Studying Law Around the World

Claudio Klaus

A podcast with more than 60 hours of conversations with lawyers, professors, and students from over 20 countries. Each episode shows how people study law, build careers across borders, handle setbacks, and find purpose in their work. You will hear clear advice, practical tips, and global insights from different legal systems and top schools. A useful guide for anyone interested in law school experiences, law career advice, legal industry insights, and the views of legal scholars. Selected episodes accredited by the Law Society of Ontario and the Law Society of British Columbia. ISSN 2819 733X

  1. AI Governance, Privacy Placebos, and the Global Legal Career with Tainá Baylão

    3d ago

    AI Governance, Privacy Placebos, and the Global Legal Career with Tainá Baylão

    ISSN 2819-733X One of the most exciting opportunities in the modern legal profession is the ability to build a truly borderless career. Legal careers are shaped less by credentials and more by communication, and almost no one teaches that early enough. I want to make that invisible part of the profession visible today. This week on Studying Law Around the World, I had the absolute pleasure of hosting Tainá Baylão. Tainá is a dual qualified lawyer from Brazil and Portugal who successfully navigated her career through Canada and Germany before landing in Switzerland, where she currently serves as Global Privacy Counsel for Roche. In this episode, she generously shares the invisible mechanics of moving across borders, mastering AI governance, and navigating the dynamic world of data protection. What you will learn The Global Legal Career: Why practice areas heavily influenced by international conventions, like privacy and data protection, offer incredible flexibility to cross borders and work in completely new jurisdictions. Avoiding Privacy Placebos: Why meaningless consent flows and excessive checkboxes offer zero real compliance value and actually harm the overarching goals of the business. Becoming a Business Enabler: How gaining a basic understanding of technical tools prevents you from becoming a "business blocker" and turns you into a highly valued strategic partner for IT and marketing teams. Why this mattersFor junior lawyers looking to move abroad, the path can often feel impossible. Tainá proves that with the right niche and a focus on adaptability, borders become entirely manageable. Furthermore, she highlights an unspoken rule of corporate practice: technical knowledge alone is never enough. If you cannot explain complex privacy or AI regulations in plain language to the developers building the product, you will struggle to gain visibility. By dropping the legal jargon and focusing on practical solutions, you transform compliance from a corporate burden into a true competitive advantage. Three takeaways Eliminate privacy placebos. Do not implement compliance steps just for the sake of looking busy. If a checkbox or a forced policy agreement does not offer real legal protection or genuinely benefit the user experience, it is a meaningless point of friction. Embrace technical curiosity. You do not need to be a software engineer, but you must understand the basics of the technology you are advising on. Use AI tools to translate complex technical concepts into plain language before you walk into a meeting with your tech team. Build your personal brand. Technical excellence is expected, but visibility is what actually drives your career forward. Do not quietly wait to be noticed. Share your accomplishments, network actively, and find mentors who will champion your work in the rooms you are not yet in. Guest: Tainá Baylão, Global Privacy Counsel at Roche. Tainá is a privacy and data protection specialist, AI governance expert, and a passionate advocate for building international legal careers. Where to listen and how to support the showSearch Studying Law Around the World on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. If you found value in this episode, please take a moment to follow or subscribe to the show on your platform of choice. Leaving a rating and review is the best way to support the podcast, helping us continue to grow and bring these invisible rules of the legal profession to more junior lawyers around the world. Selected episodes of Studying Law Around the World are eligible for Continuing Professional Development (CPD) credit with the Law Society of Ontario (LSO) and Continuing Legal Education (CLE/CPD) credit with the Law Society of British Columbia (LSBC). For approved episodes, accreditation details, and participation information, please visit: ⁠https://law-learn-link.base44.app/Episodes

    26 min
  2. From Risk Minimization to Value Creation: The Human-Centric Legal Leader with Jonathan Cullen

    Jun 25

    From Risk Minimization to Value Creation: The Human-Centric Legal Leader with Jonathan Cullen

    ISSN 2819-733X One of the most profound realizations a lawyer can make is that the very skills that brought them early success are often the exact same skills holding them back from executive leadership. Legal careers are shaped far less by technical credentials and much more by how we communicate and adapt. I want to make the invisible rules of that transition visible today. What mistake do junior lawyers make because no one explained this? They assume their only job is to be right. In this week's episode of Studying Law Around the World, I sat down with Jonathan Cullen. Jonathan is a former corporate lawyer and executive coach who spent 18 years at Pfizer, eventually leading legal teams across Canada, France, and Latin America. He generously shared the mechanics of unlearning the strict "lawyer mindset" to become a true business leader. What you will learn The Transition from Lawyer to Leader: Why technical excellence is necessary but not sufficient. Jonathan explains why lawyers must "unlearn" their reliance on analysis paralysis and extreme risk aversion in order to prioritize the speed and value creation required in business. The Power of a Varied Diet: How intellectual curiosity and reading outside of the law (such as history, psychology, and biographies) trains your brain to connect seemingly unrelated dots, allowing you to see commercial opportunities your competitors miss. Why this mattersWe are heavily rewarded in law school and early practice for spotting risks and avoiding mistakes. But if your only contribution is identifying problems, the best you will ever do is return your client to yesterday's status quo. To truly accelerate your career, you must shift your mindset from merely protecting the organization to actively identifying new commercial opportunities. This requires learning to communicate with clarity, brevity, and deep empathy for the people working alongside you. Three takeaways Unlearn to level up. The meticulous attention to detail and intense focus on finding the "perfect" answer that got you through law school will actively slow you down in a business environment. You must learn when to let go of the caveats and prioritize speed and commercial reality. Read outside the law. Do not limit your intellectual inputs to legal texts and industry updates. Having a varied diet of learning gives you the unique ability to approach problems from unexpected angles, making your advice vastly more valuable to your clients. Everybody is dealing with something. True leadership requires recognizing that every single colleague is navigating their own personal challenges behind the scenes. Providing grace and support during those times is not just compassionate; it builds an incredibly resilient and dedicated team. Guest: Jonathan Cullen, Executive Coach and Consultant. Jonathan is a former regional legal lead at Pfizer, dedicated to supporting individual lawyers in their career growth and helping law firms develop their talent systems. Where to listen and how to support the showSearch Studying Law Around the World on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. If you found value in this episode, please take a moment to follow or subscribe to the show on your platform of choice. Leaving a rating and review is the best way to support the podcast, helping us continue to grow and bring these invisible rules of the legal profession to more junior lawyers around the world. Selected episodes of Studying Law Around the World are eligible for Continuing Professional Development (CPD) credit with the Law Society of Ontario, for approved episodes, accreditation details, and participation information, please visit:⁠ https://law-learn-link.base44.app/Episodes

    38 min
  3. From Big Law to Juice Bars to General Counsel: Embracing the Builder Mindset with Heather Stevenson

    Jun 23

    From Big Law to Juice Bars to General Counsel: Embracing the Builder Mindset with Heather Stevenson

    On the newest episode of Studying Law Around the World, I sat down with Heather Stevenson. Her career path is anything but conventional. She started as a securities litigator at Sullivan and Cromwell, stepped away to co-found a juice bar, and eventually returned to the law to become the General Counsel at Red Cell Partners. She generously shared how letting go of the traditional "lawyer mask" is actually your greatest competitive advantage. What you will learn The Builder Mindset: Why the most successful lawyers operate as proactive business partners rather than a risk averse "department of no." Learning to Learn: How reading broadly outside of the law, including history and biographies, builds crucial professional judgment so you do not have to learn every lesson the hard way. Humanizing the Profession: Why being authentic, approachable, and letting go of professional stiffness makes colleagues more comfortable seeking your advice. Why this mattersWhat mistake do junior lawyers make because no one explained this? They assume they have to know exactly where their career is going. Heather proves that the most valuable professional experiences often come from unexpected pivots. Whether you are navigating the rapid implementation of AI tools or trying to secure a role in a completely new industry, your ability to communicate effectively and build genuine trust will open doors that a perfect resume simply cannot. Three takeaways Rethink your professional brand. Joy is a competitive advantage. You do not need to be the stiffest, most formal person in the room to be respected. Bringing your authentic self to work builds stronger, more honest client relationships. Embrace casual mentorship. Do not wait for formal mentorship programs to save you. Reach out to peers and professionals just a few years ahead of you. The Legal Mentor Network is a perfect example of how accessible and vital these informal relationships are. Protect your physical health. The early years of a legal career are heavily focused on learning, but that hustle should never come at the expense of your body. Prioritizing sleep and exercise is a non negotiable requirement for long term career survival. Guest: Heather Stevenson, General Counsel at Red Cell Partners and Founding Board Member of the Legal Mentor Network. Heather is dedicated to filling mentorship gaps for junior lawyers and advocating for a more human approach to the practice of law. Where to listen and how to support the showSearch Studying Law Around the World on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. If you found value in this episode, please take a moment to follow or subscribe to the show on your platform of choice. Leaving a rating and review is the best way to support the podcast, helping us continue to grow and bring these invisible rules of the legal profession to more junior lawyers around the world. Selected episodes of Studying Law Around the World are eligible for Continuing Professional Development (CPD) credit with the Law Society of Ontario (LSO) and Continuing Legal Education (CLE/CPD) credit with the Law Society of British Columbia (LSBC). For approved episodes, accreditation details, and participation information, please visit: ⁠https://law-learn-link.base44.app/Episodes

    24 min
  4. Law Firm Realities, The Generational Gap, and Building a Portable Reputation with Susan Van Dyke

    Jun 17

    Law Firm Realities, The Generational Gap, and Building a Portable Reputation with Susan Van Dyke

    One of the greatest misconceptions in the legal profession is that simply doing good work is enough to build a successful career. Legal careers are shaped less by credentials and more by communication, and no one teaches that early enough. I want to make that invisible part of the profession visible today. On the newest episode of Studying Law Around the World, I sat down with Susan Van Dyke. With nearly 30 years of experience in law firm management and as the founder of Lawyer Launcher, she has had a front row seat to how firms actually evaluate, hire, and promote talent. She generously shared the invisible mechanics of bridging the gap between law school and private practice: What mistake do junior lawyers make because no one explained this? They wait for instructions. Susan explains why partners are often overworked and deeply value juniors who anticipate needs, take initiative, and contribute to strategic thinking out loud. What is the unspoken rule of firm survival? Law firms are businesses first. You cannot rely on partners to feed you work forever. You must eventually take responsibility for developing your own practice and building authentic client relationships. What question should a new lawyer ask when starting out? How can I prioritize learning over earning? Susan shares why focusing on finding the right environment for your professional development will naturally lead to long term financial rewards, and why protecting your portable reputation is your greatest asset. If you want to understand how leadership actually views associates and how to position yourself for a sustainable career, this conversation is exactly what you need. Listen to the full episode, "Law Firm Realities, The Generational Gap, and Building a Portable Reputation with Susan Van Dyke," out now. Where to listen and how to support the show:Search Studying Law Around the World on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. If you found value in this episode, please take a moment to follow or subscribe to the show on your platform of choice. Leaving a rating and review is the best way to support the podcast, helping us continue to grow and bring these invisible rules of the legal profession to more junior lawyers around the world. Selected episodes of Studying Law Around the World are eligible for Continuing Professional Development (CPD) credit with the Law Society of Ontario (LSO) and Continuing Legal Education (CLE/CPD) credit with the Law Society of British Columbia (LSBC).For approved episodes, accreditation details, and participation information, please visit: ⁠https://law-learn-link.base44.app/Episodes

    21 min
  5. Human Rights Advocacy, International Law, and Finding Your Calling with Wissam al-Saliby

    Jun 16

    Human Rights Advocacy, International Law, and Finding Your Calling with Wissam al-Saliby

    ISSN 2819-733X One of the greatest opportunities in the legal profession is the ability to align your personal values with your daily practice. Legal careers are shaped less by credentials and more by communication, and almost no one teaches that early enough. I want to make that invisible part of the profession visible today. What mistake do junior lawyers make when planning their careers? They assume their personal values and their professional skills must exist in completely separate spheres. In this special installment of our Lawyers of Faith series, I sat down with Wissam al-Saliby, the president of 21 Wilberforce. Wissam transitioned from studying international law in Lebanon and France to leading a global organization dedicated to protecting human rights and freedom of belief. He generously shared the invisible mechanics of finding your calling and using your legal skills to serve others: What you will learn The Origins of Humanitarian Law: How the foundations of the International Committee of the Red Cross were deeply rooted in a Christian ethical framework focused on the sanctity of life. Navigating Global Human Rights: Why the majority of the global population still struggles to fully enjoy freedom of belief, and how legal advocates work to expand these protections worldwide. Integrating Personal Values: Practical steps for corporate lawyers and law students to incorporate human rights advocacy and meaningful pro bono work into their everyday practice. Why this mattersIt is easy to believe that meaningful human rights work is reserved exclusively for those working at the United Nations or massive non profit organizations. Wissam proves that the exact opposite is true. Finding a way to integrate your core values into your legal work is the ultimate key to a sustainable and fulfilling career. Whether you are actively seeking a role in international human rights or simply looking to take on pro bono work at a corporate firm, your unique background is a powerful tool for advocacy. Three takeaways Explore the intersection of values and practice. You do not need to abandon a traditional career path to do meaningful work. Taking short courses in humanitarian law or reading about refugee protection can help you identify pro bono opportunities that align with your personal calling. Volunteer your legal skills. Organizations dedicated to human rights and the protection of vulnerable populations are constantly looking for skilled legal professionals. Reach out and volunteer your time. Your ability to navigate complex systems is incredibly valuable to those in need. Listen to your calling. The most fulfilling careers are rarely linear. Remain open to unexpected pivots and unique opportunities. Letting your values guide your professional decisions will often lead you to places you never expected to go. Guest: Wissam al-Saliby, President of 21 Wilberforce. Wissam is an international legal expert and advocate dedicated to supporting global human rights, religious freedom, and peacemaking. Where to listen and how to support the showSearch Studying Law Around the World on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. If you found value in this episode, please take a moment to follow or subscribe to the show on your platform of choice. Leaving a rating and review is the best way to support the podcast, helping us continue to grow and bring these invisible rules of the legal profession to more junior lawyers around the world. Selected episodes of Studying Law Around the World are eligible for Continuing Professional Development (CPD) credit with the Law Society of Ontario (LSO) and Continuing Legal Education (CLE/CPD) credit with the Law Society of British Columbia (LSBC). For approved episodes, accreditation details, and participation information, please visit: ⁠https://law-learn-link.base44.app/Episodes

    19 min
  6. Open Source Law, Omni Jurisdictional AI, and AI Agents with Zacharie Laïk

    Jun 11

    Open Source Law, Omni Jurisdictional AI, and AI Agents with Zacharie Laïk

    This week on Studying Law Around the World, I have the absolute pleasure of hosting Zacharie Laïk. Zacharie is a French and US trained lawyer who transitioned from traditional firm practice to become the CEO of Goodlegal and the maintainer of Legal Data Hunter. In this episode, we explore how Zacharie built an autonomous AI agent that is currently indexing millions of legal documents across the globe, effectively creating the world's first open data layer for omni jurisdictional legal research. What you will learn The Shift to Scalable Work: How to transition from ephemeral legal tasks, like drafting memos that may never be read again, to building reusable and automated systems. Omni Jurisdictional AI: How open source AI agents are breaking down the fragmented silos of national legal databases to democratize access to the law. Redefining Legal Technology: Why treating artificial intelligence merely as a tool for cost reduction is a massive trap and why imagination is now your most valuable professional skill. Why this mattersFor junior lawyers and legal innovators, the fragmentation of global legal data has always been a massive barrier. Historically, comparing laws across borders required a huge budget and an international team of practitioners. Now, open source infrastructure is making that level of research accessible to everyone. Zacharie's journey proves that the future of our profession is not just about practicing within the strict confines of a single jurisdiction. It is about leveraging technology to build scalable tools that transcend borders and completely change what is possible in your daily practice. Three takeaways Avoid the cost reduction trap. If you only view AI as a way to do your current job faster and cheaper, you will eventually find the work boring and unfulfilling. The real opportunity lies in asking yourself what you can achieve today that was completely impossible just six months ago. Build lasting solutions. Traditional legal work is often ephemeral. Learning to leverage AI agents allows you to build repeatable workflows and automated systems that continue to generate value long after you create them. Your imagination is the only limit. With open source platforms like Legal Data Hunter, multi jurisdictional research is no longer prohibitively expensive. The barrier to global comparative law is no longer data access. The only true barrier remaining is your own creativity. Guest: Zacharie Laïk, CEO of Goodlegal and maintainer of Legal Data Hunter. Zacharie is a dual qualified lawyer who is passionate about organizing the world's legal data through autonomous AI agents. Where to listen and how to support the showSearch Studying Law Around the World on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. If you found value in this episode, please take a moment to follow or subscribe to the show on your platform of choice. Leaving a rating and review is the best way to support the podcast, helping us continue to grow and bring these invisible rules of the legal profession to more junior lawyers around the world. Selected episodes of Studying Law Around the World are eligible for Continuing Professional Development (CPD) credit with the Law Society of Ontario (LSO) and Continuing Legal Education (CLE/CPD) credit with the Law Society of British Columbia (LSBC).For approved episodes, accreditation details, and participation information, please visit: https://law-learn-link.base44.app/Episodes

    19 min
  7. Troubled Project Rescue, High Stakes Negotiation, and the Value of Being Wrong with Rob Pattison

    Jun 9

    Troubled Project Rescue, High Stakes Negotiation, and the Value of Being Wrong with Rob Pattison

    This week on Studying Law Around the World, I sat down with Rob Pattison. Rob is an expert in troubled project rescue, high stakes negotiation, and pre transaction due diligence. With decades of experience on both sides of the negotiating table for Canada's largest infrastructure projects, he shares the invisible mechanics of fixing broken contracts and resolving complex claims. What you will learn The Reality of P3 Projects: Why public private partnerships are inherently designed to transfer risk and how wishful thinking often leads contractors to underprice bids. Troubled Project Rescue: How the solution to a failing project is often found within the problem itself. Fixing broken deals requires acknowledging the limitations of legal rights and looking for mutual design or scope changes to fill financial holes. The Power of Humility: Why the secret to success in litigation and negotiation is walking through the world prepared to be wrong. Why this mattersFor junior lawyers, it is easy to hide behind the literal words of a contract or fall into the trap of becoming a commodity. Rob's insights prove that true professionals step back and look at the broader interests, reputation, and reality of the business. To have a real impact in this profession, you need the courage to tell your own team when they are wrong and the foresight to provide a level of strategic thinking that no artificial intelligence can replicate. Three takeaways Look beyond the page. All contracts are inherently incomplete. Taking a rigid position based purely on financial pressure rather than the actual commercial context destroys trust. You must consider the broader relationship and your long term reputation when navigating a dispute. Be your own toughest skeptic. If the only question you ask in litigation is how to win, you are setting yourself up for a terrible surprise. You must constantly ask how you could lose. The best lawyers are far more skeptical of their own team's narrative than they are of the opposing side's story. Do what only you can do. In an era of predictive computing and AI, anyone who provides replaceable work will eventually be replaced. Avoid becoming a commodity. Accept your weaknesses, focus intensely on your unique strengths, and do what only you can do in a way that only you can do it. Guest: Rob Pattison, Consultant specializing in troubled project rescue, high stakes negotiation, and pre transaction due diligence. Where to listen and how to support the showSearch Studying Law Around the World on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. If you found value in this episode, please take a moment to follow or subscribe to the show on your platform of choice. Leaving a rating and review is the best way to support the podcast, helping us continue to grow and bring these invisible rules of the legal profession to more junior lawyers around the world. Selected episodes of Studying Law Around the World are eligible for Continuing Professional Development (CPD) credit with the Law Society of Ontario (LSO) and Continuing Legal Education (CLE/CPD) credit with the Law Society of British Columbia (LSBC).For approved episodes, accreditation details, and participation information, please visit:⁠ https://law-learn-link.base44.app/Episodes

    41 min
  8. The Diversity Principle, The Marketplace of Ideas, and the "Brandeis Brief" with Professor David Oppenheimer

    Jun 7

    The Diversity Principle, The Marketplace of Ideas, and the "Brandeis Brief" with Professor David Oppenheimer

    ISSN 2819-733X This week on Studying Law Around the World, I have the incredible privilege of hosting Professor David Oppenheimer. Professor Oppenheimer is a clinical professor of law at UC Berkeley, the faculty co-director of the pro bono program, and the director of the Berkeley Center on Comparative Equality and Anti-Discrimination Law. In this episode, we discuss his newest book, The Diversity Principle: The Story of a Transformative Idea, exploring how the concept of diversity has evolved over two centuries, how social science influences legal strategy, and why practicing law requires an open heart. What you will learn The Educational Value of Diversity: Why diverse environments, including differences in nationality, religion, age, and background, consistently lead to better decision making and increased innovation. The Historical Roots of Diversity: How the concept of diversity in higher education actually dates back to 1810 with Wilhelm von Humboldt, eventually influencing the Mills and shaping Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.'s interpretation of the First Amendment. The Power of the "Brandeis Brief": Why incorporating social science and multidisciplinary research into legal advocacy can help you build far more effective and holistic arguments. Why this mattersFor junior and international lawyers, it is easy to feel like an outsider or worry that your distinct background is a disadvantage. Professor Oppenheimer flips this narrative completely. Your diverse perspective is not a liability; it is precisely what drives better, more innovative legal solutions. Furthermore, he reminds us that legal advocacy is not strictly confined to traditional case law. By thinking outside the box and drawing upon diverse disciplines, as seen with the historical "Brandeis brief", you can craft strategies that change the course of legal history. Three takeaways Seek out diverse environments. To build a truly impactful career, actively pursue opportunities to engage with and learn from diverse groups and perspectives. This will enrich your understanding of the law and make you a more creative problem solver. Embrace multidisciplinary research. Do not limit your arguments to strict legal precedent. Modern legal history, including the foundational arguments in major civil rights cases, was built by lawyers who integrated social sciences into their advocacy. Practice law as a healer. Legal practice is fundamentally a helping profession. Clients come to us when they are in pain or facing complex problems. Approaching your work with sensitivity, an open heart, and genuine care for your clients is the key to being both effective and deeply fulfilled in your career. Guest: Professor David Oppenheimer, Clinical Professor of Law at UC Berkeley Law, Faculty Co-Director of the Pro Bono Program, and author of The Diversity Principle: The Story of a Transformative Idea. Where to listen and how to support the showSearch Studying Law Around the World on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. If you found value in this episode, please take a moment to follow or subscribe to the show on your platform of choice. Leaving a rating and review is the best way to support the podcast, helping us continue to grow and bring these invisible rules of the legal profession to more junior lawyers around the world. Selected episodes of Studying Law Around the World are eligible for Continuing Professional Development (CPD) credit with the Law Society of Ontario (LSO) and Continuing Legal Education (CLE/CPD) credit with the Law Society of British Columbia (LSBC). For approved episodes, accreditation details, and participation information, please visit:⁠https://law-learn-link.base44.app/Episodes

    25 min

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A podcast with more than 60 hours of conversations with lawyers, professors, and students from over 20 countries. Each episode shows how people study law, build careers across borders, handle setbacks, and find purpose in their work. You will hear clear advice, practical tips, and global insights from different legal systems and top schools. A useful guide for anyone interested in law school experiences, law career advice, legal industry insights, and the views of legal scholars. Selected episodes accredited by the Law Society of Ontario and the Law Society of British Columbia. ISSN 2819 733X

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