The Energy Markets Podcast

Bryan Lee
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Conversations with energy and environmental policy experts exploring the best state and federal policies to effectuate the urgently needed transition to a clean-energy economy at least cost to consumers. Lot's of wonky FERC stuff. State-level utility regulation and politics. Economists. Lawyers. Engineers. Politicians. Government regulators. Advocates. And acronyms. Lots of acronyms. Topical discussions about energy market developments with a focus on regulatory policies that disincentivize the innovation necessary to advance environmental and climate change objectives at least cost to consumers and the economy. Hosted by Bryan Lee, an energy and environmental policy consultant with decades of Washington, D.C.-based experience as a journalist, government official and energy company executive. Lee and invited guests discuss the latest developments at the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and other federal agencies, Capitol Hill, as well as happenings at state-level regulatory commissions and legislatures.

  1. 2h ago

    S5E8: Microgrid Maven Elisa Wood discusses state of play for consumer-empowering electricity options

    Elisa Wood, founder and editor of the newsletter Energy Changemakers, has covered the evolution of consumer-empowering technologies such as microgrids, demand response, rooftop solar and battery storage and vehicle-to-grid for more than a dozen years. There is perhaps no one more qualified to discuss these emerging consumer-empowering electricity options and the forces working against their adoption. In a wide-ranging discussion, Wood notes the headwinds facing these technologies but is overall optimistic about the future. The traditional regulatory framework for monopoly utilities, a vestige of the 19th century, rewards utilities for building big projects that provide shareholders big returns under the rate-regulated model, leaving these corporations with little financial incentive to invest in these smaller-scale technologies. Nevertheless, while there's little near-term prospect of changing the regulatory paradigm, Wood is optimistic that technology will ultimately drive change. "I think that the champion is technology," Wood says. "You have commercial/industrial customers putting in microgrids, even though it's not a real hot year for them. It's going to come back, and you've got virtual power plants, you know, coming to the fore. Community solar coming to the fore. All these things are competing with utilities. So the competition came. I think it just came through new technology, and I think that's only going to grow. Those technologies aren't going away." Another driver is rising electricity costs, which have become an election-year issue.  "I think we're on the verge of something big," she says. "It's a tough time because the Trump administration, you know, has gotten rid of incentives and whatnot and kind of created a lot of tumult for the industry . . . but I feel like the consumer impetus is there and the technology is there waiting for it. So I'm actually pretty bullish right now." Wood sees all of these multiplying technologies "eating away" at the hold giant utilities have on the system, noting increasing consumer interest and municipalities investing in these technologies, which is creating a bottom-up approach to changing the utility system, more so than regulatory reforms.  Regulatory reform is "really hard because (utilities) have the lobbyists," she says. "They have all the money to go in there to the regulatory agencies and influence them. And who can possibly compete with that? Who's out there that can compete with that? There's really no other entity, right? So regulation has to be changed from another direction. And I really believe it's going to be from more the consumer choosing something else and forcing the utility to change, or basically taking away their customer base, you know, so that they have to change. I think it's going to come from that direction." Support the show

  2. Sep 7

    S5E7: John Farrell, director of ILSR's Energy Democracy Initiative, eyes municipal ownership as an answer to monopoly utility abuses

    John Farrell, director of ILSR's Energy Democracy Initiative, sees municipal ownership of utilities as an answer to the abuses consumers suffer at the hands of investor-owned monopoly utility companies. But he also sees competitive markets as enabling the sorts of local self-reliance his organization promotes. "I think the lesson we've seen from the way that we regulate monopoly for-profit utilities is that we need a lot more discipline from competition because our belief that regulation would mimic competition, which is how it's supposed to work, that's the theory behind it, is that it's not working at all," Farrell says. "These companies are making far much greater profit than they would if they were in a competitive market, and they've often used the monopoly power that they have to restrict competitors for entering. So I'm a big believer that competitive markets are an important component of how we solve the energy problems we have today." Support the show

  3. Aug 13

    S5E5: Long-time observer Paul Bledsoe opines on the state of the U.S. and global action on climate disruption

    Despite increasingly catastrophic weather events occurring across the globe, climate change expert Paul Bledsoe is optimistic there is still time to ward off the worst of climate disruption caused by emissions of greenshouse gases, but time is running out. And he sees reducing what he calls "super pollutants," such as methane and HFCs, rather than simply reducing CO2 emissions from fossil fuels, as offering the most efficient appraoch to stemming the worst of the worst when it comes to climate disruption. "If we can just over the next 20 years reduce these super pollutants, begin to reduce CO2, I think we can just stave off the worst," he says. "We can prevent the true catastrophe, but we need to act, and we need to act more urgently." Support the show

  4. Jul 24

    S5E4: Data Center Coalition's Aaron Tinjum discusses the energy and siting challenges the data industry faces in the age of AI

    The data industry is in a land rush to develop new data centers to meet projected demand due to artificial intelligence. Rapidly bringing many new, large data centers online translates into a sharp increase in demand for electricity at a time when consumers and politicians are concerned about rising electricity prices. At the same time, communities and their political representatives are increasingly working to block the siting of data centers in their communities. The industry is attempting to meet "unprecedented demand for the services that are powered by data centers" as the amount of computing time and computer power by users has grown dramatically since the pandemic, says Aaron Tinjum, executive vice president for policy, regulatory, and strategy at the Data Center Coalition. "That's even setting aside any sort of conversation around artificial intelligence, and really a point of emphasis in all of that is that it is homes and it is businesses, it is utilities that are necessitating more data center infrastructure than ever before, and so our members are working to meet that demand." Tinjum sought to push back against the data industry being tarred as a primary cause of increasing electricity prices, noting that there are so many other factors contributing to the recent upsurge in electricity costs, such as generation shortfalls, transmission constraints, and supply chain issues. "Yes, data centers have had an impact on capacity prices, but that can't solely be assigned to data centers when we're talking about things like market design, we're talking about things like price caps, we're talking about accelerated plant retirements, and the interconnection backlogs to connect any new resources that would offset the reduced supply side resources," he says. "This is really infrastructure that our modern economy and daily lives have become dependent upon, and one of the most necessary inputs in meeting that demand is electricity," he notes. "Energy is the single highest operating expenditure for a data center, so they are naturally incentivized to be as efficient as possible in addition to whatever sustainability commitments they may have already in place."  Support the show

  5. Jul 13

    S5E3: Former DOE official William S. Becker discusses the fossil fuel industry 'cartel' that has frustrated climate action

    William S. Becker, the executive director of the Presidential Climate Action Project and a former Department of Energy official, discusses the fossil fuel industry "cartel" that has aligned itself with congressional Republicans and the Trump administration to frustrate concerted policies in response to the threat from climate disruption. "It's a huge industry. It's got a tremendous sunk investment," Becker observes. "It's been around for 200 years. It's fighting to keep access to something on the order of, well, tens of trillions of dollars of fossil fuels that are still underground. Science is saying that about two thirds of them have to stay there in order to keep climate change under some bearable level, at some bearable level. So it began late in 1989, the fossil energy industries and companies formed a coalition to begin resisting climate science and discrediting it, and we've been at this ever since." Support the show

  6. Jul 2

    S5E2: Think climate change is a hoax? Ask the insurance industry

    The Insurance Information Institute's Chief Economist, Michel Leonard, discusses how the insurance industry is contending with increasingly intense and more frequent extreme weather events that are driving up insurance costs for consumers. While there are a number of factors driving cost increases for insurance, such as inflation, there's no doubt that extreme events driven by human-caused climate disruption is a principal factor, Leonard says. Climate is the one of most critical issues affecting the insurance industry, he says. "It's the make or break of our industry." Support the show

  7. Jun 14

    S5E1: The EMP epilogue season – Electricity Restructuring 101

    Energy Markets Podcast host Bryan Lee explains why he has returned to publishing regular episodes of the podcast after a two-year sabbatical. "I feel compelled to return," Lee says, citing "the looming threat of a retreat from electricity regulatory reforms that have provided billions of dollars in benefits to consumers." Lee also draws on his long career in energy and environmental policy to provide the history of competitive reforms over the past 30 years intended to replace monopoly regulation of electricity prices with market-based pricing.  "While the decades-old model for competitive electricity markets needs to be improved, we shouldn't lose sight of the benefits we've derived – billions in consumer savings and a consistently cleaner electric industry," Lee says. "It would be a tragedy if we returned to monopoly regulation rather than take the steps needed to make the markets work better." Support the show

  8. 04/04/2024

    S4E7: R Street Institute economist Michael Giberson speaks to price trends in electricity markets

    In this episode we continue our consideration of what Bill Massey in our first episode this season called "the battle of the statistics" between monopoly and competition advocates. We talk with Michael Giberson, an economist and senior fellow for energy with the R Street Institute, who notes the importance of taking statistics into proper context when attempting to contrast between monopoly utility regulation and competitive markets – particularly the need to account for the impact of inflati...

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Conversations with energy and environmental policy experts exploring the best state and federal policies to effectuate the urgently needed transition to a clean-energy economy at least cost to consumers. Lot's of wonky FERC stuff. State-level utility regulation and politics. Economists. Lawyers. Engineers. Politicians. Government regulators. Advocates. And acronyms. Lots of acronyms. Topical discussions about energy market developments with a focus on regulatory policies that disincentivize the innovation necessary to advance environmental and climate change objectives at least cost to consumers and the economy. Hosted by Bryan Lee, an energy and environmental policy consultant with decades of Washington, D.C.-based experience as a journalist, government official and energy company executive. Lee and invited guests discuss the latest developments at the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and other federal agencies, Capitol Hill, as well as happenings at state-level regulatory commissions and legislatures.

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  • Creator
    Bryan Lee
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    72
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