Making Creativity Pay

Dan Barnett
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Welcome to ‘Making Creativity Pay’, this isn’t a podcast about making millions, more about speaking to people in creative industries whether that’s music, literature, art or anything that relies on creativity about how that ties in with making a living from it. The aim is not about selling out any creative endeavour but to ensure that there is at least some way to pay the bills and keep the lights on, money can be seen to be a vulgar part of the process but getting fairly paid for the time, effort and expertise you put in to something shouldn't be a bad thing.

  1. Streets Won't Forget - Richard Stott

    20h ago

    Streets Won't Forget - Richard Stott

    “Everybody says that the best person to flyer your show is yourself. And that's true apart from when it's me. I'm really bad at flyering. I'm someone who wears their emotions on their sleeve quite a lot, people can tell that I'm not enjoying myself when I'm flyering.  When you're trying to get yourself in the mindset for a show and be positive, there are better ways to prep for that than being rejected 150 times by people saying, are you funny though? Are you funny? We'll come if you are” Latest episode is with comedian Richard Stott. Richard is currently preparing for the Edinburgh Fringe where he is performing his show ‘Streets won’t forget’, we talk about nightmare reviews, bad flyering experiences and a lot of good experiences too such as reaching the final of the UK pun championship. We also talk about how his day job and comedy experience combine creating social media content for organisations. Website: https://www.textualhealing.co.uk/richard-stott-thpr-2026    Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/the_rstott  Fringe Tickets:  https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/richard-stott-streets-won-t-forget  Episode Image: Andy Heathcote https://www.instagram.com/andyheathcote/  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/

    33 min
  2. Harpist and Comedian Sam Hickman

    May 25

    Harpist and Comedian Sam Hickman

    “I was hoping to do [Edinburgh Fringe] and I didn't get anywhere that I wanted. In my mind, I'm like, I’ve got to be at the good venue. It's got to be worth the time and the effort. I'm not doing it for the love of the art. I could go to Droitwich Spa for the love of the art.” Latest episode is with harpist and performer Sam Hickman Sam is currently taking her current show First Woman around the country with a view to taking to the Fringe in 2027, we talk about First Woman, her previous show Sexy Rude Harp Concert and about finishing third in the 2026 Musical Comedy Awards. We also talk about social media promotion and how sometimes less polished is better. Website:  https://sam-hickman.com/  Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/samhickmanmusic  Tickets: https://linktr.ee/samhickmanmusic  Episode Image: Rhian Dixon Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/

    51 min
  3. Retrospective - Promoting Theatre

    May 16

    Retrospective - Promoting Theatre

    “It started off with a lot of Zoom calls. I was in Sydney and of course TJ is in New York.  I've done two productions in the UK in 2025 and 2024. And both times the way I've kind of approached it was mostly through online Zoom meetings where I would put up a casting call. We'd get a lot of applicants and I'd get self tapes coming in and then I do meetups with them online to get a sense of how they were to perform. And this play was about two months worth of auditions that we went through.” This episode is with playwright TJ Elliot of Knowledge Workings Theatre and Liviu Monsted of Mon Sans Productions. We talk about their show ‘Retrospective’ which is on at Barons Court Theatre in London until 23rd May, the London Pub Theatre scene and how it compares with other locations such as Off-Broadway. We talk about casting a show that crosses three continents as well as promoting the show through traditional methods and Social Media. Knowledge Workings Theatre: https://www.instagram.com/knowledgeworkingstheater/  Mon Sans Productions: https://www.instagram.com/monsansproductions/  Show Details: https://knowledgeworkings.wpcomstaging.com/retrospective-at-barons-court-may-14-23-2026-2/  Tickets: https://www.baronscourttheatre.com/retrospective  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/

    35 min
  4. Rosalie Minnitt - Lady Clementine

    Apr 13

    Rosalie Minnitt - Lady Clementine

    “I was invited to go to this theatre in Wolverhampton and I'm always a little bit nervous about going to places where I'm not entirely sure how the show is going to land…and it ended up just being such a fun show and the audience was so giving and so generous.  That kind of restored my faith in humanity a little bit because these people who had probably just seen it in a brochure had just taken a chance on it.  And I think sometimes you get into this bubble that it's, either you do it in Edinburgh or London and then regional touring is a waste of time but I have such a different view on it.”  Latest episode is with Comedian Rosalie Minnitt We talk about her character creation Clementine and Clementine’s Valentine’s Day show on Radio 4 as well as the differences between playing Clementine on stage and on Radio. We also discuss Rosalie’s experience of the Edinburgh Fringe as well as the challenges and joys of taking Clementine on tour at theatres across the country. Website: https://rosalieminnitt.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosalieminnitt/  Live Shows: https://linktr.ee/rosalieminnitt  Clementine Valentine’s Day Special on Radio 4: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002rdb9  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/

    33 min
  5. Live Comedy Day!

    Apr 1

    Live Comedy Day!

    Latest episode is with Geoff Rowe of the Live Comedy Association We talk about the first Live Comedy Day which takes place on April 1st as well as the wider aims of the Live Comedy Association in both acting as a network for the industry and also acting as a united front for the industry when dealing with the government. We also discuss the Live Comedy Survey conducted by Brunel University on the Live Comedy Sector as well as comparison with organisations in other sectors such as the Music Venue Trust. Live Comedy Day:  https://livecomedyday.co.uk/  Live Comedy Association: https://livecomedyassociation.co.uk/  Comedy Sector Survey: https://livecomedyassociation.co.uk/comedy-survey  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/

    38 min
  6. Girl Gone Wild - Courtney Kocak

    Mar 29

    Girl Gone Wild - Courtney Kocak

    "It's a small town girls misadventures in Hollywood. And it is both poignant and funny. I think of the essays as like crepes. They're kind of like individually snackable, but collectively filling. What I love about the essay format is it's kind of propulsive and you move through it with the momentum that I really appreciate as a reader. And so I wanted to write the book that way." - Author and Podcaster Courtney Kocak, we talk about her upcoming book Girl Gone Wild, a memoir based on a series of essays covering “Tales of ambition, delusion, drugs, sex, and misogyny... including selling T-shirts on the Girls Gone Wild bus” As well as the book we also talk about Courtney’s varied career, from performing as a stand-up, writing for an animated comedy show as well as her extensive career in podcasting including her show Private Parts Unknown which has had over 2 million downloads and her newsletter Podcast Bestie which is full of ways to make the most of your podcast. Website:  https://www.courtneykocak.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneykocak/  Girl Gone Wild:  US: https://bookshop.org/p/books/girl-gone-wild-courtney-kocak/  UK: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/girl-gone-wild-courtney-kocak/18ae2cd0ad59de93  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrivatePartsUnknown  Private Parts Unknown Podcast: https://pod.link/1154304419  The Bleeders Podcast: https://pod.link/1628014529  Podcast Bestie Substack: https://podcastbestie.substack.com/welcome  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/

    45 min
  7. Artpreneur - Miriam Schulman

    Mar 22

    Artpreneur - Miriam Schulman

    “I'm telling all my artists to go on LinkedIn. It's like a nice frontier.” Latest episode is with Artist and author of 'Artpreneur' Miriam Schulman. We talk about her giving up working in Financial Services to focus full time on her art, we also talk about the process of getting her book Artpreneur made and published as well as The Inspiration Place Podcast which has just had it’s 400th Episode and how even the business side of things engages her creativity. Website:  https://www.schulmanart.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/schulmanart/  LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/schulmanart  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@schulmanart  The Inspiration Place Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/27RvGQBHdUorqSTPNri2cA  Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-inspiration-place/id1431934450  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/

    36 min
  8. A Haunted House - David Hoskin

    Mar 15

    A Haunted House - David Hoskin

    Latest guest is David Hoskin talking about his ‘Comedy Horror Mime’ show A Haunted House we talk about taking the show to the Edinburgh Fringe, his upcoming (at time of recording) stints at Soho Theatre and Mumbai Fringe, how to balance Comedy and Horror and his creative career from Illustration to Voiceovers to Film Making. Website: https://www.davidhoskin.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidhoskinperformer/  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Beyond_the_Pod  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/

    42 min
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Welcome to ‘Making Creativity Pay’, this isn’t a podcast about making millions, more about speaking to people in creative industries whether that’s music, literature, art or anything that relies on creativity about how that ties in with making a living from it. The aim is not about selling out any creative endeavour but to ensure that there is at least some way to pay the bills and keep the lights on, money can be seen to be a vulgar part of the process but getting fairly paid for the time, effort and expertise you put in to something shouldn't be a bad thing.

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  • Creator
    Dan Barnett
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    87
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Dan Barnett
  • Show Website
    Making Creativity Pay