The AltBrau Podcast

Good Beer Hunting

The AltBrau Podcast, part of the Good Beer Hunting network, is where we talk to the outliers in beer—the people whose work and passions might indicate a more interesting future. Host Tim Decker is a wild ale producer himself, so this is also his journey, chronicling the people and places that make us think differently about what we do.

Episodes

  1. Episode 007—Jerry Franck of Bottle Conditioned

    04/06/2021

    Episode 007—Jerry Franck of Bottle Conditioned

    What the hell am I drinking? This is sour, bitter, and smells more like cheese than it does any beer I've had before. That was the thought that ran through my head the first time I tried Gueuze… the infamous beer from Belgium's Senne Valley region. Gueuze is a blend consisting of multiple years of spontaneously fermented golden ale aged in oak. These unblended components are called lambic. You'd think that after that early experience I would never reconsider such beers. But... just as I forced myself to eat the olives I hated as a child because I saw adults enjoying them... I not only got used to the complex layers of flavor and aroma but I learned to love it. Lambic has this effect on people. It has created a relatively small but extremely devout following of enthusiast from around the world. Proof of this can be found in any number of facebook groups where members show off their private cellars… some bigger than my current apartment. I've personally seen single large format bottles of fruited lambic sell at auction for several thousand dollars. So what is it that's so magical about this historic beer style that nearly went extinct in the years following World War II? On today's show we speak to Jerry Franck… an academy award nominated film maker who found himself entranced by lambic and the unique cast of characters who brew and blend them. Over the last few years, Jerry and his small team have been gathering and editing footage for their upcoming documentary "Bottle Conditioned" that tells the story of lambic and its place in the world.

    42 min
  2. Ep 005—Arnaud Goethals of Vive la Tarte

    03/09/2021

    Ep 005—Arnaud Goethals of Vive la Tarte

    The San Francisco Bay Area has long been known for its impressive food and beverage scene. With its numerous Michelin-starred restaurants, award-winning bakeries, and early craft beer adopters, the city has come to be seen as a land of culinary opportunity.  That is, until COVID-19 hit. In reality, the pandemic is only the most recent challenge facing the city's food and drink businesses. Soaring rent prices over the last decade have forced many Bay Area natives to relocate, while firms like Twitter, Uber, Dropbox, Lyft, and GitHub have moved in. Within the last year, a mass exodus of programmers and other tech workers from their offices have left many bars, restaurants, and cafes located in the Financial District and SoMa (South of Market) neighborhoods without their normal lunchtime and after-work crowds. Given that many of these establishments are located far from residential areas and are surrounded by expensive parking meters, even to-go orders been a non-starter. Today, there doesn't seem to be much relief in site. Despite having spent over $1 billion on the tallest building in the city, cloud computing behemoth Salesforce announced a few weeks ago that it would no longer enforce traditional 9-to-5 work days, and would encourage the continuation of work-from-home policies for its employees (who number more than 9,000 in San Francisco alone).  With over 2,000 local businesses having closed permanently during the pandemic, what do these difficult conditions mean for hopeful entrepreneurs here in the Bay Area? On today's episode, I'm speaking to Arnaud Goethals. Arnaud, along with his wife Julie Vandermeersch, is the co-owner of Vive la Tarte, a bakery and cafe in San Francisco. Recently, it had to close its locations in the historic Ferry Building on the waterfront, as well as its original location on Howard Street, two doors down from Cellarmaker Brewing Company. I first met Arnaud when my wife worked at Vive la Tarte. We quickly connected over our love of beers from his homeland of Belgium. Throughout our friendship, Arnaud has struck me as someone who sees the industry, and his place in it, from a uniquely broad and incisive perspective, and I wanted to hear his thoughts about the future of hospitality in the Bay Area.

    49 min
  3. Episode 004—Nick Impellitteri of The Yeast Bay

    02/23/2021

    Episode 004—Nick Impellitteri of The Yeast Bay

    Contract brewing and alternating proprietorship business models were once shunned by previous generations of brewers. Many lobbed accusations that without their own brick-and-mortar locations, the beer start-ups that pursued these models didn't have enough "skin in the game." But since then, this approach to the business of brewing has become fairly common among hopeful entrepreneurs looking for a flexible, less risky way to enter the industry. In recent years, breweries like Sweden's Omnipollo, California's Almanac Beer Company, Maryland's Stillwater Artisan Ales, plus Evil Twin Brewing in New York and Mikkeller in Denmark (led by their infamous pair of feuding twin brothers) all built their businesses this way, and have later gone on to invest in their own breweries or bars after proving themselves with this model. Their example makes it clear that this method is no longer reserved for those making private-label beers for giant corporations and restaurant chains. I, too, find myself looking at a possible shared space for my own brewing project instead of investing heavily in my own build-out. So how does one apply this model to another industry—one that's directly connected to the brewing supply chain? Nick Impellitteri of The Yeast Bay in Portland, Oregon runs a boutique microbiology lab that supplies the beer industry with a wide variety of yeasts and bacteria. Most of his production is housed at a much bigger facility, home to perhaps the biggest name in craft yeast: White Labs in San Diego, California. On today's episode, I speak with Nick about where he sources his yeast, what's new from the Yeast Bay, and how he runs the business according to this same alternating proprietorship model. We also go deep into the results from a bio-prospecting hike we did together in the hills outside Berkeley, California, where we captured some microbes Nick is very excited about. Contract brewing and alternating proprietorship business models were once shunned by previous generations of brewers. Many lobbed accusations that without their own brick-and-mortar locations, the beer start-ups that pursued these models didn't have enough "skin in the game." But since then, this approach to the business of brewing has become fairly common among hopeful entrepreneurs looking for a flexible, less risky way to enter the industry.   In recent years, breweries like Sweden's Omnipollo, California's Almanac Beer Company, Maryland's Stillwater Artisan Ales, plus Evil Twin Brewing in New York and Mikkeller in Denmark (led by their infamous pair of feuding twin brothers) all built their businesses this way, and have later gone on to invest in their own breweries or bars after proving themselves with this model. Their example makes it clear that this method is no longer reserved for those making private-label beers for giant corporations and restaurant chains. I, too, find myself looking at a possible shared space for my own brewing project instead of investing heavily in my own build-out.   So how does one apply this model to another industry—one that's directly connected to the brewing supply chain?   Nick Impellitteri of The Yeast Bay in Portland, Oregon runs a boutique microbiology lab that supplies the beer industry with a wide variety of yeasts and bacteria. Most of his production is housed at a much bigger facility, home to perhaps the biggest name in craft yeast: White Labs in San Diego, California.   On today's episode, I speak with Nick about where he sources his yeast, what's new from the Yeast Bay, and how he runs the business according to this same alternating proprietorship model. We also go deep into the results from a bio-prospecting hike we did together in the hills outside Berkeley, California, where we captured some microbes Nick is very excited about.

    50 min
  4. Episode 002—Felipe Bravo and Wendy Gayl of the Fox Tale Fermentation Project

    01/26/2021

    Episode 002—Felipe Bravo and Wendy Gayl of the Fox Tale Fermentation Project

    While buzzwords like "juicy," "dank," and "haze" characterize the latest generation of hoppy beers, contemporary sour beers are increasingly dessert-like (and often brewed with sweet, unfermented fruit slurry), as well as less dependent on European brewing traditions. As a result, these modern-day sours have higher ABVs than more classical, malt-forward beers, and are dominated by every variety of sugary adjunct. Against that backdrop of extremes, where does a startup sour brewery fit into the industry when their flavor profiles aim for balance, nuance, and seasonal, garden inspiration instead? Wendy Gayl and Felipe Bravo of the Fox Tale Fermentation Project in San Jose, California are entering the beer market on a very small scale. Taking inspiration from their combined background in food and brewing, they hope to find a local following for their beers, and to add local fruits, vegetables, herbs, and botanicals to their releases, all applied with a gentle hand. In today's episode, we discuss brand and product development, various approaches to making farmhouse-inspired beers, and mixed-fermentation techniques. We also talk about their plans to grow from homebrewing in their Bay Area garage to opening a nanobrewery, where they will serve their unique beers alongside plated experiments in food fermentation. This is Felipe Bravo and Wendy Gayl from the Fox Tale Fermentation Project.

    33 min
4.6
out of 5
11 Ratings

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The AltBrau Podcast, part of the Good Beer Hunting network, is where we talk to the outliers in beer—the people whose work and passions might indicate a more interesting future. Host Tim Decker is a wild ale producer himself, so this is also his journey, chronicling the people and places that make us think differently about what we do.