Midlifin‪g‬ Lee Miller and Simon Ellis

Once they get past psychoneuroendocrinology, being attuned to panic, and the definition of sonder, Simon and Lee talk about being in love (not necessarily with each other).

Lee and Simon talk about bubble-bath ... not for the entire episode but probably more than is necessary. Then they talk about the nature of fandom (but only get there via Lee's undertaker friend).

Stuff. Lee and Simon talk about stuff, and then deviate towards discussing the way culture can be changed. Then, somehow they end up back at Armie Hammer. Bloody Armie Hammer! It all means they can no longer avoid talking about cancel culture and the divisions in our political and social worlds.

Lee and Simon respond to some listener questions, but definitely not their feedback. The show ends when Simon realises that he's not going to be a secret witch for much longer.Get in touch with Lee and Simon at info@midlifing.net.Related links (and...

Simon and Lee attempt to tackle shame but get bowled over by Ted Lasso who suggests they meet people with curiosity.

A conversation about being out of control starts off all middle class, veers wildly out of control and Simon and Lee end up struggling past thirst tweets.