The Journey of Realizing Empathy

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What happens, when a CEO admits, “I don’t know?”   In this show, I invite CEOs into an empathic conversation about a question they don’t have an answer to.   I wrote about the power of such conversations in my book, *Realizing Empathy*. Here, I put it into practice with CEOs willing to do something rare: admit what they don’t know and share the process of discovering an answer in real-time.   I believe what makes great CEOs great isn’t that they have all the answers.   It’s that they have the courage to go on a journey of discovery when they don’t.   This show is a glimpse into that process.

  1. Aug 3

    I don’t know how to grow into what I perceive as the CEO role without losing control over the company and product quality.

    In our 7th episode of the season, we host Qi Cao, Founder-CEO of Chargeblast. In a matter of just 3 years, Qi has grown Chargeblast from 0 to 8 figures in revenue. During this time, the organization has also gone from just him and his 2 co-founders to over 200 employees. With such fast growth, Qi is now faced with the challenges that come with scale. In this episode, we explore his inquiry into how he can grow into what he perceives as the CEO role without losing control over the company and product quality. Let the empathic conversation begin. ----- Guest Bio: Qi is the CEO of Chargeblast. He participates in sales, manages operations and support, and aligning the company on a common vision and goal.Prior to Chargeblast, Qi was a long/short hedge fund analyst at Point72. He also has had operational and strategy consulting experience at Indigo Ag and ClearView Healthcare Partners, respectively. He graduated with a Bachelor’s of Science in Molecular and Cellular Biology from Yale University.

    I don’t know how to grow into what I perceive as the CEO role without losing control over the company and product quality.

  2. 03/03/2025

    I don’t know how to manage my fear of losing control as my startup scales. / Imran Syed

    In our sixth episode of the season, we host Imran Syed, Founder-CEO of Hatchproof. Prior to Founding Hatchproof, Imran was the CEO of Instapage, There, he witnessed the Founder losing control, which left an impression on him. In this episode, we explore his inquiry into how he can manage his fear of losing control in the same way. Let the empathic conversation begin. Guest Bio: Imran Syed is the visionary founder of Hatchproof, a platform born out of his personal experience with the challenges of hiring, team building, and employee retention in the fast-paced tech industry. After witnessing the significant impact of employee turnover on business success in his role as COO and eventually CEO at Instapage, Imran was driven to create a solution that leverages behavioral science and AI to help organizations build more cohesive, aligned, and productive teams. With over 20 years in technology and leadership with a successful exit under his belt, Imran is passionate about sharing insights on how to harness these tools to transform workplace culture and drive sustainable growth.

    I don’t know how to manage my fear of losing control as my startup scales. / Imran Syed

  3. 12/29/2023

    I don’t know how to Make Good Decisions on a Regular Basis. / Kartik Kumar

    In our fifth episode of the season, we host Kartik Kumar, Founder-CEO of SatSearch. Since the founding of his company, Khartik aspired to promote a self-organizing team. But there came a time when such promotion led to chaos that made him to question not only this decision, but also the very process he has been using thus far _to_ make decisions. In this episode, we explore his inquiry into how a leader can make good decisions on a regular basis. Guest Bio: Kartik is co-founder and CEO at satsearch, building "Amazon for the space industry". As a space engineer, Kartik is passionate about opening up access to the burgeoning sector and believes that building an open marketplace is a path towards driving the commercial engine of the industry. Kartik studied Aerospace Engineering at Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands, and has worked across multiple organizations and countries, in academia and industry, on space projects and initiatives.

    I don’t know how to Make Good Decisions on a Regular Basis. / Kartik Kumar

  4. 08/23/2023

    I don’t know how to Feel Like It’s Okay to Tell my Story. / Chris Prange-Morgan

    In our fourth episode of the season, we host Chris Prange-Morgan, Author of “Broken, Brave and Bittersweet.” Chris wants to tell her story in way that does not make her feel selfish. While she is not our typical Founder guest, I know many Founders who go through the same struggle when sharing their story. So in this episode, we explore Chris’ inquiry into this challenge of telling our story. Guest Bio: Chris Prange-Morgan, M.A., MSW, considers herself a student of all types of trauma. The adoption of her son in 2009 immersed her in issues of developmental trauma, which have continued to have a life-changing impact on her family. Prange-Morgan has sought to better understand collective and generational trauma and its effect on individuals after she suffered a life-changing accident in 2011 and became a trauma survivor herself. Prange-Morgan’s story has been featured on The Today Show, The Trauma Therapist Project, CBS, The No Barriers Podcast, Milwaukee Magazine, The Institute for Healthcare Improvement, and The Conversation Project. Her articles have appeared in The Huffington Post, Psychology Today, Amplitude magazine, Able Outdoors Magazine, CPTSD Foundation, The Mighty, Elephant Journal, and Tiny Buddha.Before becoming a parent, Prange-Morgan worked for more than 10 years as a mental health therapist and social worker with adults in the criminal justice system—most of whom had histories of trauma. She has a Master’s degree in social work from Loyola University Chicago, a Certificate of advanced graduate study in pastoral counseling from Neuman College, and a Master of Arts in religious studies from Cardinal Stritch University. While these clinical degrees have been helpful, most of the knowledge and wisdom she has gained has come from her own life experience and learning to listen with a retrospective lens. Prange-Morgan gained the invaluable skill of sitting with painful emotions by providing clinical pastoral care to hospitalized patients. She sees them as vehicles to understanding.Prange-Morgan has presented to an array of educational and healthcare institutions on the topics of trauma, disability, adoption, grief, and loss. She and her husband, Scott (a school psychologist), have a podcast and website, Full Catastrophe Parenting, dedicated to helping parents and professionals in the trenches of working with challenging family/life circumstances. Chris continues to provide coaching, speaking, consulting and retreat work. Her memoir, Broken, Brave & Bittersweet- forging fiercely through disability, parenthood and other misadventures will be released in May 2023.

    I don’t know how to Feel Like It’s Okay to Tell my Story. / Chris Prange-Morgan

  5. 07/23/2023

    I don’t know how to Balance the Long-Term with the Short-Term. / Tim Weber

    In our third episode of the season, we host Tim Weber, Founder and CEO of The Artists Uncut. Tim wants to create a corporate environment, where people feel rewarded on a daily basis, not overwhelmed thinking about the big picture. He is worried that his inability to balance the big picture thinking with the celebration of the every day is preventing him from creating such an environment. In this episode, we explore Tim's inquiry into this very balancing of the long-term vs the short-term. Guest Bio: Tim is an innovative entrepreneur focused on having an artist's best interests be at the forefront of every venture. Passionate and experienced at disrupting the music industry using technology, data, resources, and funding. Founder of GoodMusicAllDay LLC (sold in 2016), Catalog Masters LLC, The Artists Uncut, GMAD Services, and BestFromTheWeb. Founding partner of MyArtistPage and IndieAmplify. Industry consultant with proven track record identifying emerging talent and catalyzing careers. Created a global platform (GMAD) for musicians to be discovered. Recognized by Complex, VIBE, and MTV as an integral part in helping the following artists quickly explode: Macklemore (2009), Krewella (2010), Mike Posner (2009), Mac Miller (2009), Wiz Khalifa (2009), Timeflies (2011), Hoodie Allen (2010), Sam Adams (2009), Mike Stud (2011), Chris Webby (2009), KYLE (2012), and many more. Produced mixtapes for clients such as TOYOTA USA, ESPN, Rockstar Games, VIBE and Coors Light. https://realizingempathy.com/podcast/ Music License #: 62191594965 "Subtle Illusion"

    I don’t know how to Balance the Long-Term with the Short-Term. / Tim Weber

  6. 06/13/2023

    I don’t know how to Build a Company Culture from Scratch. / Luke Segars

    In our second episode of the season, we host Luke Segars, Co-Founder and CTO of Subsalt. Having experienced both the positive and the negative impact of culture, Luke wants to ensure that the company he leads becomes an example of the former. In this episode, we explore his inquiry into building such a culture from scratch. Guest Bio: Luke is the CTO / co-founder of Subsalt, a data infrastructure startup helping companies make better use of sensitive data. He's spent his career making complex products easy to use at both large corporations (Google) and smaller startups (Passport, Iron Yard) in product and technical roles. https://lukesegars.com/ https://www.getsubsalt.com/ https://realizingempathy.com/podcast/ Music License #: 62191594965 "Subtle Illusion"

    I don’t know how to Build a Company Culture from Scratch. / Luke Segars

  7. 05/08/2023

    I don’t know how to Be More Compassionate with Myself. / Priya Amin

    Welcome back to “The Journey of Realizing Empathy.” We have returned with Season 2! In our inaugural episode, we host Priya Amin, former Founder and CEO of Flexable. During COVID, Priya had to close Flexable down both because of financial strain and her own personal burnout. In this episode, we explore her inquiry into being more compassionate with herself as she moves through the next phase of her entrepreneurial journey. Guest Bio: Priya Amin is an entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, seasoned marketer and mother to two boys, Ronin and Kirin. Pryia holds an MBA from the University of Arizona, and worked as a product and brand manager at corporations such as IBM and Nestle. In 2012, she left her high-powered career to be home with her two boys, and never looked back. After successfully launching and running a marketing consulting firm called ROKI, she began looking for ways to continue fostering creativity and entrepreneurship among women. She launched Flexable, LLC in 2016 which gained regional and national attention for providing innovative childcare solutions, most notably on-site childcare at offices and events.  After exiting Flexable, LLC, Priya consulted with various organizations across the country, including a startup in the Bay Area, a Fortune 500 company in Pittsburgh and a nationally ranked university in Pittsburgh. She is now the Entrepreneur in Residence at the University of Pittsburgh. Priya’s passion has been cultivating life & work fit—not only for herself, but for working parents everywhere. Priya loves running, kayaking, crocheting and spending time with her family and their dog Sadie. https://realizingempathy.com/podcast/ Music License #: 62191594965 "Subtle Illusion"

    I don’t know how to Be More Compassionate with Myself. / Priya Amin

  8. Season 2 Trailer

    [Trailer] Season 2: The Journey of Realizing Empathy

    First episode of "The Journey of Realizing Empathy" will be broadcast on May 8th (Mon).

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What happens, when a CEO admits, “I don’t know?”   In this show, I invite CEOs into an empathic conversation about a question they don’t have an answer to.   I wrote about the power of such conversations in my book, *Realizing Empathy*. Here, I put it into practice with CEOs willing to do something rare: admit what they don’t know and share the process of discovering an answer in real-time.   I believe what makes great CEOs great isn’t that they have all the answers.   It’s that they have the courage to go on a journey of discovery when they don’t.   This show is a glimpse into that process.

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