Better Business, Better Life

Debra Chantry-Taylor & Adam Harris | Business Owners & Experts

Better Business Better Life is about one simple idea: a better business should help you create a better life. Are you doing work you genuinely enjoy, with people you respect, making a meaningful difference, being rewarded appropriately & still having time for the people, experiences & passions that matter outside work? Too many business owners build businesses that eventually begin to control their lives rather than support them. As Carefrontational Changemakers, Debra & Adam are passionate about helping business owners & leaders have the conversations, make the changes & build the structur

  1. 4d ago

    Megan Piper: How a $3M Business Grew to $52M with EOS

    In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Megan Piper to explore how EOS® helped transform a technology business From $3M to $52M, while creating greater clarity, accountability, and trust across the leadership team. Megan shares her journey from an unhappy French teacher to becoming an Integrator and fractional CFO, playing a key role in helping a technology business grow from $3 million to $52 million. Her experience demonstrates how the right operating system can bring structure and consistency to a rapidly growing organisation without creating unnecessary rigidity. Throughout the conversation, Megan and Debra explore how EOS creates a common language for leadership teams, helping them move away from ad hoc follow-up and towards consistent quarterly execution. Rather than being a fixed structure or piece of software, EOSprovides a framework that can be adapted to the needs of each organisation. With distributed teams becoming increasingly common, Megan and Debra also discuss the importance of intentional communication and how virtual environments can sometimes reduce hierarchy and give more people an opportunity to participate. This episode offers an insightful look at what can happen when a growing business combines a clear operating system with strong leadership, accountability, and trust. From $3M to $52M is not simply a story about revenue growth, but about the people, systems, and leadership practices that helped make that growth possible. CONNECT WITH DEBRA:    ___________________________________________         ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra.chantry-taylor@eosworldwide.com ►EOS Worldwide Website: Debra Chantry-Taylor | EOS Implementer | EOS Worldwide ___________________________________________       GUEST’S DETAILS: ► Megan Piper – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganpiper/ ► Website – EOS® Implementer – https://implementer.EOS®worldwide.com/megan-piper/ Ep 291 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 00:36 – Megan Piper’s Professional Journey 03:39 – Defining Business Operating Systems 14:22 – Lessons from Scaling and Challenges 17:07 – The Visionary and Integrator Dynamic 21:59 – Key EOS Tools and Implementation 22:52 – Communication and Team Dynamics

    Megan Piper: How a $3M Business Grew to $52M with EOS
  2. Sep 21

    Keith Greer: Stop Trying to Be Right and Start Getting Curious

    In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Keith, an executive coach and leadership development specialist, to explore how to stop trying to be right and start getting curious in our relationships, teams & organisations. Keith shares insights from his background in clinical social work, family therapy, executive coaching & Conversational Intelligence, explaining how quickly our brains begin assessing whether an interaction feels safe or threatening. He explores how much of that assessment happens through non-verbal communication, including tone, body language, eye contact, attention & listening behaviours. The conversation dives into why trust can be built through authentic curiosity & genuine listening, and how easily it can be damaged when leaders interrupt, become distracted, make assumptions or enter conversations already convinced they know the answer. Keith encourages leaders to become more aware of the signals they are sending and to take responsibility for their own contribution to a relationship. Debra & Keith also explore what happens when trust has already been damaged. Rebuilding it requires courage, empathy & a willingness to acknowledge that a relationship has become difficult. Rather than allowing negative assumptions to grow, leaders can create space to discuss what each person needs & make the invisible dynamics visible. This episode is a valuable listen for leaders, entrepreneurs & family business owners who want to understand how everyday conversations can either build or break trust, and how becoming more intentional about communication can transform the way people work together. CONNECT WITH DEBRA:    ___________________________________________         ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ►Claim Your Free E-Book: https://www.businessaction.co.nz/free-e-book/ ___________________________________________       GUEST’S DETAILS: ► Keith Greer – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-greer-l-c-s-w-p-c-c-81256a130/ ► Website – Keith Greer Coaching – https://www.keithgreercoaching.com/ Ep 290 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 00:36 – Keith Grier’s Professional Journey 06:35 – The Science of Conversational Intelligence 12:52 – Building Trust Through Communication 17:18 – Navigating Difficult Conversations 21:27 – Dynamics in Family Businesses 32:47 – Implementing Trust and Safety Agreements 54:17 – Managing Personalities and Styles 54:57 – Key Takeaways for Effective Leadership

    Keith Greer: Stop Trying to Be Right and Start Getting Curious
  3. Sep 14

    Debra Chantry-Taylor: The Scorecard Mistakes That Keep Leaders Flying Blind

    In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor explores why leaders flying blind can put an entire business at risk, and how the right data can give leadership teams the visibility they need to make better decisions. Debra explains why businesses rarely fail without warning. Before major problems appear, there are usually subtle signals hiding in the numbers, from declining sales and increasing debtor days to changes in customer behaviour and operational performance. The challenge is knowing which numbers actually matter and using them early enough to do something about them. A key focus of the episode is the difference between leading and lagging indicators. Revenue, profit & customer loss tell you what has already happened, while measures such as sales calls, proposals sent & other activity-based indicators can provide an early warning of what is likely to happen next. Debra explains how leaders can reverse engineer their desired outcomes to identify the activities that will influence future results. Debra also explores why a Scorecard should work like a car dashboard. It does not need to tell you exactly what has gone wrong, but it should alert you to where you need to look before a small issue becomes a major problem. Keeping the leadership Scorecard to five to fifteen critical numbers makes it easier to spot trends without overwhelming the team with unnecessary data. Ultimately, this episode is about replacing hope & hindsight with visibility and action. A strong Scorecard gives leaders the information they need to spot problems early, investigate what is really happening & make course corrections before issues become catastrophic. If your leadership team is making decisions based on gut feel, outdated financial reports or numbers that tell you what happened rather than what is coming next, this episode will help you build a Scorecard that keeps you from flying blind. CONNECT WITH DEBRA:    ___________________________________________         ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra.chantry-taylor@eosworldwide.com ►EOS Worldwide Website: Debra Chantry-Taylor | EOS Implementer | EOS Worldwide Ep 289 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 00:47 – The Purpose of Data 07:58 – Leading and Lagging Indicators 13:40 – The Pitfalls of Bad Data 18:03 – Managing People with Numbers 23:25 – Common Scorecard Mistakes 27:00 – Building an Effective Scorecard

    Debra Chantry-Taylor: The Scorecard Mistakes That Keep Leaders Flying Blind
  4. Sep 7

    Bobby Rouse: Why Picking and Choosing EOS Tools Doesn't Work

    In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Bobby Rouse to explore the risks of picking and choosing EOS tools instead of embracing EOS® as a complete operating system. Bobby shares his journey from growing up on a farm in Idaho to becoming a serial entrepreneur and Professional EOS Implementer®. His experiences across management, technology & business helped him recognise the value of EOS as a practical framework for creating clarity, discipline & stronger leadership teams. A key theme throughout the conversation is that EOS works because the tools are designed to work together. Bobby explains that businesses do not change simply because they introduce a Level 10 Meeting® or a Scorecard. Real change happens when the people within the organisation change how they think, communicate, make decisions & hold one another accountable. Debra & Bobby discuss why businesses that self-implement often fall into the trap of picking and choosing EOS tools. A leadership team might adopt Level 10 Meetings or create a Scorecard while overlooking foundational tools such as the Accountability Chart® and People Analyzer®. While this can create some improvement, it rarely delivers the full transformation EOS is designed to create. Bobby & Debra also unpack the importance of keeping Scorecards simple. Using a scuba diving analogy, Bobby explains that leaders do not need hundreds of numbers to understand whether a business is healthy. They need the handful of critical numbers that tell them whether they are heading in the right direction. The episode goes beyond business implementation too, with practical advice on staying in your designated seat, using your calendar to architect your life & taking regular Clarity Breaks when pressure and uncertainty increase. Bobby also shares the “Is it true? Is it helpful? Is it kind?” framework as a useful way to challenge the stories & communication patterns that can affect both teams and individuals. CONNECT WITH DEBRA:    ___________________________________________         ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra.chantry-taylor@eosworldwide.com ►EOS Worldwide Website: Debra Chantry-Taylor | EOS Implementer | EOS Worldwide ___________________________________________       GUEST’S DETAILS: ► Bobby Rouse – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobby-rouse-2887613/ ► Website – EOS Worldwide – Bobby Rouse | EOS Implementer | EOS Worldwide Ep 288 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 00:14 – The Impact of Traction 31:44 – Becoming an EOS Implementer 31:56 – Space Learning and Implementation Mastery 32:09 – Self-Implementation vs Professional Help 32:19 – Effective Data and Scorecards 41:26 – Essential Business Tips

    Bobby Rouse: Why Picking and Choosing EOS Tools Doesn't Work
  5. Aug 31

    Mathis Young: The Systems That Took His Business From Struggling to Scaling

    In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Mathis Young, a former dog grooming franchise owner and now Professional EOS Implementer®, to explore his journey from struggling to scaling a business. Mathis shares how he went from struggling with the day-to-day demands of running a dog grooming franchise, including managing appointments, grooming dogs & dealing with the stress of being constantly needed, to building the largest franchise in the USA. A major turning point came when Mathis recognised that he could not continue doing everything himself. Hiring his first manager, Steve, gave him the support & perspective he needed to step away from the operational side of the business and focus on growth. Mathis explains how having the right people in the right seats became a crucial part of his journey. His experience with Vistage during the challenges of COVID-19 eventually introduced him to EOS®. Although initially sceptical, Mathis discovered how the EOS framework could bring structure, accountability & clarity to his growing business. Through tools such as the Level 10 Meeting®, Accountability Chart® & Scorecard, his leadership team developed stronger communication, clearer priorities & greater ownership. The conversation also highlights the importance of asking for help, surrounding yourself with a supportive network & being willing to learn from others. Mathis shares how mentors, peer groups & the EOS community helped him achieve not only greater business success but also more peace & fulfilment. If you’re feeling stuck in your business, doing too much yourself, or wondering what it takes to scale successfully, this episode offers an honest & inspiring look at what can happen when you ask for help, build the right team & create the structure needed to grow. CONNECT WITH DEBRA:    ___________________________________________         ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra.chantry-taylor@eosworldwide.com ►EOS Worldwide: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/debra-chantry-taylor/ ___________________________________________       GUEST’S DETAILS: ► Mathis Young – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathisyoung/ ► Website – EOS Worldwide – https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/mathis-young/ Ep 287 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction 00:32 – Mathis Young’s Journey to Entrepreneurship 02:33 – Mathis’ Entry Into the Dog Grooming Franchise 05:23 – The Turning Point: Hiring a Manager 08:48 – Joining Vistage and Discovering EOS® 11:42 – Implementing EOS® and Its Impact 25:14 – Transitioning to an EOS Implementer® 31:11 – Mathis’ Approach as an EOS Implementer® 34:31 – Challenges and Successes with Clients 40:54 – Mathis’ Personal Reflections

    Mathis Young: The Systems That Took His Business From Struggling to Scaling
  6. Aug 29

    Enable Me to The Next Level with Jono Bredin

    Financial wellbeing is one of the single biggest causes of stress for Kiwis. And money is a very emotional thing. Having forged a career as a tax specialist, business owner and Chartered Accountant, Jono Bredin is the proud CEO of Enable.Me - a business whose core purpose is to change the financial lives of hardworking New Zealanders. Enable Me has been around for the last 14-15 years and is the brainchild of Hannah McQueen, an amazing human who revolutionised the way Kiwis think about their finances. Jono shares how Hannah is a Visionary, with all the incredible ideas at rapid pace. He stepped in to run alongside her & help her with some of the heavy lifting, so that she could focus on what she is best at. That's what really brought EOS to the front of his mind as a tool that could take Enable Me to that next level - being able to harness the absolute best of Hannah in an organised way. He shares how they started implementing with 15 people on their leadership team, and through EOS introducing more rigor and accountability to these roles, they now have a leadership team of 6. Not only is Jono the CEO & Integrator, he is also a customer of Enable.Me. "What sticks with me, as I went through my journey, was that I thought I was good with money. I was an accountant. But when you actually turn up the dial, what are you frittering away each week? And how could we be using that to get you ahead faster? For people who've got family, how do we help them achieve the goals that they've got for their children and for the next generation? We are ultimately trying to build out a personal or a family's cash surplus, that's the first stage of the journey. Then it's how do we put that surplus to work? How can it be multiplied by doing things in a certain way?" Every person in New Zealand can use financial literacy and financial accountability to get ahead faster. Even those people who think they are good with money, Jono included, can benefit from a layer of accountability that Enable Me provides. In his spare time, Jono is a National Rugby Referee, having also officiated Netball to the highest international level. Jono's biggest challenge is being the proud Dad of three kids 5 years old and under!

    Enable Me to The Next Level with Jono Bredin

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Better Business Better Life is about one simple idea: a better business should help you create a better life. Are you doing work you genuinely enjoy, with people you respect, making a meaningful difference, being rewarded appropriately & still having time for the people, experiences & passions that matter outside work? Too many business owners build businesses that eventually begin to control their lives rather than support them. As Carefrontational Changemakers, Debra & Adam are passionate about helping business owners & leaders have the conversations, make the changes & build the structur