I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Giles Sibbald

The music podcast that does music differently. I'm Giles Sibbald and I'm talking to extraordinary musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in their lives to amplify their own creativity, use their instinct, pursue new challenges, take risks, overcome fears and bounce back from mistakes.  Audio on all major podcast platforms.  Video on YouTube.

  1. S17 E9: David Roush

    FEB 27

    S17 E9: David Roush

    When I was a kid in the 80’s, I used to listen to a local radio show called On The Wire, presented by Steve Barker. Steve and John Peel were single handedly responsible for me finding bands and artists like African Headcharge, Sonic Youth, Tackhead, Test Dept, Cabaret Voltaire, Mark Stewart and The Mafia, Keith Le Blanc, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry and so many others. It was so, so thrilling to discover these new artists.  And the show is still going, Steve is still going (albeit on Mixcloud because the BBC unceremoniously turfed him off the radio in favour of some shit pretentious show that’ll have the listeners running for the hills. Anyway, he tags his shows with the magnificent term of “Undefinable” which makes me just love him even more because I loathe the whole way that genres are used to stereotype and pigeonhole. And this is where – in a long winded way -  my guest, David Roush and his wonderful band Ecce Shnak fit in. Undefinable. Going back to the release of Letter to German Vasquez Rubio around 13/14 years ago to their latest single Katy’s Wart from their LP Joke Oso. They are a fascinating kaleidoscope of creative fertility and imagination which I think is one of the most important characteristics to have in the world today and I’m really excited to talk to David about his mindset and how this has helped to shape who he is today. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - cover art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

    1h 6m
  2. S17 E8: Morenike

    FEB 20

    S17 E8: Morenike

    I’ve really not talked about this too much, but when I first moved to London at the end of 2008, I felt a massive liberation from the anonymity that the city gave me. I hardly knew anybody – and there’s a separate conversation to be had about how people perceive our identity and how that can confine us - but even when I got to know people and scenes, the city made it easy to disappear when I wanted to. For me, an introvert at heart, this gave me freedom to allow my true identity that was lurking somewhere beneath the surface to come out. And here we are! I mention all of this as my guest today, Morenike, has also explored some of these themes in her debut single Nobody Knows My Name , a most beautiful song that refuses to be constrained by that most horrible word – genre – by fusing many different influences to show what is possible when we allow our mind to be free from constraints imposed by either society or an industry.  She has also just released her second single called Mysterious and Wild, which again shows just how inspiring music is when there’s some element of experimentation and how it’s really one language with common roots waiting to be explored. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - cover art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

    1 hr
  3. S17 E6: Dani Larkin

    JAN 23

    S17 E6: Dani Larkin

    I thought long and hard about what I wanted to say in the introduction today. I’ve felt quite rattled with some of what’s been in the news, especially these last few weeks, let alone years, and it’s kind of taken over my brain. But, I recalled a few words from Joe Strummer many years ago saying "People are out there doing bad things to each other. It's because they're being dehumanised. It's time to take humanity back into the centre of the ring and follow that for a time."    Music has always been there for me. It’s always been my friend and I’m pretty sure it always will be. It’s the one constant and I think as humans we need some constants in our lives when we live in what feels like endless uncertainty and volatility. I often wonder what role music has to play today and I think this is one of them, whether you are a musician, creator, listener, whatever. That ability to connect and be relatable.    I’m delighted to have Dani Larkin with me today, a songwriter who embodies that humanity, that connection and blends the old school with the new school in songwriting and arrangement that are as individualistic as they are beautiful.  https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - cover art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

    53 min
  4. S17 E5: Massimo Pupillo

    JAN 12

    S17 E5: Massimo Pupillo

    In the last few 6 or 7 years – and bear with me here - I’ve become much more interested in the nature of the relationship between humans and other species, forces or whatever – animals, birds, trees, plants, the elements… nature, I guess. I think the genesis was when I listened to a conversation with the novelist Richard Powers and he was talking about his book The Overstory and how we should think of ourselves as being part of life itself, not think of living in terms of “our life” – a subtle distinction – but his conclusion was that it would help us all live more harmoniously. But the human obsession with domination, together with our selfishness I guess - and we’re going back centuries here – has led us down a very different path where anything non-human is deemed as being there to serve us. That doesn’t make any sense to me, it just feels destructive. It also made me think of our relationship with our senses – hearing, seeing, smell, taste and touch and, as hearing is the first sense that we experience in the womb, about how we listen to music – is it about pleasurable listening or is there more? Should we be going back further into times past to re-evaluate our relationship with sound?  When I think of Guido of Arezzo, the monk who first started creating “music” by plotting notes on a page, was that when music first became objectified as a score on a piece of paper, almost imprisoned on the page? Should music really be more about a creative act of improvisation where it shapeshifts and changes each time you perform it? Is that how it keeps its energy? How do we listen with more intention? I’m getting to the point, you’ll be glad to know! OK, well, Massimo Pupillo has just unleashed an absolute beast of a record with his band Zu. It’s called Ferrum Sidereum (cosmic iron – yes, it sounds better in Latin) and it’s one of the most phenomenal pieces of music that I’ve heard in a long time. One hour 20 minutes of incredible energy that bridges that gap between its creators, the vitality and energy of the natural world and me the listener. I once read music described as “our umbilical cord to mother nature”. This record feels like that.  https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - cover art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

    1h 4m
  5. S17 E4: Mélanie Pain

    JAN 5

    S17 E4: Mélanie Pain

    One thing I’m aware of in myself and others is a shortening attention span and fierce competition for our attention with the sheer amount of information we have to process. If ever there was “it was never like this in the good old days” moment, here you are. As an aside, I actually heard that screenwriters are being told by production companies, distributors or whatever that they need to write scripts that assume the viewer will also be scrolling on their phone whilst watching their show.  And like most things in the world today, it feels like an overwhelming problem to solve – and I think it is a problem – but we can all do our bit to try and reign in the relentless assault on our behaviours and art definitely helps. I even try to do it with the way I write my zine – deliberately scruffy and distressed so readers can’t just have a cursory flick through it. I mean it’s more layered than that, but you get my point.   So…..here’s the link – as tenuous as ever! - to my guest, Mélanie Pain, whom you’ll of course know through her incredible work with Nouvelle Vague and her equally brilliant solo work.  Mélanie has just released her 4th solo album called How and Why and the final single that she released prior to the album launch is called Dreamloop and the song in its own right is truly beautiful, hypnotic and very unhurried. When you listen to the song with the video, you are transported into a world where the ordinary is anything but ordinary and it acquires implications through the camera loops and repeated scenes.    It demands you take your time and immerse yourself in what feels like a William Eggleston pastiche through a saturated looking glass. Sit back and let your attention span heal. The whole album is wonderful – enigmatic, sometimes optimistic, sometimes forlorn and always giving space for reflection. Look no further than Colours in the Dark – it is just sublime. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - cover art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

    59 min
  6. S17 E3: Halina Rice

    12/29/2025

    S17 E3: Halina Rice

    The genesis of this podcast was a thesis that I did about 8 years ago around the sort of skills and attributes that we will need for the future. I used a horrible term – human capital - to describe the value that these things give us because that was the terminology that was understood in the academic circles that I was submitting to. I now see it as quite a derogatory term, but the premis still stands – that our self, our own talent is our most important resource that we need to protect, nurture and adapt.  It’s all part of a massive shift in how we live our lives – from a linear 3 stage life to a multi-stage life One of the big mega trends influencing these shifts continues to be technology – particularly the transition from the 4th Industrial Revolution of high automation into the 5th Industrial Revolution where the relationship between technology and humans takes on much greater importance. I’m saying all of this because my guest today, Halina Rice, is wholly immersed in using sound and visual technology for her live and recorded experiences where music, art, humans and technology  intersect. Her latest album, Unreality, and the accompanying visuals, is groundbreaking stuff. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - cover art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

    51 min
  7. S17 E2: Jesse Hartman

    12/19/2025

    S17 E2: Jesse Hartman

    New York has always been – bold statement coming up – my favourite music city. No question that it’s connected to my life changing discovery of the Ramones way back when. I still can’t walk past the Guild Hall in my hometown of Preston without a couple of nostalgic tears forming for when I first saw them play there  – I tried my best not to wash off the water that Joey threw over me when things were getting a little hot.  But getting back on track… all those New York musicians over the years – infinitely different stylistically, but almost always identifiable as a New York “sound”. I don’t know what it is – and hindsight’s a glorious thing to have – but could the Ramones, Blondie, Public Enemy, Roxanne Shante, Lou Reed, Talking Heads, Swans, Sonic Youth, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Nas, have existed anywhere else and created their own distinctive sound yet is still a New York sound?  Jesse Hartman's, Laptop, goes back to the late 90’s – such a divisive decade. I really feel Laptop were ahead of their time and this is perhaps part of what makes New York New York – that ability to be ahead of the pack so often . They had the cinematic monologues, the rebellion, the self deprecation, the love, the heartbreak, the nostalgia and an ability to cross generations. I say that because I’m 20-odd years older and their second coming is here and I’m still hooked. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - cover art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

    1h 6m

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The music podcast that does music differently. I'm Giles Sibbald and I'm talking to extraordinary musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in their lives to amplify their own creativity, use their instinct, pursue new challenges, take risks, overcome fears and bounce back from mistakes.  Audio on all major podcast platforms.  Video on YouTube.