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Nigel Fellowes-Freeman
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Hosted by Kanopi’s Founder and CEO Nigel Fellowes-Freeman, 'Building Tomorrow's Insurer' slices through the complex insurtech landscape. Simple, clear, and forward-thinking – this podcast is your guide to understanding how technology is rewriting the rules of insurance. Each episode brings together industry leaders, innovators, and disruptors for in-depth conversations on how emerging technologies are reshaping the landscape of insurance. Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kanopicover/ Follow our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7bBpTJEoJ-oaVm5xaMCigg

  1. MAR 4

    Ep. 45 | Building Tomorrow's Insurer | Cyber Resilience Decoded: What Boards Get Wrong About Insurance & Risk

    When a single virus can wipe out computers worldwide in 24 hours, who picks up the pieces? Meena Wahi, Australia's first cyber insurance broker and founder of Cyber & Data Risk Managers, reveals how the cyber insurance landscape has evolved since 2013—and where it's headed next. From the CrowdStrike outage that shocked boards worldwide to the fragmented nature of supply chain risk, Meena breaks down why cyber resilience isn't just a buzzword and how specialist insurers are winning the market share battle. She shares eye-opening insights from ASX 200 boardrooms, explains why Australian regulators might be too "benign," and predicts the convergence of cybersecurity and insurance. Whether you're a startup founder wondering if cyber insurance is worth it or a director trying to understand your organization's risk exposure, this conversation demystifies one of the fastest-evolving sectors in insurance. Host Nigel Fellowes-Freaman asks the questions everyone wants answered but few dare to ask. Timestamps • 00:00 - Introduction to cyber insurance and today's guest • 02:15 - Meena's background: MBA at Monash, consulting at Pricewaterhouse • 03:15 - The origin story: Researching privacy legislation and discovering cyber insurance • 04:05 - Getting invited to New York, meeting with AIG and Chubb • 04:35 - Becoming Australia's first cyber insurance broker in 2013 • 05:30 - Evolution of the cyber insurance market over the past decade • 06:20 - London market perspective: CFC's leadership and market share battles • 07:45 - How cyber wording has evolved globally and locally • 08:50 - The role of specialist MGAs: Emergence, CFC, Coalition • 09:20 - Why only specialists will survive in cyber insurance • 10:30 - The aggregated risk problem: 1,000 claims in one day scenario • 11:45 - 2017 statistic: 4 billion data breaches and $500M in claims • 12:30 - Key changes in cyber policy coverage and trends • 13:45 - Supply chain risk has increased dramatically • 14:30 - The fragmented nature of internet risk and liability ownership • 16:05 - IT supply chain partners and contingent business interruption coverage • 17:20 - CPS 230/234 impact on technology vendors and value chains • 18:45 - How prudential standards are driving demand for cyber insurance • 19:45 - Why Australian regulators are 'benign and friendly' compared to the US • 21:10 - Will increased regulatory oversight aid or hinder innovation? • 22:15 - The board perspective: Generational gaps and skill matrix • 23:15 - Key insights from ASX 200 AGMs and boardroom conversations • 24:20 - The information flow problem: Board oversight vs operational reality • 25:40 - What is cyber resilience? Breaking down the buzzword • 27:00 - Cyber resilience as risk acceptance and resourcefulness • 28:30 - Recovery timeframes: Hours vs months • 29:10 - The CrowdStrike outage: What it revealed • 29:45 - Outage vs cyber incident: Why definitions matter for coverage • 30:45 - Are we prepared for the next global cyber incident? • 31:30 - Educating startups and SMEs about cyber insurance • 32:40 - The implementation challenge: Cybersecurity maturity levels • 33:20 - Difference between education and training • 34:00 - Affordability challenges for small businesses • 34:45 - The underinsurance problem: $250K extensions on PI policies • 35:30 - Future trends: Convergence of cybersecurity and insurance • 36:10 - Warranty insurance from cybersecurity providers • 36:45 - The need for better collaboration and feedback mechanisms • 37:30 - Customization of cyber insurance policies • 38:15 - Fun question: Unconventional insurance ideas • 39:00 - The concept of subscription cyber insurance with bank accounts • 39:50 - Final thoughts and wrap-up

    40 min

  2. FEB 9

    Ep. 44 | Building Tomorrow's Insurer | The 27-Hour Coding Sprint: How Agentic AI is Transforming Insurance Operations with Alex Taylor (QBE)

    Are you still trying to figure out if agentic AI is hype or reality? Alex Taylor, Global Head of Emerging Technology at QBE Ventures, cuts through the noise in this no-nonsense conversation about what's actually working in insurance AI - and what's failing spectacularly. Discover why agentic AI isn't just "fancy RPA," how insurers are running shadow mode tests to prove AI can outperform human underwriters, and why the real barrier isn't technology, it's data strategy. Alex shares jaw-dropping examples from software development (27-hour autonomous coding sprints!) and explains how insurers are moving from chatbot failures to genuine operational transformation. Key insights: the difference between vibe coding and provable AI, why observability matters more than accuracy, Microsoft-Allstate's governance playbook, and the one thing every insurance CIO must do in the next 30 days. If you're responsible for AI strategy, digital transformation, or innovation in insurance, this episode delivers the practical framework you've been missing. No vendor pitches. Just real talk about implementation, regulation, partnerships, and what separates AI winners from the FOMO-driven crowd. Timestamps 0:00 - Introduction - Alex Taylor & QBE Ventures 1:30 - The shift from 'what's possible' to 'what works' in insurance AI 2:15 - Why insurers underinvested in technology (and why it made sense) 3:45 - The real problems insurers are trying to solve with emerging tech 5:00 - Internal pressures: cost, complexity, and competitive speed 6:20 - Customer expectations and the value proposition (spoiler: they don't care about AI) 7:30 - What actually changed in the last 12-18 months 8:30 - Agentic AI explained: beyond classical generative AI 9:45 - The critical difference between agentic AI and RPA 11:20 - The operating system experiment: 27 hours of autonomous coding 13:00 - Inversion of control: humans as engineering managers 14:30 - Build vs buy vs partner: how the calculation has changed 16:15 - What the ideal tech stack looks like: people, process, tech, governance 17:45 - The regulatory complexity and governance requirements 18:30 - Snorkel's AI leaderboards and model certification 19:45 - Case study: What didn't work (the chatbot mistake 99% made) 21:30 - What actually works: agents as employees, not buttons 22:15 - Metrics that matter: measuring AI against human baselines 23:30 - Shadow mode testing: running parallel systems for 12 months 25:00 - Partnership models: how CVCs accelerate experimentation 26:30 - QBE's Lighthouse Program: 3-week proof of value 27:45 - Cutting through the hype: what's real vs. overstated 28:45 - The one thing to do in the next 30 days: know where your data is 30:00 - Closing thoughts and where to follow Alex's content

    46 min

  3. 12/22/2025

    Ep. 43 | Building Tomorrow's Insurer | Trust, Data & Distribution: How Insurers Win in an AI-Driven Market with Emma Fawcett, Compare Club

    As insurers look ahead to 2026, one question looms large: how do you stay trusted, relevant, and competitive in a world shaped by platforms, AI, and rising customer expectations? In this standout end-of-year episode of Building Tomorrow’s Insurer, Kanopi Founder & CEO Nigel Fellowes-Freeman is joined by Emma Fawcett, CEO of Compare Club - Australia’s largest independent comparison platform. Emma brings a rare perspective shaped by leadership roles at MYOB, News Corp, and now the centre of insurance distribution. Together, they explore what insurers can learn from platforms that sit closest to customer decision-making. This conversation dives into: Why value matters more than price in modern insurance How comparison platforms are reshaping trust, advice, and distribution The role of data and AI in delivering personalisation without crossing the “creepy” line Where insurers are missing opportunities across claims, complaints, and lifecycle moments How partnerships, ecosystems, and comparators can fuel smarter product design What agentic AI really means for insurers, and where human expertise still matters most If you’re thinking about customer experience, platform partnerships, AI adoption, or the future of insurance distribution, this is a must-listen conversation to close out the year.

    40 min

  4. 11/17/2025

    Ep 42 | Building Tomorrow's Insurer | Rethinking Friction: Payments Lessons for Insurers with Monoova

    Payments might be the least glamorous part of insurance — but they’re one of the most powerful levers for customer experience, efficiency, and competitive advantage. In this episode of Building Tomorrow’s Insurer, Nigel Fellowes-Freeman sits down with Ed Wiley (Head of Growth, Monoova) and David Greene (Chief Commercial Officer, Monoova) to unpack one of the most overlooked transformation opportunities in insurance: how money actually moves. Monoova’s team has spent decades reshaping payment infrastructure across industries. Today, they break down what insurers need to know — and what they can learn from more advanced sectors like e-commerce, utilities, and cross-border payments. In this episode: Why insurance payments are “stuck in the ’90s” How real-time payments (NPP & PayTo) unlock instant customer delight The hidden cost of direct debit — and why BECS deprecation makes change unavoidable What e-commerce can teach insurers about conversion and checkout journeys Automating reconciliation: the 5% problem that drives 95% of customer complaints How partners can help insurers modernise without multi-year transformation The future of payments: ubiquity, automation, and AI-enabled money movement Whether you’re an insurer, an underwriter, or an insurtech founder — this episode gives you a clear view of where payments are heading, and why the next five years will redefine how premiums and claims flow.

    50 min

  5. 10/23/2025

    Ep 41 | Building Tomorrow’s Insurer | Reinventing Finance: Walter de Oude on Building Singlife and the Future of Chocolate Finance

    What happens when you build one of Asia’s most successful digital insurers—then decide to start over? In this episode of Building Tomorrow’s Insurer, Walter de Oude, Founder and CEO of Chocolate Finance (and previously Founder of Singlife), joins Kanopi CEO Nigel Fellowes-Freeman for an honest conversation about risk, reinvention, and the blurry lines between banking, insurance, and asset management. Walter shares his journey from actuary to founder, including: The hard-won lessons of launching Singapore Life from scratch Why branding and customer trust can be a company’s strongest assets How he’s now building Chocolate Finance, a capital-light model for smarter, happier money What the future of financial ecosystems might look like as banks, insurers, and asset managers converge This one’s for anyone fascinated by where finance goes next—and what it takes to build something truly new.

    45 min

  6. 10/16/2025

    Ep. 40 | Building Tomorrow’s Insurer | Scaling with Purpose: Katie Stranaghan on Growth, Culture, and Tech at High Street

    How do you grow a business fast—without losing what made it special? In this episode of Building Tomorrow’s Insurer, host and Kanopi CEO Nigel Fellowes-Freeman sits down with Katie Stranaghan, Head of Financial Lines at High Street Underwriting Agency, to explore how High Street scaled from a small family business to one of Australia’s leading underwriting agencies while keeping people and culture at the core. Katie shares her journey from joining High Street straight out of school to helping shape its next chapter of growth, technology, and leadership. Tune in as she discusses: Building technology that enhances—not replaces—human connection Maintaining authenticity during rapid expansion How culture drives customer experience The next evolution of underwriting and broker partnerships For anyone scaling a business or leading through change, this episode is packed with lessons on staying grounded while moving fast.

    33 min

  7. 09/29/2025

    Ep 39 | Building Tomorrow’s Insurer | Rethinking Distribution and the Future of Underwriting Agencies with Marc Crossman

    Underwriting agencies are evolving fast — balancing growth, culture, and technology while staying relevant to brokers and customers. In this episode of Building Tomorrow’s Insurer, host and Kanopi CEO Nigel Fellowes-Freeman sits down with Marc Crossman, Executive GM of Distribution and Strategy at UAA Group, to unpack what it takes to lead transformation in today’s market. Tune in as Marc shares: Why distribution strategy is shifting from visibility to value How UAA is embedding tech and culture to drive transformation Lessons from leading teams across Australia and Singapore The future role of underwriting agencies in insurance For leaders navigating change and growth in underwriting, this episode is a must-listen.

    41 min

  8. 09/17/2025

    Ep 38 | Building Tomorrow’s Insurer | Regulation, Risk and the Future of Insurance with Kezia David

    How do insurers balance innovation with an ever-tightening web of regulation? In this episode, host Nigel Fellowes-Freeman sits down with award-winning litigator and regulatory specialist Kezia David to unpack the forces reshaping insurance in Australia and beyond. Kezia shares: Why ASIC’s crackdown is changing every stage of the policy lifecycle The biggest blind spots insurers still face—and how to address them How innovation and compliance can (and must) work together What startups need to know to avoid regulatory pitfalls Why proactive, customer-first approaches to Nat Cat events matter more than ever A sharp, timely conversation for anyone navigating the next wave of accountability and customer expectation in insurance.

    46 min
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Hosted by Kanopi’s Founder and CEO Nigel Fellowes-Freeman, 'Building Tomorrow's Insurer' slices through the complex insurtech landscape. Simple, clear, and forward-thinking – this podcast is your guide to understanding how technology is rewriting the rules of insurance. Each episode brings together industry leaders, innovators, and disruptors for in-depth conversations on how emerging technologies are reshaping the landscape of insurance. Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kanopicover/ Follow our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7bBpTJEoJ-oaVm5xaMCigg

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  • Creator
    Nigel Fellowes-Freeman
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    76
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Nigel Fellowes-Freeman
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    Building Tomorrow's Insurer