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Yonit Levi of Israel's Channel 12 News and Jonathan Freedland of The Guardian are two of the most prominent journalists in the world today. They are also Jews. Each week, join what MSNBC's Rachel Maddow calls "two great, smart smart smart hosts" as they dissect and debate current events shaping Israel, Jewish life - and the wider world. Their blend of nuanced discussion and sparkling conversation, featuring a dazzling range of guests, is why New Yorker editor David Remnick calls himself a “proud, avid listener," why Ira Glass says he "completely enjoys this show" and why Malcolm Gladwell calls it an "incredibly fun podcast". For a weekly fix of globally informed talk – including nominations for the greatest act of chutzpah and outstanding mensch of the previous seven days – there’s only one destination. Make every Friday morning Unholy.  Contact us via: unholy@unholy-media.com

  1. 1D AGO • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    Bonus episode: The History (and Politics) of Israeli Bomb Shelters

    Visit's Unholy's website to get more content https://unholy-podcast.lovable.app/ Every Israeli knows the drill. The alert, the seconds, the sprint to the shelter — or the paralysed realisation there isn't one nearby. In this bonus episode, Yonit Levi and Jonathan Freedland take a deep dive into something that has quietly shaped Israeli life for decades: the politics, history, and daily reality of safe rooms and bomb shelters. From Saddam's Scuds in 1991 — when Israelis taped plastic sheets over their windows and waited for chemical weapons that never came — to the legal overhaul that made the mamad a fixture of every new apartment, this is the story of how a country built its home front from scratch. And how, 30 years later, a third of Israelis still have nowhere to go when the siren sounds. Chapters: [00:00] Why we made this episode — the listener response that started it all [01:13] 1991: Saddam's Scuds, gas masks, and the moment everything changed [03:58] Scud FM and Israel's decision not to hit back [05:30] The law that changed everything: every new apartment must have a mamad [07:54] A country divided — who has a safe room and who doesn't [09:57] The numbers: 33% of Israelis have no nearby shelter [11:32] The political divide in alert zones — settlements vs. cities [13:30] The 33% living in parking lots and railway stations for 30+ days [14:01] Polling surprise: shelter access predicts support for the war [15:10] Palestinians, Druze, Bedouin — who the sirens don't protect [16:08] Israeli resilience: Pilates, Zoom classes, and weddings underground

    16 min
  2. Talking peace, making war - with Jake Sullivan

    5D AGO

    Talking peace, making war - with Jake Sullivan

    Please note that an (authentic!) alert sound is heard twice throughout the episode. Watch us on Youtube: https://youtu.be/UdhHLAquwgs Follow Unholy and learn more about the pod: https://unholy-podcast.lovable.app/ The fourth week of the war with Iran finds both sides insisting—loudly and contradictorily—that peace talks are either underway or nowhere in sight. In the meantime, Iranian missiles continue to hit civilian neighbourhoods across Israel, while rolling news blurs day into night, tracking both the war itself and the political manoeuvres that show little sign of slowing down. And in London, another antisemitic attack raises uncomfortable questions about double standards when it comes to hatred directed at Israel. This week, Yonit and Jonathan sit down with Jake Sullivan, who puts it bluntly: this war should not have started. Sullivan lays out three reasons why the decision was flawed, argues that Donald Trump’s “appetite grew with the eating” from the 12-day war to the current escalation, and offers an alternative path—a renewed nuclear deal backed by long-term deterrence. He also raises a troubling possibility: could this conflict increase the likelihood of Chinese action against Taiwan?   Plus: a rare look behind the scenes of Israel’s most-watched news broadcast, as Yonit reflects on what it means to sit in the anchor’s chair for hours on end—and the personal toll it takes.   00:00 Day 27 — Cluster bomb near Yonit's house  03:00 Life under sirens: sheltering in Tel Aviv  19:48 The Rubio remark: did Israel drag America into war? 23:28 Yonit on anchoring Israel's news during a war she's living 31:23 Jonathan: global antisemitic attacks since the war began  42:06 Jake Sullivan: deal or escalation? 1:15:16 Chutzpah & Mensch Awards Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    1h 20m
  3. Iran with General David Petraeus, Oscars with Naomi Alderman - plus: can Jewish life thrive under fire?

    MAR 12

    Iran with General David Petraeus, Oscars with Naomi Alderman - plus: can Jewish life thrive under fire?

    Watch us on Youtube: https://youtu.be/vQ0o0F07o2k Subscribe to get bonus episodes, read more about the team, and catch us on every platform we're on! > https://bit.ly/unholy-podcast Naomi Alderman on Substack: look at me. I’m here. I’m the ultimate product of Hitler’s defeat: https://naomialderman.substack.com/p/look-at-me-im-here-im-the-ultimate Day 13 of the war with Iran — and the conflict just got bigger. Overnight, 200 rockets were fired at Israel from Lebanon. Hezbollah, which many believed had been neutered, is back.  This week, Yonit and Jonathan take stock of a war that is growing, not winding down. They're joined by General David Petraeus — former CIA Director, commander of coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, and one of the most clear-eyed voices on American military strategy. Petraeus breaks down what the US and Israel have actually achieved so far: missile launches are down over 90%, air defenses have been dismantled, and over 6,000 targets hit. But the new Khamenei? "We wanted a Delcy Rodriguez," he says. "We got a young Kim Jong-un." And he's blunt about what comes next: Iran's a million men under arms, and nobody has a clean exit. Then: a very different conversation. Jonathan talks to novelist and broadcaster Naomi Alderman about why she thinks Marty Supreme is the most intensely Jewish movie she's ever seen.  Plus: the Mensch and Chutzpah awards return. The Academy of Hebrew Language gets hacked by Iranians. Their response? Perfect. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    1h 36m
  4. War with Iran Day 6: The Gulf Under Fire, Tough Questions for Trump - With Gideon Rachman

    MAR 5

    War with Iran Day 6: The Gulf Under Fire, Tough Questions for Trump - With Gideon Rachman

    Watch us on Youtube: https://youtu.be/zNwIQcrIMDs Recent update episodes: War with Iran day 4 - Living under fire (March 3) Khamenei Is Dead. What Now for Iran? - with Dr. Suzanne Maloney (March 1) US and Israel strike Iran; Khamenei reported dead - with Amos Harel (Feb 28) America and Israel are at war with Iran. non-stop sirens in Tel Aviv, the Gulf states are under fire, and the Trump administration is hit by a barrage of tough questions in Washington. This week, Yonit and Jonathan take stock of a historic and disorienting first week. Gideon Rachman, chief foreign affairs commentator for the Financial Times, joins to assess the war from the outside: Trump shifting justifications for war, Israel's military logic-- and who will fill the regional power vacuum if Iran is weakened. And: Jonathan reports from Sydney, where he visited Bondi Beach and spoke to a Jewish community still shaken by the shooting in December — and Yonit, running on five nights of no sleep, describes what it's actually like to stop your car on the side of a highway when the sirens go off. Also: a wedding in a shelter, four floors underground. 0:00.000 Chapter: US & Israel war against Iran - day 6 22:31.671 Chapter: Shifting Justifications for War 25:22.534 Chapter: Israel's Strategic Calculus 28:27.274 Chapter: Changing Dynamics in American Support 31:12.981Chapter: The Role of Allies in a New World Order 34:19.257 Chapter: Future of Regional Powers in the Middle East 37:16.299 Chapter: The Complexity of Regime Change 40:07.423 Chapter: Responses from Gulf States and the Path Forward 42:47.830 Chapter: Understanding the Iranian Threat 42:56.867 Chapter: Current Events in the Middle East 43:59.964 Chapter: Reflections on the Conversation and Future Outlook     Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    45 min
  5. War with Iran - Day 4 - Living Under Fire

    MAR 3

    War with Iran - Day 4 - Living Under Fire

    Watch us on Youtube: https://youtu.be/hcbffED7ISw Recent update episodes: Khamenei Is Dead. What Now for Iran? - with Dr. Suzanne Maloney (March 1) US and Israel strike Iran; Khamenei reported dead - with Amos Harel (Feb 28)   Day 4 of the Israel–Iran war: What does life look like inside Israel right now? Yonit and Jonathan reconnect for the first time since the beginning of the war with Iran. What does war feel like minute-by-minute? What does it mean when sirens sound every hour and a half — day and night? What happens to a society when workplaces close, schools shut, airports empty, and families move between safe rooms and bomb shelters as routine? Yonit describes the exhausting rhythm of preliminary alerts, the psychological strain of constant disruption, and the quiet resilience of Israeli civilians navigating a conflict that feels both immediate and existential. They discuss: ▶︎ The difference between June’s confrontation and this new phase ▶︎ The strategy behind Iran’s high-frequency missile fire ▶︎ The role of deterrence — and whether this is the beginning of the end for the Iranian regime ▶︎ The balance between exhaustion and resolve inside Israel ▶︎ And ultimately: who decides when this ends?   Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Context of the Conflict 00:43 Living Under Fire: Daily Life in Israel 04:10 The Psychological Impact of Constant Alerts 10:29 Public Sentiment and Resilience Amidst Conflict 15:28 The Role of Leadership and External Influences 22:29 Looking Ahead: The Future of the Conflict Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    24 min
4.7
out of 5
512 Ratings

About

Yonit Levi of Israel's Channel 12 News and Jonathan Freedland of The Guardian are two of the most prominent journalists in the world today. They are also Jews. Each week, join what MSNBC's Rachel Maddow calls "two great, smart smart smart hosts" as they dissect and debate current events shaping Israel, Jewish life - and the wider world. Their blend of nuanced discussion and sparkling conversation, featuring a dazzling range of guests, is why New Yorker editor David Remnick calls himself a “proud, avid listener," why Ira Glass says he "completely enjoys this show" and why Malcolm Gladwell calls it an "incredibly fun podcast". For a weekly fix of globally informed talk – including nominations for the greatest act of chutzpah and outstanding mensch of the previous seven days – there’s only one destination. Make every Friday morning Unholy.  Contact us via: unholy@unholy-media.com

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