of them. And so it's been fun. I've learned a lot and I think deepened my relationships with my clients, we're like, in the trenches together on the brand front lines. [05:12 - 10:24] Eric: You know, I've been working with two clients today who called with sudden needs, they wanted to craft their response to current events. First, you know, a couple months ago, it was the COVID-19 crisis. And now it's their response to the real social conversation around Black Lives Matter. I don't want to get too anchored in the moment for the sake of people listening in the future. But basically, both of these events are singular. And yet, the clients, the companies, the brands need to consider how should they relate to them with respect to their brands? What's the right response? What's the right course of action? What fits within the story that they have? How can they be legitimate? Should they even make statements. So, relating the immediate and the near term to the long-term story is something that they're wrestling with, and we're working to help them with. Marissa: Yeah, I've written statements recently for clients that they're almost are like PR work in a way. But because they matter so much, they really have to have integrity. And so it's just another moment when you really know your brand. And it really is authentic to you, then it's so much easier to speak to something that's important to you with authority and not be performative or cliche. Eric: Right. And I think it's not only about speaking, that's part of it. But also, what conversations do you want to enter into and listen, you know, there's a lot to talk about right now. And there are a lot of conversations enter into, maybe it's still good to focus. So I think the brand is not only an expressive tool, but a tool to think about who you're going to interact with and who you might need to be listening to that maybe you haven't been listening to before. Marissa: Yeah, reset your aperture. So, brand core. Eric: So, what is a brand core? Marissa: Yeah, let's define our brand core. Eric: It's the thing that doesn't really change, that lives at the heart of your brand. It's the kind of essential truth of the brand, it's the business that you're in is another really basic way of putting it. Marissa: Your genre. Eric: Yeah, I mean, if we were talking about movies, it would be the genre of the movie. So what kind of movie is this? Is it a rom-com, is it an adventure, is it sci-fi? And that helps to set our expectations for what to come? That's one of the uses of the brand core. Marissa: For what's to come? Eric: Yeah, what's the rest of the story going to be, you know, put me in the frame of mind to start thinking about you in a certain way. So that's one useful thing about a core. Something else that's really useful about it is it it's always good to know what you are and what you aren't, you know, if you're starting a rom-com, and you start doing things that are a little sci-fi(ish), could be a little bit of an awkward fit. So it helps people internally and also, your audience, your customers start to get expectations and go with you on a journey in that sense to, you know, certain kind of clarity, a certain kind of focus. Marissa: I'm very interested in science fiction rom-com. Eric: Yeah, well, there are some weird blends out there. It's just, it's really tough to do, you know, it's tough to pull off. And I think even if we were to go find a really good sci-fi rom-com, we'd probably figure out at some point, it's a little more rom-com or it's a little more sci=fi, one thing's usually going to take the lead. The other thing is that it helps you to understand who you're in the market with and competing against. Yeah, so that's pretty useful too. An example of a brand core from a B2B client of ours, actually, we'll talk about an example of a brand core from a category. So cybersecurity brands, okay, there are a lot of them out there. And let's talk about one little part of that cybersecurity space. We have a company called Prisma. That is about cloud security solutions. So cybersecurity in the cloud. A competitor of theirs - Threat stack is about cloud security as well. They define themselves a little differently, cloud security insights, but basically the same core, and so on through Shift Left, which is about application security, automation, and sis day, which is about container security, and insights and Data Dog, which is about Cloud Monitoring. They're all about this cloud security idea. Each have a little different nuance, but mainly we're understanding that they're kind of grouped together. And it's really important to think about the core as not just thing that sets you apart. But the thing that you share with others so they can start to place you. In a traditional marketplace. The people who are offering one set of services are all kind of together like you going down an alley and all the goldsmiths are there, all the rug, merchants are down another area and helps people to know where to go to find you. And then from there, they can make a decision about who to choose. [10:24 - 15:15] Eric: So like, coke, soda beverage, like what do you call the core and that? Marissa: Well, I haven't researched this, you're asking me off the top my head. And I think coke would say its core is an emotional attitude called enjoyment, I, most people top of mind are going to think about coke as a set of experiences around a sweet carbonated beverage. So, I would say that, that's its core. And other things like it would be other sweet carbonated beverages, soft drinks. Again, with all due respect to the coke folks, and how they define it, which is probably real