Outside The Boards™

Daniel O'Leary

The OTB™ Podcast is your passport to the captivating world of polo, where we aim to redefine preconceived notions and deliver an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at this remarkable sport. Our mission is to introduce you to the fascinating individuals, remarkable locales, and captivating stories that comprise the heart of polo, while shattering common stereotypes along the way.Tackling pressing issues currently shaping the sport, we foster constructive dialogue and exchange of ideas, insights, solutions, and exemplary case studies. Our ultimate aim? To propel polo to new heights on the global stage.Join us for candid conversations with polo's industry luminaries, dedicated enthusiasts, and the extraordinary individuals who infuse this sport with their passion and energy, making it an absolute joy to be a part of. The OTB™ Podcast: Your portal to a polo experience like no other.

  1. Tito Gaudenzi: Redefining Polo Events Worldwide

    OCT 17

    Tito Gaudenzi: Redefining Polo Events Worldwide

    Send us a text The world of polo extends far beyond traditional grass fields, and Tito Gaudenzi stands at the forefront of this evolution. Born into polo royalty as the son of Reto Gaudenzi (the inventor of snow polo), Tito has carved his own path as both a professional player and a visionary event producer who's reimagining where and how polo can thrive. Our conversation takes us from the frozen lake of St. Moritz to the beaches of Miami as Tito reveals the extraordinary logistics behind creating polo events in these unconventional settings. You'll discover why his beach polo events don't actually use beach sand (they truck in specialized jumper track footing), how horses navigate on just nine inches of frozen lake ice, and the meticulous planning required to transform public spaces into world-class polo venues. What makes Tito's perspective particularly valuable is his dual identity as both player and producer. He approaches the sport with a refreshing philosophy: "We bring polo to the people, which in the long run brings more people to polo." This approach has allowed him to create events that attract not just traditional polo enthusiasts but celebrities, global brands, and curious first-timers—all while maintaining the sport's inherent elegance and excitement. The commercial side of polo features prominently in our discussion, with Tito sharing insights on how he's secured unprecedented sponsorship longevity (including a 25-year title sponsor deal) and developed a multi-tier approach that balances luxury experiences with accessibility. He describes polo as a "mass niche market sport" with enormous untapped potential, comparing its current state to soccer in America before its commercial explosion. Whether you're a polo aficionado or simply curious about the intersection of sport, business, and entertainment, Tito's story offers valuable lessons in innovation, quality, and the delicate balance of tradition and progress. Join us for this fascinating conversation with one of polo's most forward-thinking voices. Ready to see polo in a whole new light? Subscribe now and follow Tito's journey as he continues to expand the boundaries of this ancient sport. Support the show About Hive₂O Hard Honey™ Hive₂O Hard Honey is a pioneering beverage company that brings the rich, balanced taste of honey to the forefront of the industry. With a focus on innovation, quality, and community, Hive₂O offers a range of hard honey and alcohol-free beverages designed to surprise and delight with every sip. As a thank you for tuning into this episode of Outside The Boards Podcast, Hive₂O is offering listeners an exclusive online discount and free shipping on all four packs. Use code OTBPOLO24 in all caps at checkout. Visit hardhoney.com to explore products. About Lineup Polo Lineup Polo was built to revolutionize how polo is managed and experienced. With a mission to support the polo community and expand the sport’s reach, the platform digitizes processes and centralizes communication. Lineup Polo is committed to the game's future. Available as a free app and web portal, Lineup Polo allows clubs to manage tournaments, automate leagues, payments, and memberships, building a new digital ecosystem for polo. About Outside The Boards™ Founded after witnessing their first polo match in 2012, Outside The Boards™ seeks to share the sport’s beauty, intensity, and lifestyle while addressing industry fragmentation. Through best practices, insights, trends, and consulting, OTB™ helps stakeholders and brands unlock polo’s marketing potential and navigate the sport with clarity...

    1h 6m
  2. Benoit Perrier: Leading the Chantilly Polo Legacy

    OCT 10

    Benoit Perrier: Leading the Chantilly Polo Legacy

    Send us a text Where heritage meets innovation, Chantilly Polo Club stands as Europe's premier polo destination just minutes from Paris. Managing Director Benoit Perrier takes us behind the scenes of this remarkable venue, revealing how a visionary approach has transformed a 30-year-old club into an international powerhouse. With nine immaculate fields, 400 permanent stables, and the capacity to host over 1,400 horses during peak events, Chantilly's scale is impressive. But what truly sets this club apart is its philosophy – making polo accessible while maintaining its prestige. "It's a park open to everyone who loves horses," explains Perrier, highlighting their free-access policy for spectators that removes barriers between the sport and potential fans. The conversation unveils Chantilly's innovative approaches to player development, from their pioneering "paddock polo" format (played three-on-three with arena balls) to their comprehensive pony polo program that introduces children as young as six to the sport. This structured pathway creates a sustainable pipeline of talent while addressing one of polo's greatest challenges – bringing new players into the fold. Perhaps most fascinating is Chantilly's strategic location within a historic equestrian ecosystem. Situated just five kilometers from one of France's premier horse racing facilities, the club benefits from generations of horse expertise and over 300 kilometers of training tracks in the surrounding forest. This proximity allows Chantilly to repurpose retired racehorses for polo, giving these magnificent animals second careers. The episode also explores Chantilly's impressive event portfolio, including their flagship French Open tournament that attracts top international talent, and their recent Paris Games Polo Challenge that celebrated polo's Olympic heritage during the 2024 Paris Games. Looking ahead, Perrier shares exciting plans for Europe's largest arena polo facility and the upcoming 30th anniversary celebrations. For players, clubs, and polo enthusiasts alike, this conversation offers valuable insights into sustainable growth, effective marketing strategies, and community engagement that can elevate the sport globally. Whether you're fascinated by p Support the show About Hive₂O Hard Honey™ Hive₂O Hard Honey is a pioneering beverage company that brings the rich, balanced taste of honey to the forefront of the industry. With a focus on innovation, quality, and community, Hive₂O offers a range of hard honey and alcohol-free beverages designed to surprise and delight with every sip. As a thank you for tuning into this episode of Outside The Boards Podcast, Hive₂O is offering listeners an exclusive online discount and free shipping on all four packs. Use code OTBPOLO24 in all caps at checkout. Visit hardhoney.com to explore products. About Lineup Polo Lineup Polo was built to revolutionize how polo is managed and experienced. With a mission to support the polo community and expand the sport’s reach, the platform digitizes processes and centralizes communication. Lineup Polo is committed to the game's future. Available as a free app and web portal, Lineup Polo allows clubs to manage tournaments, automate leagues, payments, and memberships, building a new digital ecosystem for polo. About Outside The Boards™ Founded after witnessing their first polo match in 2012, Outside The Boards™ seeks to share the sport’s beauty, intensity, and lifestyle while addressing industry fragmentation. Through best practices, insights, trends, and consulting, OTB™ helps stakeholders and brands unlock polo’s marketing potential and navigate the sport with clarity...

    1h 27m
  3. Elizabeth Welborn: Heritage, Style & Sustainability

    OCT 3

    Elizabeth Welborn: Heritage, Style & Sustainability

    Send us a text Support the show About Hive₂O Hard Honey™ Hive₂O Hard Honey is a pioneering beverage company that brings the rich, balanced taste of honey to the forefront of the industry. With a focus on innovation, quality, and community, Hive₂O offers a range of hard honey and alcohol-free beverages designed to surprise and delight with every sip. As a thank you for tuning into this episode of Outside The Boards Podcast, Hive₂O is offering listeners an exclusive online discount and free shipping on all four packs. Use code OTBPOLO24 in all caps at checkout. Visit hardhoney.com to explore products. About Lineup Polo Lineup Polo was built to revolutionize how polo is managed and experienced. With a mission to support the polo community and expand the sport’s reach, the platform digitizes processes and centralizes communication. Lineup Polo is committed to the game's future. Available as a free app and web portal, Lineup Polo allows clubs to manage tournaments, automate leagues, payments, and memberships, building a new digital ecosystem for polo. About Outside The Boards™ Founded after witnessing their first polo match in 2012, Outside The Boards™ seeks to share the sport’s beauty, intensity, and lifestyle while addressing industry fragmentation. Through best practices, insights, trends, and consulting, OTB™ helps stakeholders and brands unlock polo’s marketing potential and navigate the sport with clarity...

    1h 11m
  4. Javier Herrera: Connecting Polo's Global Community

    SEP 26

    Javier Herrera: Connecting Polo's Global Community

    Send us a text When Javier Herrera broke his knee playing rugby in Argentina, his doctor gave him two recovery options: ride a bike or ride a horse. That fateful choice led him to discover polo and eventually create PoloLine – transforming how the sport is covered, consumed, and connected across the globe. In this candid conversation, Javier reveals how he launched polo's first digital media platform during the late 1990s dot-com boom, when he identified a critical gap: polo enthusiasts worldwide had no way to follow tournaments or players without waiting months for magazine coverage. Starting with nothing but determination, he and his business partner Sebastian Amaya began photographing matches in Palm Beach, selling VHS tapes of Argentine tournaments, and gradually building what would become polo's most trusted global news source. The journey wasn't easy. Javier recounts sleeping at polo clubs in exchange for coverage, scanning physical photographs before digital cameras were affordable, and convincing skeptical players and patrons of the internet's value when most still received tournament draws by fax. What makes his story remarkable is how PoloLine evolved alongside technology – from basic match reports to comprehensive video content, eventually pioneering polo livestreaming years before it became standard practice. Beyond building a media platform, Javier created the World Polo Tour ranking system that helped standardize tournament importance globally, giving structure to an international sport that previously lacked cohesion. Today, as a consultant for Global Polo TV, he's focused on bringing polo to mainstream audiences through partnerships with ESPN and other networks while maintaining the authenticity that attracted him to the sport. Whether you're fascinated by entrepreneurship, sports media, or polo's unique culture across Argentina, the US, and Europe, Javier's perspective offers invaluable insights into how passion, vision, and persistence can transform an entire sporting landscape. His story isn't just about polo – it's about seeing opportunity where others don't and building bridges that connect communities across continents. Support the show About Hive₂O Hard Honey™ Hive₂O Hard Honey is a pioneering beverage company that brings the rich, balanced taste of honey to the forefront of the industry. With a focus on innovation, quality, and community, Hive₂O offers a range of hard honey and alcohol-free beverages designed to surprise and delight with every sip. As a thank you for tuning into this episode of Outside The Boards Podcast, Hive₂O is offering listeners an exclusive online discount and free shipping on all four packs. Use code OTBPOLO24 in all caps at checkout. Visit hardhoney.com to explore products. About Lineup Polo Lineup Polo was built to revolutionize how polo is managed and experienced. With a mission to support the polo community and expand the sport’s reach, the platform digitizes processes and centralizes communication. Lineup Polo is committed to the game's future. Available as a free app and web portal, Lineup Polo allows clubs to manage tournaments, automate leagues, payments, and memberships, building a new digital ecosystem for polo. About Outside The Boards™ Founded after witnessing their first polo match in 2012, Outside The Boards™ seeks to share the sport’s beauty, intensity, and lifestyle while addressing industry fragmentation. Through best practices, insights, trends, and consulting, OTB™ helps stakeholders and brands unlock polo’s marketing potential and navigate the sport with clarity...

    1h 15m
  5. Tim Dutta Sr. & Timmy Dutta Jr.: Shaking Up Polo with LineUp

    SEP 19

    Tim Dutta Sr. & Timmy Dutta Jr.: Shaking Up Polo with LineUp

    Send us a text Tim and Timmy Duda embody a refreshingly unconventional polo story that defies the sport's traditional narratives. Where most elite players inherit polo legacies, the Dudas created theirs from scratch – beginning with Tim Sr.'s journey from India to America and the founding of a global equine transport empire that now moves 6,000 horses annually across 16 countries. Their conversation reveals the fascinating intersection of business acumen and sporting passion. Tim Sr. shares how identifying a gap in specialized horse shipping led to Duda Corporation handling Olympic Games and world championships, while Timmy recounts his transition from show jumping to polo after a life-changing stick-and-ball session with the legendary Gracida family. By 16, Timmy was competing alongside 10-goal titans; today at 23, he holds a 6-goal handicap in Argentina where he claimed four major championships in a single dream season. What truly distinguishes their approach is their horsemanship philosophy. "They're our family, not sports equipment," Tim emphasizes about their horses, many of whom enjoy retirement on their property after years of competition. Timmy adds depth to this sentiment, describing the magical partnership between player and horse: "When they start trusting you, they allow you to guide them. At the same time, you're trusting them to help you." Their father-son dynamic brings both tension and strength to their polo pursuits. Tim serves as both "biggest cheerleader and biggest critic," while they navigate the delicate balance of professional partnership and family bonds. Together, they're focused on ambitious goals – winning the US Open, competing in the Argentine Open, and continuing to build both sporting and business legacies. Want to witness this unique polo journey firsthand? Visit Flying D Farms in Wellington during the season and follow the Duda team's quest through the prestigious Gauntlet of Polo tournaments. Their story proves that in polo, passion and perseverance can create extraordinary new pathways to success. Support the show About Hive₂O Hard Honey™ Hive₂O Hard Honey is a pioneering beverage company that brings the rich, balanced taste of honey to the forefront of the industry. With a focus on innovation, quality, and community, Hive₂O offers a range of hard honey and alcohol-free beverages designed to surprise and delight with every sip. As a thank you for tuning into this episode of Outside The Boards Podcast, Hive₂O is offering listeners an exclusive online discount and free shipping on all four packs. Use code OTBPOLO24 in all caps at checkout. Visit hardhoney.com to explore products. About Lineup Polo Lineup Polo was built to revolutionize how polo is managed and experienced. With a mission to support the polo community and expand the sport’s reach, the platform digitizes processes and centralizes communication. Lineup Polo is committed to the game's future. Available as a free app and web portal, Lineup Polo allows clubs to manage tournaments, automate leagues, payments, and memberships, building a new digital ecosystem for polo. About Outside The Boards™ Founded after witnessing their first polo match in 2012, Outside The Boards™ seeks to share the sport’s beauty, intensity, and lifestyle while addressing industry fragmentation. Through best practices, insights, trends, and consulting, OTB™ helps stakeholders and brands unlock polo’s marketing potential and navigate the sport with clarity...

    1h 16m
  6. Alice Walsh & Rosanna Turk: Shaking Up Polo with LineUp

    SEP 12

    Alice Walsh & Rosanna Turk: Shaking Up Polo with LineUp

    Send us a text Ever wondered what happens when cutting-edge technology meets the tradition-steeped world of polo? This episode delivers the answer through an exhilarating conversation with Alice Walsh and Rosanna Turk, the dynamic duo behind Line Up Polo. These two childhood rivals-turned-business partners share their remarkable journey from competing against each other in pony club tournaments to collaborating on a digital platform that's revolutionizing how polo is organized, played, and experienced. What began as Alice's computer science project has evolved into a comprehensive solution addressing the sport's desperate need for modernization. The brilliance of Line Up Polo lies in its dual-sided approach. For club managers drowning in administrative chaos (described hilariously as "herding cats"), their platform streamlines tournament organization, team management, and fixture scheduling. Meanwhile, players and fans gain unprecedented access to live scoring, statistics, and match details through an intuitive app that makes polo more accessible than ever. Most fascinating is how their data collection is challenging polo's status quo. In a sport where professional opportunities have traditionally depended on who you know, Line Up's performance analytics provide patrons with objective criteria for team selection. As Rosanna puts it, "Data doesn't have bias," potentially democratizing access to playing opportunities based on demonstrable skill rather than connections. The conversation dives deep into the adrenaline-fueled nature of polo, with both founders confessing their love for the sport's unique combination of speed, skill, and bravery. Alice's self-described "ADHD brain" found its perfect match in polo's all-consuming intensity – perhaps explaining why so many executives and entrepreneurs are drawn to the game as their ultimate stress release. Ready to experience polo's digital revolution? Download the Line Up Polo app to follow tournaments worldwide, or contact them through their website to explore how their premium analytics could transform your team's performance. The future of polo is here – and it's brilliantly data-driven. Support the show About Hive₂O Hard Honey™ Hive₂O Hard Honey is a pioneering beverage company that brings the rich, balanced taste of honey to the forefront of the industry. With a focus on innovation, quality, and community, Hive₂O offers a range of hard honey and alcohol-free beverages designed to surprise and delight with every sip. As a thank you for tuning into this episode of Outside The Boards Podcast, Hive₂O is offering listeners an exclusive online discount and free shipping on all four packs. Use code OTBPOLO24 in all caps at checkout. Visit hardhoney.com to explore products. About Lineup Polo Lineup Polo was built to revolutionize how polo is managed and experienced. With a mission to support the polo community and expand the sport’s reach, the platform digitizes processes and centralizes communication. Lineup Polo is committed to the game's future. Available as a free app and web portal, Lineup Polo allows clubs to manage tournaments, automate leagues, payments, and memberships, building a new digital ecosystem for polo. About Outside The Boards™ Founded after witnessing their first polo match in 2012, Outside The Boards™ seeks to share the sport’s beauty, intensity, and lifestyle while addressing industry fragmentation. Through best practices, insights, trends, and consulting, OTB™ helps stakeholders and brands unlock polo’s marketing potential and navigate the sport with clarity...

    1h 2m
  7. Cindy Halle: Championing the Next Generation of Polo

    SEP 5

    Cindy Halle: Championing the Next Generation of Polo

    Send us a text Step into the hidden world of collegiate and high school polo with trailblazer Cindy Hale, whose four-decade journey from college player to pioneering coach and official offers a fascinating glimpse into one of polo's most impactful yet least understood sectors. What began as a chance encounter with polo ponies in Southern California led Cindy to UC Davis, where she helped capture four National Women's Intercollegiate Championship titles during the earliest days of women's participation in the sport. Her path eventually brought her to Maryland, where she transformed the Garrison Forest School polo program and mentored countless young players who went on to collegiate success. The conversation illuminates the unique format of Interscholastic and Intercollegiate (II) polo, played exclusively in arenas with a revolutionary "split string" system where horses play for both competing teams. This levels the playing field and teaches players crucial adaptability skills that translate far beyond polo. With 15 men's teams, 24 women's teams, and dozens of high school programs now competing nationally, the II system has become a vital pipeline developing not just players but future leaders in the sport. Perhaps most compelling is how II polo democratizes access to a historically exclusive sport. Students manage entire equine operations - feeding horses, maintaining facilities, fundraising, and organizing competitions - while developing deep bonds with teammates they may play alongside for years. The teamwork, responsibility, and horsemanship skills learned through these programs shape character and create lifelong polo advocates. As Cindy reflects on her memorable moments both playing and coaching, she reveals why II polo matters: it's not just about creating professional players but teaching life lessons through sport and preserving the special bond between horse and rider that makes polo extraordinary. Whether you're a polo enthusiast or simply curious about how collegiate sports build character, this episode offers rich insights into a unique athletic experience that transforms students into leaders. Support the show About Hive₂O Hard Honey™ Hive₂O Hard Honey is a pioneering beverage company that brings the rich, balanced taste of honey to the forefront of the industry. With a focus on innovation, quality, and community, Hive₂O offers a range of hard honey and alcohol-free beverages designed to surprise and delight with every sip. As a thank you for tuning into this episode of Outside The Boards Podcast, Hive₂O is offering listeners an exclusive online discount and free shipping on all four packs. Use code OTBPOLO24 in all caps at checkout. Visit hardhoney.com to explore products. About Lineup Polo Lineup Polo was built to revolutionize how polo is managed and experienced. With a mission to support the polo community and expand the sport’s reach, the platform digitizes processes and centralizes communication. Lineup Polo is committed to the game's future. Available as a free app and web portal, Lineup Polo allows clubs to manage tournaments, automate leagues, payments, and memberships, building a new digital ecosystem for polo. About Outside The Boards™ Founded after witnessing their first polo match in 2012, Outside The Boards™ seeks to share the sport’s beauty, intensity, and lifestyle while addressing industry fragmentation. Through best practices, insights, trends, and consulting, OTB™ helps stakeholders and brands unlock polo’s marketing potential and navigate the sport with clarity...

    1h 21m
  8. Luis Escobar: Legacy in the Saddle

    AUG 29

    Luis Escobar: Legacy in the Saddle

    Send us a text Luis Escobar, the heart behind Santa Clara Polo Club and a towering figure in American polo, takes us on a fascinating journey from his childhood in Costa Rica to building a lasting legacy in Wellington, Florida. Growing up with a father who embraced polo in his thirties, Luis discovered his life's passion at just seven years old, declaring with absolute certainty by age eight that professional polo would be his future. What makes Luis's story remarkable is how he bridges generations in a sport that truly allows for family legacies to flourish. Now watching his sons Nico and Lucas rise through the ranks to 5 and 6-goal handicaps respectively, he finds his greatest joy in seeing them develop. "I can continue playing through the eyes of my kids," he shares, highlighting polo's unique ability to keep families connected through shared passion. The conversation delves deep into the art of horsemanship, a skill Luis believes is becoming increasingly rare even at the highest levels. While many professionals simply discard horses that underperform, Luis has built his career on understanding each mount and maximizing their potential. This philosophy has taken him across the globe, proving Churchill's famous quote that "your polo handicap is your passport to the world." Beyond technique and travel, Luis offers a refreshing perspective on polo's accessibility. Forget the stereotypes of champagne and fancy attire, real polo is about "beer and barbecue," a welcoming community where anyone can pull up with a cooler to enjoy the action. As Santa Clara Polo Club brings fall tournaments back to Wellington, Luis remains committed to growing the sport while addressing the challenges of developing more American talent in a landscape dominated by Argentine players. Listen now to discover how this remarkable sport breaks boundaries, builds families, and creates lifelong bonds between humans and horses. Whether you're a polo en Lineup PoloPremier digital platform for polo in managing tournaments, memberships, payments & live scoring!Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show About Hive₂O Hard Honey™ Hive₂O Hard Honey is a pioneering beverage company that brings the rich, balanced taste of honey to the forefront of the industry. With a focus on innovation, quality, and community, Hive₂O offers a range of hard honey and alcohol-free beverages designed to surprise and delight with every sip. As a thank you for tuning into this episode of Outside The Boards Podcast, Hive₂O is offering listeners an exclusive online discount and free shipping on all four packs. Use code OTBPOLO24 in all caps at checkout. Visit hardhoney.com to explore products. About Lineup Polo Lineup Polo was built to revolutionize how polo is managed and experienced. With a mission to support the polo community and expand the sport’s reach, the platform digitizes processes and centralizes communication. Lineup Polo is committed to the game's future. Available as a free app and web portal, Lineup Polo allows clubs to manage tournaments, automate leagues, payments, and memberships, building a new digital ecosystem for polo. About Outside The Boards™ Founded after witnessing their first polo match in 2012, Outside The Boards™ seeks to share the sport’s beauty, intensity, and lifestyle while addressing industry fragmentation. Through best practices, insights, trends, and consulting, OTB™ helps stakeholders and brands unlock polo’s marketing potential and navigate the sport with clarity...

    1h 11m

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The OTB™ Podcast is your passport to the captivating world of polo, where we aim to redefine preconceived notions and deliver an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at this remarkable sport. Our mission is to introduce you to the fascinating individuals, remarkable locales, and captivating stories that comprise the heart of polo, while shattering common stereotypes along the way.Tackling pressing issues currently shaping the sport, we foster constructive dialogue and exchange of ideas, insights, solutions, and exemplary case studies. Our ultimate aim? To propel polo to new heights on the global stage.Join us for candid conversations with polo's industry luminaries, dedicated enthusiasts, and the extraordinary individuals who infuse this sport with their passion and energy, making it an absolute joy to be a part of. The OTB™ Podcast: Your portal to a polo experience like no other.