REEF Roundup: 🪸Coral Reefs🐠 and šŸ™Marine Conservation🦈

Graham Patterson and Tamara Silverstone

Join us and meet some of the many amazing people who are doing exciting work to save the ocean for future generations, with a focus on restoration, ecology, and the environment. A production of REEF Scuba - reef-scuba.org.

  1. Linzi Hawkin of Protect Blue: Designing a Regenerative Ocean Culture | S4E5

    JAN 20

    Linzi Hawkin of Protect Blue: Designing a Regenerative Ocean Culture | S4E5

    In this episode of REEF Roundup, we sit down with Linzi Hawkin, co-founder of Protect Blue, and explore the special combination of thoughtful strategy and human joy that is essential to being impactful in your efforts to care for the ocean. Linzi shares her journey from running surf schools in Jersey to designing impact strategies for global NGOs. We dive deep into the dangers of "shiny" storytelling, the importance of nervous system regulation for ocean advocates, and why "water breaks" should be the first thing you seek out at the next ocean conference you attend. Key Takeaways Strategy & Stoke: Why ocean conservation needs both measurable impact data and the joy of connecting with the ocean to be sustainable. Beating Burnout: Practical advice on managing overwork and climate anxiety, including "sit spots" and setting boundaries (like Linzi’s "No-Call Fridays"). Impact VS Storytelling: Why we need funding and support for "scrappier," more authentic projects that support and celebrate those in the trenches doing the work. The "Robin Hood" Model: How Protect Blue takes high-level agency tools and makes them accessible to grassroots frontline communities. Featured Quotes "If you don't have time to meditate for five minutes, you need to meditate for five hours." — Linzi Hawkin "We're almost creating this really false narrative... like we're all just swimming with manta rays every day... I want to champion and celebrate some of that behind the scenes work." — Linzi Hawkin "Do not burn yourselves out. Be as I am - a reluctant enthusiast... a part-time crusader... Save the other half of yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure." — Edward Abbey (read by Linzi) Mentioned in this Episode Damon Gameau (Filmmaker, 2040): @damongameau SeaTrees (Ocean regeneration project): @sea.trees

    45 min
  2. Virgil Zetterlind of Protected Seas: Mapping Ocean Protections and Closing the Enforcement Gap | S4E4

    12/09/2025

    Virgil Zetterlind of Protected Seas: Mapping Ocean Protections and Closing the Enforcement Gap | S4E4

    In this episode, we sit down with Virgil Zetterlind, Director of Protected Seas, to discuss the critical difference between declaring a Marine Protected Area (MPA) and it actually leading to the intended positive outcomes we hope to achieve. It's a more complex topic than we often cover, but incredibly important. So grab a cup of coffee, perhaps a notepad, and a comfortable seat before you dive in. While global targets like 30x30 and the High Seas Treaty dominate the headlines, the reality on the ocean is that much of it is often a Wild West of overlapping regulations and limited visibility. Virgil walks us through how Protected Seas is solving this knowlege and data gap by mapping the global regulatory landscape with their Navigator tool and deploying autonomous radar systems (M2) to monitor compliance in real-time. In this episode, you’ll hear about: Visualizing the Invisible – How the Navigator tool standardizes complex, layered legal texts into a "Level of Fishing Protection" score, allowing users to see exactly what activities are allowed in any patch of ocean. Closing the Enforcement Gap – The transition from "paper parks", areas that are protected by law, but not in reality, to protected waters using M2 (Marine Monitor), a non-cooperative radar technology that tracks near-shore vessel movement without relying on AIS signals. The Economics of Protection – Data from Mexico and beyond proving that scuba divers are willing to pay a premium to visit fully protected areas, making a clear economic case for strict no-take zones. Data Over Intuition – A case study from California where radar data disproved the assumption that poaching happens at night, revealing that most illegal fishing occurred in broad daylight which shifted enforcement strategies. High Seas & 30x30 – The logistical challenges of implementing the new High Seas Treaty and the difficulty of tracking "Other Effective Conservation Measures" (OECMs) without standardized metrics. Protected SeasProtected Seas is a team of data scientists, mariners, and conservationists dedicated to bridging the gap between ocean policy and reality. Their open-access tools, including the Navigator map and M2 radar systems, empower governments, NGOs, and ocean users to understand regulations and improve compliance. Website: https://protectedseas.net Navigator Map: https://map.navigatemap.org M2 Marine Monitor: https://m2marinemonitor.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/protected-seas Mentioned Organizations & Tools Mapping & Navigation Apps Savvy Navvy (Boating App)Website: https://www.savvy-navvy.com Deckee (Boating Safety App)Website: https://deckee.com Google EarthWebsite: https://earth.google.com Google MapsWebsite: https://maps.google.com Conservation Technology & Enforcement Global Fishing WatchWebsite: https://globalfishingwatch.org Skylight (Maritime Intelligence)Website: https://www.skylight.global EarthRanger (Protected Area Management - Note: Referred to as "Earth Rangers" in transcript)Website: https://www.earthranger.com Conserve.ioWebsite: https://conserve.io Whale AlertWebsite: https://www.whalealert.org Furuno (Marine Radar Hardware)Website: https://www.furuno.com Conservation NGOs & Government WildAidWebsite: https://wildaid.orgInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildaid Global ConservationWebsite: https://globalconservation.orgInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/globalconservation NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)Website: https://www.noaa.govInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/noaa Dave Wiley (Research Coordinator, Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary)Profile: https://stellwagen.noaa.gov/science/dave-wiley.html REEF Roundup & REEF Scuba REEF Roundup – Marine conservation podcast (this show)Website: https://www.reefroundup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/reefroundup REEF Scuba – Nonprofit behind REEF RoundupWebsite: https://www.reefscuba.org

    47 min
  3. TrƩ Packard of PangeaSeed: Using Art to Make Marine Conservation Visible | S4E3

    11/19/2025

    TrƩ Packard of PangeaSeed: Using Art to Make Marine Conservation Visible | S4E3

    In this episode, we sit down with TrĆ© Packard, founder and Executive Director of PangeaSeed Foundation, to explore how public art can turn abstract ocean science into something people can see, feel, and act on. From shark fin markets in Asia to large-scale mural festivals and fine art print releases, TrĆ© walks through how PangeaSeed built a global model that funds conservation work, supports artists, and brings the ocean into city streets. In this episode, you’ll hear about: Art as a gateway to empathy – why emotional connection is as important as scientific literacy for driving change, especially for people who will never put on a mask or scuba tank. The origin of Sea Walls – how the uncovering of the largest shark finning operation in the world and a mural in a Sri Lanka sparked the idea of using large-scale public art as a democratic, free platform for ocean stories. Printed Oceans and the ā€œbusiness of conservationā€ – how limited-edition fine art prints create a circular economy that funds programs, supports artists, and brings conservation narratives into homes, schools, and workplaces. Cross-sector collaborations – examples of working with dive agencies, city governments, brands, and international institutions to align communications, funding, and science around local ocean threats. Longevity and resilience in ocean advocacy – lessons from 15+ years in the field, including burnout, hope, and how to keep going when the problems are heavy and long-term. PangeaSeed Foundation is a nonprofit working at the intersection of art, science, and education to advance ocean conservation. Through programs like Sea Walls: Artists for Oceans, Printed Oceans, and their Impact and Commissioned Programs, PangeaSeed connects scientists and communities with a global network of artists to turn complex marine issues into accessible visual stories. Their work addresses priority ocean challenges such as overfishing, plastic pollution, and climate impacts worldwide. PangeaSeed Foundation Website: https://www.pangeaseed.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pangeaseed Sea Walls: Artists for Oceans (PangeaSeed public art program) Website: https://www.seawalls.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seawalls Printed Oceans (fine art print program) Program page: https://pangeaseed.org/printed-oceans/ TrĆ© Packard – Photography Portfolio Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abovebelowphoto/ Other Mentioned Organizations Protect Blue Protect Blue Website: https://protect.blue Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/protect.blue Application / program pages Undercurrent (program page with application): https://protect.blue/undercurrent Blue Campus (community & program hub): https://protect.blue/campus PADI (Professional Association of Diving Instructors) Website: https://www.padi.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paditv United Nations & UN Ocean Conference UN Ocean Conference (information page): https://www.un.org/en/conferences/ocean2025 United Nations – main organization Website: https://www.un.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unitednations Influencer Database IUCN – International Union for Conservation of Nature Website: https://www.iucn.org Instagram (IUCN Congress): https://www.instagram.com/iucn_congress REEF Roundup & REEF Scuba REEF Roundup – Marine conservation podcast (this show) Website: ⁠https://reef-roundup.com⁠ ⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/reefroundup⁠ REEF Scuba – Nonprofit behind REEF Roundup Website: ⁠https://www.reef-scuba.org⁠ ⁠

    44 min
  4. Dr. Jamie Craggs: Scientific Breakthroughs in Coral Spawning to Supercharge Reef Restoration | S4E2

    11/06/2025

    Dr. Jamie Craggs: Scientific Breakthroughs in Coral Spawning to Supercharge Reef Restoration | S4E2

    In this episode of REEF Roundup we sit down with world renowned Dr. Jamie Craggs to learn about the fascinating topic of coral reproduction and how controlled coral spawning is increasingly becoming a go-to restoration tool. Jamie walks through the progression from his groundbreaking work at the Horniman Museum & Gardens — Project Coral to wider collaborations with Coral Spawning International, SECORE International, Tropical Marine Centre (BioCSL), and his work as Senior Marine Science Officer at MARS Sustainable Solutions — Building Coral. We also discuss a field project documented with Canon and Nature Seychelles, connecting science and public storytelling. Explore & follow the organizations mentioned: Horniman Museum & Gardens — Project Coral — Website: https://www.horniman.ac.uk/project/project-coral/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hornimanmuseumgardens/ Coral Spawning International — Website: https://www.coralspawninginternational.com/ SECORE International — Website: https://www.secore.org • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secore.international/ Tropical Marine Centre (BioCSL) — Website: https://tropicalmarinecentre.com • BioCSL: https://tropicalmarinecentre.com/uk/sector-bio-csl-coral-spawning-labs • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tropicalmarinecentre/ MARS Sustainable Solutions — Building Coral — Website: https://www.buildingcoral.com Canon (World Unseen: Coral Matchmaking) — Feature: https://www.canon-europe.com/view/world-unseen-coral-matchmaking-episode-1/ Nature Seychelles — Website: https://natureseychelles.org • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/naturesey/ Learn more about the show and follow us at REEF Roundup — https://reef-roundup.com • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reefroundup/

    46 min
  5. Meet David and Brett Kettle: Pioneers of Underwater Survey Technology and Founders of Flying Fish Technologies

    06/25/2024

    Meet David and Brett Kettle: Pioneers of Underwater Survey Technology and Founders of Flying Fish Technologies

    On this episode of REEF Roundup, we are thrilled to host David and Brett Kettle, the innovative minds behind Flying Fish Technologies. With a combined legacy of over five decades in marine conservation, the Kettles are revolutionizing how we analyse, understand and protect coral reefs. Brett Kettle has been a formidable force in coral reef protection for several decades. His career highlights include spearheading the largest reef remediation project on the Great Barrier Reef and providing expert testimony in landmark environmental cases. Driven by the need to address Crown of Thorns Starfish outbreaks, Brett envisioned a tool that could document vast stretches of reef with unprecedented speed and accuracy. This vision materialized into the Vertigo3 glider, a high-speed underwater survey device capable of capturing over 50,000 high-resolution images per hour, each enriched with geospatial and environmental data. David Kettle brings a wealth of experience in business analysis, project management, and technological innovation. As CEO of Flying Fish Technologies, David has been instrumental in developing AI-driven tools that analyze biodiversity in real-time, enabling the creation of photorealistic, geospatially accurate digital twins of reef ecosystems. His leadership has ensured that Flying Fish Technologies remains at the forefront of marine survey technology, making their gliders accessible for global deployment and adaptable to various environmental conditions. Together, Brett and David Kettle are not just advancing marine science; they are making it possible to monitor and preserve our underwater worlds more effectively and on a scale that was never possible before. Tune in to hear about their journey, the technology they’ve developed, and their vision for the future of coral reef conservation. Make sure to check out Flying Fishs' videos - they are incredible! https://vimeo.com/showcase/10597521 You can find Brett Kettle here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettkettle You can also find David Kettle here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kettledavid Follow us @ REEF Roundup Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Marine Conservation Podcast (@reefroundup)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ REEF Roundup Website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(reef-roundup.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ REEF Scuba Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (reef-scuba.org)

    37 min
5
out of 5
12 Ratings

About

Join us and meet some of the many amazing people who are doing exciting work to save the ocean for future generations, with a focus on restoration, ecology, and the environment. A production of REEF Scuba - reef-scuba.org.