Just Get A Real Job

Jamie Mackinlay

A podcast that demystifies the creative industries, hosted by Scottish Script Editor Jamie Mackinlay. Each week, Jamie chats with creatives at different stages of their careers about the highs, lows and everything in between. Perfect for anyone interested in working in the arts, Just Get A Real Job celebrates creativity in all its forms and offers insight, humour, and advice for anyone starting out or trying to navigate a career in the arts.

  1. 1d ago

    EP. 203 - 'The Arts Is an Ultramarathon' | Emery Schaffer

    Today on Just Get A Real Job, I’m joined by playwright Emery Schaffer, recorded live from Assembly Gardens at the Edinburgh Fringe. Emery shares her journey from studying theatre in New York to moving to Scotland and building a career as a playwright, as well as the story behind her new play BearGirl. We chat about the realities of making a living as a creative, why career paths are rarely linear, finding inspiration in unexpected places and learning to be patient when success doesn’t happen overnight. Emery also shares why asking for help and leaning on your creative community can take you further than trying to do everything alone. A really lovely conversation about perseverance, creativity and remembering that a career in the arts is an ultramarathon, not a sprint. 🐻 See BearGirl at the Edinburgh Fringe:https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/beargirl 🤝 A big thank you to our sponsors, Assembly Festival, for supporting this episode. We recorded this conversation live from Assembly Gardens during this year’s Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Find out more about Assembly Festival and everything happening across the Fringe:https://assemblyfestival.com/ 💙 Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob 🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob🎬 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob All links: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

  2. 4d ago

    EP. 202 - Susie McCabe on Class, Comedy & Who Gets a Chance

    This week I’m joined by the hilarious Susie McCabe for a brilliant conversation about comedy, class and being back at the Edinburgh Fringe with her latest show Coming of Rage. Live from the Assembly Gardens, Susie spoke to me about how a dare led her from working in construction to stand-up, why it took eight and a half years to go full-time and the reality of building a sustainable career in comedy. We also get into class and access in the creative industries, the state of Scotland’s creative scene, why we need to take more risks on underrepresented talent, imposter syndrome and Susie’s advice for anyone trying to build a creative career. 🤝 A big thank you to our sponsors, Assembly Festival, for supporting this episode. We recorded this conversation live from the Assembly Gardens during this year’s Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Find out more about Assembly Festival and everything happening across the Fringe at:https://assemblyfestival.com/ 🎟️ See Susie McCabe: Coming of Rage at the Edinburgh Fringe:https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/susie-mccabe-coming-of-rage 🌐 Find out more about Susie:https://susiemccabe.com/ Podcast Links 💙 Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob 🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob🎬 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob🐦 X / Twitter: https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob🔗 All links: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

    EP. 202 - Susie McCabe on Class, Comedy & Who Gets a Chance
  3. Aug 12

    EP. 200 - ‘Learning to Slow Down in an Industry That Never Stops’ | Brownbear

    In this very special 200th episode, Jamie is joined once again by musician and songwriter Matt Hickman, better known as Brownbear. Matt returns for a record fifth appearance on the podcast, having first come on the show back in 2021. Three years on from his last appearance, we catch up on everything that’s changed for Matt, from becoming a dad and taking a step back from music to learning to slow down, switch off and make things on his own terms. We chatted about: • Making art on your own terms• Learning to switch off and slow down• Taking his time with new music and reflecting on the continued success of Demons• The work Matt has been doing to help make the arts more accessible• The value of the arts and why we need to get better at communicating it• Reflecting on 200 episodes of Just Get A Real Job …and much more. 🎉 Reaching 200 episodes of Just Get A Real Job feels incredibly surreal. A huge thank you to Matt for coming back for a fifth time and being such a brilliant supporter of the podcast over the years, and to everyone who has listened, watched, shared or supported the show on the journey to 200. It genuinely means so much. ❤️ Find out more about Brownbear's work here:https://linktr.ee/brownbearofficial Podcast Links 💙 Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob 🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob🎬 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob🐦 X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob🔗 All our links: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast Credits 🎙️ Hosted & Produced by Jamie Mackinlay

    EP. 200 - ‘Learning to Slow Down in an Industry That Never Stops’ | Brownbear
  4. Aug 7

    EP. 199 - Being Different Is Your Biggest Creative Advantage | Olivia Claw & Fraser Scott

    In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by Olivia Claw and Fraser Scott. Olivia is a Scottish actor, while Fraser is a theatre director and writer. Their critically acclaimed play Common Tongue is at the Edinburgh Fringe throughout August, celebrating Scottish identity, language and working-class stories through humour, heart and powerful storytelling. We chatted about: 🏴 Scottish identity, language and finding your voice 🎬 Building creative careers in a challenging climate 🎟️ Making theatre more accessible and reaching new audiences 🎭 How Common Tongue has evolved 🌍 Why Scotland's arts scene can be so much more 💭 Their advice for anyone hoping to build a career in the arts …and much more. 🤝 A big thank you to our sponsors, Assembly Festival, for supporting this episode. We recorded this conversation live from the Assembly Gardens during this year's Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Find out more about Assembly Festival and everything happening across the Fringe at https://assemblyfestival.com/. Find out more: 🎟️ Common Tongue at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/common-tongue 🎭 Prophets at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/prophets 📸 Follow Fraser Scott on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fraserscott_ 📸 Follow Olivia Claw on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oliviaclaw/ Podcast Links 💙 Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob 🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob 🎬 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob 🐦 X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob 🔗 All our links: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast Credits 🎙️ Hosted & Produced by Jamie Mackinlay 🎬 Production Support: Vaishnavi Ramu

    EP. 199 - Being Different Is Your Biggest Creative Advantage | Olivia Claw & Fraser Scott
  5. Jul 30

    EP. 198 - Can You Actually Make a Living as an Actor in Scotland? | Darren Brownlie

    In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by acclaimed Scottish actor Darren Brownlie. Best known for playing Mikey in River City, Darren has built a career across television and theatre. With River City coming to an end, Darren reflects on what the show has meant to him, his journey as an actor, and why he's excited to be taking his critically acclaimed one-man musical *Crocodile Rock* to this year's Edinburgh Fringe. We chatted about: 🎭 Darren's journey into acting and training in musical theatre📺 Landing the role of Mikey in River City and saying goodbye to the show 🎟️ Bringing Crocodile Rock to the Edinburgh Fringe and the challenge of performing a one-man show 🎬 Theatre vs television and the realities of working in both 🎭 Why arts education matters and supporting young creatives📱 Going viral on social media and joining Cameo💭 His advice for aspiring actors and building a career in the industry…and much more. Find out more about Darren: 🎟️ Crocodile Rock at the Edinburgh Fringe:https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/crocodile-rock📸 Follow Darren on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/darrenbrownlie/ Podcast Links 💙 Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob 🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: 📸 Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob🎬 TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob🐦 X (Twitter):https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob🔗 All our links:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

    EP. 198 - Can You Actually Make a Living as an Actor in Scotland? | Darren Brownlie
  6. Jul 22

    EP. 197 - Acting, The Apprentice & Creating Opportunities for Young Performers | Reece Donnelly

    In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by actor, entrepreneur and former Apprentice star Reece Donnelly From starting his career as a child actor in shows including Waterloo Road to founding the Theatre School of Scotland, Reece has built a career around creating opportunities for himself and the next generation of performers. In this conversation, Reece spoke about: 🎭 His journey into acting and how he got his start in the industry 🎓 Building the Theatre School of Scotland and creating opportunities for young performers across Scotland📺 What it was really like appearing on The Apprentice 📍 Why you don't necessarily need to move to London anymore to build a creative career, and why he's so passionate about championing local talent🚀 What it's really like running four businesses while balancing multiple creative careers🤝 The importance of putting yourself out there, taking chances and building meaningful relationships💭 His advice for anyone hoping to build a career in the creative industries, and much more. A great and insightful conversation. Find out more about Reece's work: 🎭 Theatre School of Scotlandhttps://theatreschoolofscotland.co.uk/🎓 Theatre College of Scotlandhttps://www.theatrecollegeofscotland.co.uk/☕ Skinny Coffee Househttps://www.skinnycoffeehouse.co.uk/🎬 Patter Productionshttps://www.patter-productions/com Podcast Links: 💙 Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob 🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job 📸 Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob 🎬 TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob 🐦 X (Twitter)https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob 🔗 All linkshttps://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

    EP. 197 - Acting, The Apprentice & Creating Opportunities for Young Performers | Reece Donnelly
  7. Jul 16

    EP. 196 - Milo Edwards: 'Stand-Up, the Edinburgh Fringe & Building Your Own Audience'

    In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by critically acclaimed comedian Milo Edwards. From performing stand-up on Russian television in his early 20s to touring internationally, hosting multiple successful podcasts and returning to the Edinburgh Fringe with his brand new show, Catamaran, Milo has become a well-known name on the UK comedy circuit. Milo chats about: 🎭 Building a career in stand-up comedy 🌍 How a gap year in Russia led to him becoming a TV comedian there in his early 20s ⛵ His new show, Catamaran, and the story behind it 🎟️ Why the Edinburgh Fringe sometimes gets an unfair rap and why it can still be accessible for comics 📈 Building an audience on your own terms instead of waiting to be discovered 💼 Why creators and comedians need to think like entrepreneurs 💭 His advice for anyone wanting to build a career in comedy and much more. A funny, insightful conversation about comedy, creative careers and why success doesn't always look the way you expect. 🎙️ Find out more about Milo: 🌐 Website: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/ 🎟️ Edinburgh Fringe – Catamaran: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/milo-edwards-catamaran Just Get A Real Job links: 💙 Support the podcast on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob 🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: Instagram 📸https://www.instagram.com/ justgetarealjob TikTok 🎬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) 🐦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob All links 🔗https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

    EP. 196 - Milo Edwards: 'Stand-Up, the Edinburgh Fringe & Building Your Own Audience'

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A podcast that demystifies the creative industries, hosted by Scottish Script Editor Jamie Mackinlay. Each week, Jamie chats with creatives at different stages of their careers about the highs, lows and everything in between. Perfect for anyone interested in working in the arts, Just Get A Real Job celebrates creativity in all its forms and offers insight, humour, and advice for anyone starting out or trying to navigate a career in the arts.