Just Get A Real Job

Jamie Mackinlay

A podcast that demystifies the creative industries, hosted by Scottish Script Editor Jamie Mackinlay. Each week, Jamie chats with creatives at different stages of their careers about the highs, lows and everything in between. Perfect for anyone interested in working in the arts, Just Get A Real Job celebrates creativity in all its forms and offers insight, humour, and advice for anyone starting out or trying to navigate a career in the arts.

  1. EP. 188 - ‘Building a Career as a Poet' | Luke Wright

    FEB 12

    EP. 188 - ‘Building a Career as a Poet' | Luke Wright

    In this week’s episode, Jamie is joined by poet Luke Wright to talk about what it actually means to build a career as a full-time poet. Luke has been writing and performing poetry for over 25 years, taking his work to theatres, festivals and pubs across the world. He’s created fifteen solo shows, three plays, and published various collections. Luke opens up about: 🎤 Building a long-term career as a working poet ✍️ His approach to writing 🌍 Finding your voice as a poet 🎭 How he manages his own tours 📱 How poetry is evolving in the digital age 🧠 Learning to embrace both the good and the difficult parts of the job 📚 Touring with the likes of John Cooper Clarke and Martin Nuwell Luke also shares two poems in this episode, including Later Life Lesson and Gene Pool, and reflects on his latest poetry collection Later Life Letter and his upcoming tour. It was great to have Luke on the show. 🎙️ EP.188 of Just Get A Real Job 🎧 Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube 🔗 Luke Wright Later Life Letterhttps://www.lukewright.co.uk/later-life-letter-1 Luke’s website, tour dates & other workhttps://www.lukewright.co.uk/ 🌍 Stay Connected With Just Get A Real Job Website / all linkshttps://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast Support the podcast on Patreon 💙https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob Instagram 📸https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob TikTok 🎬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) 🐦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob Spotify 🎧Just Get A Real Job on Spotify Apple Podcasts 🍏Just Get A Real Job on Apple Podcasts YouTube ▶️Just Get A Real Job on YouTube

    57 min
  2. EP .187 - ‘Finding New Ways of Working' | Live at the HB Film Festival

    FEB 3

    EP .187 - ‘Finding New Ways of Working' | Live at the HB Film Festival

    Jamie is joined by Claire Duffy and Maureen Hascoet live from the HB Film Festival for an honest conversation about the state of Scotland’s screen industry and what it really takes to build work from the ground up right now. Claire and Maureen open up about: 🎬 Building creative careers outside traditional media pathways🌱 Why grassroots movements and community-led initiatives matter more than ever🧠 The mindset shifts that can hold creatives back from putting work out🤝 Creating opportunities through collaboration rather than permission🏗️ The realities of funding, access and sustainability in the current industry📣 Why Maureen founded the Scottish Screenwriters Festival and why Claire started the Glasgow Telly Festival🔍 Where the gaps still exist and what needs to change A really open conversation about what the industry can learn from those building things at a grassroots level. It was a genuine pleasure to welcome both Claire and Maureen on the show. A massive thank you to the team at IRIS for filming this episode, with a special shoutout to Abbie and Conor, and to Conor Mecham for his editing support on this week’s episode. Recorded live on Sunday 5th October. 🔗 Episode & Partner Links HB Film Festivalhttps://www.hbfilmfestival.com/ IRIS Ayrhttps://www.theirisayr.com/ 👥 GuestsClaire Duffyhttps://www.instagram.com/duffysclaire/ Maureen Hascoethttps://www.instagram.com/maureencuestas/?hl=en 🌍 Stay Connected With Just Get A Real JobWebsite / all linkshttps://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast Support the podcast on Patreon 💙https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob Instagram 📸https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob TikTok 🎬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) 🐦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob Spotify 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🍏Just Get A Real Job on Youtube.

    1h 11m
  3. EP. 186 - 'Taking Control of Your Creative Career' with Karla Williams Posiuniene

    JAN 14

    EP. 186 - 'Taking Control of Your Creative Career' with Karla Williams Posiuniene

    In the first episode of 2026, Jamie is joined by writer, executive producer and founder of MsMono, Karla Williams Posiuniene, for an honest conversation about taking control of your creative career and what it’s really like being a writer in a changing media landscape. Karla opened up about: 🎬 Breaking into the industry as a writer 🎭 Why she chose to part ways with her agent and how that decision served her better 🏗️ Building her own production company, MsMono 📚 The biggest lessons she’s learned in her career so far 📺 Writing for Grantchester 🔄 What she wishes she’d known when she first started out 📉 How the industry is changing fast 📺 The types of shows she’d love to see more of on screen A really honest conversation about resilience, ownership, and building a creative career on your own terms. Well worth a listen, particularly if you’re working in TV or film right now. 🔍 Follow Karla & explore her work TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cue.karla LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karla-williams-piuniene-3a057238/ MsMono: www.msmono.com Karla’s website: www.karlawilliams.co.uk 🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job 🔗 Website: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast 💙 Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob 🎬 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob 🐦 X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob 🎧 Spotify: Just Get A Real Job on Spotify 🍏 Apple Podcasts: Just Get A Real Job on Apple Podcasts

    49 min
  4. EP. 184 - ‘The Future of Indie Filmmaking' with Hutch.on.Film

    12/11/2025

    EP. 184 - ‘The Future of Indie Filmmaking' with Hutch.on.Film

    This week, Jamie sits down with Hutch.on.Film for a really interesting conversation. Hutch is leading the charge in helping a new generation of indie filmmakers find and build an audience. Having worked across a number of projects in Hollywood including as an Executive Producer on the Emmy-nominated RZR . Hutch has now built an online community of filmmakers and grown a huge audience through his content. We chat about everything from:• 🎥 Hutch’s journey into the film industry• 🌍 Why the industry is struggling and why we all need to adapt• 🎯 Why personal branding matters more than ever• 🎬 What Hutch learned working in both the US and UK film and TV industries• 📱 How he uses social media to reach audiences and how you can too.• 🌱 How indie filmmakers and creatives can thrive in a shifting landscape Such a good chat for anyone trying to build a creative career right now and really instresting to get a diffrent perspective on the current state of the industry🎬✨ Links: Hutch.On.FIlmFilm Insider is the online community for independent film professionals to network, collaborate and help bring their projects to market. Link here: https://whop.com/checkout/6CW6iPT6pHf1kX5i81-CPXE-6VEY-wChU-HQO38BV5TN7l/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hutch.on.film/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hutch.on.film 🌍 Stay Connected with Just Get A Real Job 🔗 Website: linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast 💙 Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/justgetarealjob 📸 Instagram: instagram.com/justgetarealjob 🎬 TikTok: tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob 🐦 X (Twitter): twitter.com/justgetarealjob 🎧 Spotify: Just Get A Real Job on Spotify 🍏 Apple Podcasts: Just Get A Real Job on Apple Podcasts

    55 min
  5. EP. 183 - 'The Creative Industries Minister' Ian Murray MP

    12/05/2025

    EP. 183 - 'The Creative Industries Minister' Ian Murray MP

    This week, Jamie welcomes Ian Murray, the UK’s Minister for Creative Industries, for an open and honest conversation about the state of the creative sector and what the Department for Culture, Media and Sport is doing to help more young people get into creative careers. Ian shares how his own upbringing shaped his understanding of accessibility in the arts, and why it still feels so difficult for people from working class or under-represented backgrounds to break into creative work. Ian spoke about: 🎨 The realities facing freelancers and why so many feel shut out of the industry 🌱 Discover Creative Careers, the government’s campaign to demystify routes into creative jobs 🎬 The importance of freelancers to the creative economy and what the government is doing to support them 🏠 Why class is still such a barrier for many people trying to forge a creative career 📈 The importance of the BBC and why placing it on a sustainable footing matters 🛠️ The wider mission to make the creative industries more accessible, transparent, and sustainable It was a pleasure to welcome a sitting government minister onto the podcast, hear more about the work DCMS is doing, and have such open and honest discussions about the challenges and opportunities across the sector. 🎮 Discover Creative Careers – Campaign Information The Discover! Creative Careers Campaign aims to make creative careers more accessible to young people from under-represented backgrounds, highlighting the breadth of opportunities in the creative industries and how today’s skills and hobbies can be turned into meaningful, sustainable careers. 📖 No matter your background or education, there are affordable and accessible routes into the sector — from apprenticeships and work experience to on-the-job training. 🧑‍💻 To explore creative and non-creative roles across the industry, visit the Discover! Creative Careers Finder Tool: https://discovercreative.careers/explore/ Instagram: @dcmsgovuk X (Twitter): @dcms  Facebook: @dcmsgovuk  Youtube: @dcms #DiscoverCreativeCareers #SkillsForLife 🌍 Stay Connected with Just Get A Real Job 🔗 Website: linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast 💙 Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/justgetarealjob 📸 Instagram: instagram.com/justgetarealjob 🎬 TikTok: tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob 🐦 X (Twitter): twitter.com/justgetarealjob 🎧 Spotify: Just Get A Real Job on Spotify 🍏 Apple Podcasts: Just Get A Real Job on Apple Podcasts

    44 min
  6. Ep. 182 - ‘Going Full-Time in Comedy’ with Kate Hammer

    11/27/2025

    Ep. 182 - ‘Going Full-Time in Comedy’ with Kate Hammer

    This week, Jamie sits down once again with comedian and writer Kate Hammer for a funny, honest and wide-ranging chat about navigating life as a freelancer in 2025. Since she was last on the podcast, Kate has gone full-time as a stand-up comic and writer and is now literally a government-approved comedian on a global talent visa. Kate spoke about: 🎤 Making the jump into stand-up and building a career on your own terms 💸 The financial pressures and uncertainties of freelance life 🤝 Why community and collaboration matter so much in comedy 🧠 Perfectionism, burnout and trying to keep going in a tough industry 📑 Her time working on River City, moving into screenwriting, and creating a comedy sketch group ✈️ And her unforgettable recent airport saga A brilliant episode packed with laughs, honesty and a relatability every creative will connect with. Links: Kate Hammer: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katethehammer/ Link to all Kate's upcoming shows https://bio.site/katethehammer Get Your Goat Comedy (Kate’s sketch group): https://www.instagram.com/getyourgoatcomedy/ 🌍 Stay Connected with Just Get A Real Job 🔗 Website: linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast 💙 Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/justgetarealjob 📸 Instagram: instagram.com/justgetarealjob 🎬 TikTok: tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob 🐦 X (Twitter): twitter.com/justgetarealjob 🎧 Spotify: Just Get A Real Job on Spotify 🍏 Apple Podcasts: Just Get A Real Job on Apple Podcasts

    59 min
  7. EP. 181 - 'Inside An Indie Record Label ' with Blackhall Records

    11/18/2025

    EP. 181 - 'Inside An Indie Record Label ' with Blackhall Records

    This week, Jamie sits down with Martyn and Christine Armstrong, two of the three founders (alongside Scott Simpson) behind the record label Blackhall Records. Together they explore the ins and outs of running an indie label in today’s ever-changing music landscape, from supporting artists like Dictator, Midnight Ambulance and Waverley, to navigating the challenges of a constantly shifting industry. They chat about:🎶 The realities of running an independent record label in the age of streaming🌱 The importance of discovering and nurturing new music talent🎵 The current state of the Scottish music industry and the pressures artists face within it🏟️ Why we desperately need more grassroots music venues🫶 How Blackhall Records supports the bands on their label🎨 Why quality production and artwork matter more than ever🤖 The rise of AI in music, its pros, cons, and what it means for artists👩‍🎤 The ongoing need for better representation and mentorship for women in the music industry🤝 The delicate balance between artist freedom and label guidance A thoughtful and inspiring conversation about music, resilience and the power of collaboration perfect for anyone curious about how the music industry really works behind the scenes, and especially for music lovers. Links: 🏆 Vote for the Scottish Alternative Music Awards, including Wavelry for best live track:https://www.officialsama.com/vote 🎵 Blackhall Records:https://blackhallrecords.com/ 📸 Blackhall Records on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/blackhall_records/?hl=en 🌍 Stay Connected with Just Get A Real Job 🔗 Website: linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast 💙 Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/justgetarealjob 📸 Instagram: instagram.com/justgetarealjob 🎬 TikTok: tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob 🐦 X (Twitter): twitter.com/justgetarealjob 🎧 Spotify: Just Get A Real Job on Spotify 🍏 Apple Podcasts: Just Get A Real Job on Apple Podcasts

    1h 10m

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A podcast that demystifies the creative industries, hosted by Scottish Script Editor Jamie Mackinlay. Each week, Jamie chats with creatives at different stages of their careers about the highs, lows and everything in between. Perfect for anyone interested in working in the arts, Just Get A Real Job celebrates creativity in all its forms and offers insight, humour, and advice for anyone starting out or trying to navigate a career in the arts.