Two young killers in the life insurance industry, Cole Jackson and Jonathan Shinn, join us to break down what they’re doing right now to produce at a high level and build an agency in Nashville. They’re only 20 and 23, but they’re already putting up eye-opening production months and growing teams fast. The best part is they don’t hide the messy side: chargebacks, cancellations, discipline problems, and why most new agents quit before they get enough reps to actually learn the game. We get very specific on sales process and lead generation. They walk through selling final expense and working veteran leads, including what OTP verified leads are, how lead quality changes pickup rate, and why a simple roadmap beats a complicated script. If you sell over the phone, pay attention to the details they share on pacing, tonality, slowing down on options, and using a clean close that doesn’t rely on guilt or pressure. Their core message is blunt: if you think the leads suck, track your dials and tighten your process before you blame the marketplace. Then we zoom out into agency building, culture, and long-term ownership. We talk standards, recruiting people for the right reasons, reinvesting cash flow, planning for advanced commissions and chargebacks, and staying healthy while you chase big goals. We also hit investing, AI, and why technology is opening doors for normal people to build real businesses faster than ever. If you get value from this, subscribe, share it with a friend who sells, and leave a review so more agents can find the show. *****DISCLAIMER****** Results mentioned in this content are not typical and are not a guarantee of future performance. Individual results will vary based on a number of factors, including but not limited to experience, market conditions, product availability, and individual effort. Any examples, case studies, testimonials, or income figures shown are for illustrative purposes only and may not be representative of the experience of other individuals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Insurance and annuity product guarantees are subject to the claims-paying ability and financial strength of the issuing company. FFL USA does not provide tax, legal, or accounting advice. Consult your own tax, legal, and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction.