In this special episode, Courtney Moore, founder and president of Women & Work, and Courtney Powell, Director of Ministry Content, interview Dr. Karen Swallow Prior, author of our recent book club read, You Have a Calling: Finding Your Vocation in the True, Good and Beautiful. Karen discusses the distinctions between passion, calling, and vocation, emphasizing the importance of serving others and understanding the true, good, and beautiful in discovering one’s purpose. She shares personal stories, practical advice, and philosophical insights to help women discern and live out their divine invitations. Key Topics: The distinction between passion, calling, and vocation The role of serving others in understanding calling The concept of the transcendentals: truth, goodness, and beauty Practical steps for discerning one’s calling The importance of community and external calling Chapters: 00:00—Introduction and Context Setting 03:03—Understanding Vocation and Calling 05:50—Distinguishing Passion from Calling 08:53—Personal Stories and Insights on Calling 11:56—Navigating Job Satisfaction and Fulfillment 15:03—The Role of Work in Our Lives 17:58—Serving Others Through Our Callings 21:10—Encouraging Others in Their Callings 24:10—The Transcendentals: True, Good, and Beautiful 34:00—Exploring the Transcendentals: True, Good, and Beautiful 38:03—Understanding Truth in the Context of Calling 38:57—The Importance of Self-Knowledge in Vocation 44:58—Navigating Multiple Callings and Life Transitions 50:03—Finding Light in Difficult Seasons of Calling 56:01—Transforming Obligations into Divine Invitations Resources Mentioned: Dorothy Sayers, Why Work Elizabeth Gilbert on Distinguishing Between Hobbies, Jobs, Careers, & Vocation Women & Work Podcast episode 32 with Karen Swallow Prior Luther on Vocation Karen Swallow Prior, Ph.D., is the 2025-26 Karlson Scholar at Bethel Seminary. She is a popular writer and speaker, a contributing writer for The Dispatch, and a columnist for Religion News Service. Her writing has appeared in The New York Times, The Atlantic, Vox, The Washington Post, Christianity Today, and many other places. Her most recent book is You Have a Calling: Finding Your Vocation in the True, Good, and Beautiful (Brazos 2025). Follow Karen on Facebook, X, and Instagram. Learn more at KarenSwallowPrior.com. Thank you for listening! Ways you can support Women & Work: Become a Women & Work Partner Purchase our book, Women & Work: Bearing God’s Image and Joining in His Mission through our Work Rate, subscribe, and share our show!