Pristine Ocean Podcast

Peter Hall

The Pristine Ocean Podcast shares real stories about people fighting marine plastic pollution. Listen in for new insights how we are all connected in the task of keeping the oceans pristine.

  1. 39. A Paris for Plastics? with Christina Dixon from the Environmental Investigation Agency

    06/30/2022

    39. A Paris for Plastics? with Christina Dixon from the Environmental Investigation Agency

    Environmental Investigation Agency United Nations Treaty to End Plastic Pollution Get in contact peter.hall@pristineocean.global You are probably aware of some of the challenges in finding a solution to the plastic crisis the world is facing.  3 challenges in no particular order come to mind: Challenge 1: Data. You’ve probably heard the phrase, “If you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it” which certainly applies to  plastic waste management. But we can’t measure it because we don’t have the data about how much plastic is being produced, how much waste is exported, how much imported and after that it becomes a guessing game about how much actually lands in the ocean.  Challenge 2: Laws. Packaging companies need a level playing field so that if they improve the environmental friendliness of their products, that this does not put them at a commercial disadvantage.  Challenge 3: Finance. Waste management infrastructure will have to be expanded in the countries that can least afford it. All these challenges would be complicated enough for one country. But to be effective, all countries need to be aboard. These challenges have to be addressed globally. Did you know, that the United Nations is working on a treaty to solve these issues? In March 2022, the UN Member States endorsed the UN Environment Programme 5 which is a resolution to End Plastic Pollution with the intention to have a full resolution in 2024. Today we are talking to someone who is deeply involved in the negotiations to formulate that resolution. She is Christina Dixon from the Environmental Investigation Agency or EIA. She is fighting for the planet. We talked about the urgency of the treaty and the similarities to efforts to manage the climate crisis and whether the treaty can be thought of a type of Paris for Plastics. Full Interview

    26 min
  2. 33. The Beach Collective with Rob from $Beach

    11/27/2021

    33. The Beach Collective with Rob from $Beach

    Beach Token The relationship between the economy and the environment is not an easy one.  Most modern economies are based around the profit principle.  But this doesn't work well for environmental projects. You can put a price on environmental degradation.  But without the intensive international deal-making and haggling over environmental pricing, it is difficult to place a dollar value on a clean beach or an intact coral reef.    What is the value of a kilo of rubbish removed from a beach compared to a kilo removed from the river that empties near that beach?    What is the value of that kilo of waste plastic that put in a land fill compared to the kilo burnt in a cement kiln?   What is the difference whether that kilo is in India or is in Africa?   These values are difficult to agree on just for a particular location. And they can be completely different from one location to the next.   Maybe the problem is not the economic value but the currency itself.     Maybe we need a currency more suited to the demands of environmental projects which are typically international and highly local.   Sounds like a crypto-currency right?   This week we're talking to Rob from the crypto token Beach which is designed to fill the needs of groups of people such as digital nomads moving through different locations exchanging services. These services may be delivered over the internet or locally.    Currently the organization behind the Beach token has funding available for ocean preservation projects and I applaud that. Script of conversation with Rob Cobbold.

    18 min

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The Pristine Ocean Podcast shares real stories about people fighting marine plastic pollution. Listen in for new insights how we are all connected in the task of keeping the oceans pristine.