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Lauren Spigelmyer & Jessica Doering

To help people who help people, the organization needs to be healthy and have practices in place that consider the trauma of those they serve. Lauren Spigelmyer and Jessica Doering have helped thousands of people who help people all over the world. Each week they'll explore tools, insights, and stories to help you lead and live with more clarity, calm, and connection. If you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.

  1. 1D AGO

    Designing Rhythms that Regulate

    Lauren explores how rhythm regulates both the nervous system and organizations, showing how predictable routines create safety, clarity, and capacity, while chaos increases stress and burnout. She shares practical examples of daily, weekly, monthly, and quarterly rhythms leaders can use to replace urgency with coherence, and invites listeners to try one regulating rhythm and notice how it shifts energy and pace over time. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: When Culture DysregulatesGrowth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemMeetings that Calm, Not DrainThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    21 min
  2. DEC 16

    When Culture Dysregulates

    Lauren explores how organizational culture acts as a nervous system and the signs that show when it’s stuck in survival mode. She explains how unclear communication, chronic urgency, and dysregulated leadership quietly shape how teams feel, function, and perform.  She also shares simple ways leaders can restore regulation through tone, emotional repair, and small moments of co-regulation that rebuild trust and create a calmer, more sustainable workplace. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Growth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemMeetings that Calm, Not DrainThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    22 min
  3. DEC 9

    Growth & Feedback Without Fear

    In this episode, Lauren explores how leaders can promote growth and give feedback without triggering fear or threat responses. She explains why traditional evaluation systems dysregulate staff and why regulation, clarity and collaborative feedback matter for culture and performance.  She shares strategies like predictable check ins, strengths first framing, and micro goals to make feedback supportive instead of punitive. Learn how to build systems that create clarity, trust, and empowered growth.  Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Onboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemMeetings that Calm, Not DrainThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    34 min
  4. DEC 2

    Onboarding as Co-Regulation

    In this episode, Lauren explores onboarding as a nervous-system experience rather than paperwork. She shows how predictability, belonging, clarity, and emotional tone shape a new hire’s first 30 to 90 days and influence whether they feel safe, confident, and connected. She also offers regulating structures like clear roadmaps, warm welcomes, buddy systems, and communication norms to help organizations create a more grounded onboarding experience. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Policy as a Nervous SystemMeetings that Calm, Not DrainThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageUnderstanding Burnout & Turnover in Trauma Impacted OrganizationsThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    26 min
  5. NOV 25

    Policy as a Nervous System

    Lauren shares how policies and procedures act like an organization’s neural pathways, shaping safety, trust, and overall regulation. Punitive or confusing policies create anxiety, while clear and compassionate ones build stability and support. She explains the difference between stress-driven and safety-driven policies and offers simple steps to make them more regulating. Lauren encourages listeners to reflect on their own policies and take one small step toward a safer, more supportive workplace. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Meetings that Calm, Not DrainThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationStage 1: Relieve — Stabilizing in Survival ModeWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageUnderstanding Burnout & Turnover in Trauma Impacted OrganizationsThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    17 min
  6. NOV 18

    Meetings That Calm, Not Drain

    Meetings set the tone for an organization. Lauren explains how structure, pacing, tone, and clarity can calm the nervous system and keep teams grounded instead of drained. She also shares simple practices like ritualized starts, sensory grounding, one word check ins, and clear closures to help meetings become stable, productive spaces that support a healthier culture. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: The Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationStage 1: Relieve — Stabilizing in Survival ModeWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageUnderstanding Burnout & Turnover in Trauma Impacted OrganizationsThe Five Ives Hot Seat: Honest Answers for Hard QuestionsThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    23 min
  7. NOV 11

    The Regulated Organization: What It Means to Be a Regulated Organization

    Lauren launches The Regulated Organization series, exploring how stress and regulation affect entire workplaces, not just individuals. She explains how an organization’s “nervous system” shapes culture, communication, and trust, and how the Five Ives framework helps bring balance and sustainability to teams.  Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Retain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationStage 1: Relieve — Stabilizing in Survival ModeWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageUnderstanding Burnout & Turnover in Trauma Impacted OrganizationsThe Five Ives Hot Seat: Honest Answers for Hard QuestionsThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheNo Off Switch: Why Regulation Belongs in All Your RolesHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    30 min
  8. NOV 4

    Retain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and Capacity

    In this episode, Lauren explores how organizations can move beyond burnout to build lasting staff retention through the Three M’s: Moments, Memories, and Meaning. She explains that small daily interactions, shared experiences, and a sense of purpose create connection, stability, and momentum. True retention, she says, isn’t just about keeping people; it’s about helping them thrive.  Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Resources Inside Out 2 Movie Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Reinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationStage 1: Relieve — Stabilizing in Survival ModeWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageUnderstanding Burnout & Turnover in Trauma Impacted OrganizationsThe Five Ives Hot Seat: Honest Answers for Hard QuestionsThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheNo Off Switch: Why Regulation Belongs in All Your RolesHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    36 min
4.7
out of 5
10 Ratings

About

To help people who help people, the organization needs to be healthy and have practices in place that consider the trauma of those they serve. Lauren Spigelmyer and Jessica Doering have helped thousands of people who help people all over the world. Each week they'll explore tools, insights, and stories to help you lead and live with more clarity, calm, and connection. If you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.