13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

Ana Szabo, Nick Adams, Amy Nichols and Lacey Gee

13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast is a deep dive into everything Taylor Swift, her extensive discography, and all of her accomplishments. She is literally The Man of the music industry, after all. Join Nick Adams, Ana Szabo, Amy Nichols and Lacey Gee every Tuesday as they break down a Taylor Swift song (TV only, of course, depending on which era we are currently in... What Era are we even in anyway?) and answer questions such as... Who was the inspiration behind that song? What connection ties this song to previous ones? Which bridge is our favorite to cross? How many Easter eggs have we yet to uncover? What does Taylor Swift put on her charcuterie boards? What does she smell like? And most importantly, what every Swiftie really wants to know…. What’s next?! But like a good Mastermind taught us, always be on the lookout! Be sure to subscribe to 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast so you’ll be the first to know anytime we drop an emergency SwifTea episode. We can be a bit chaotic when the SwifTea is piping hot. Follow the show on Instagram & TikTok @the13podcast and on X @the13TSpodcast CONTACT THE PODCAST! Email – the13podcast@gmail.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast FOLLOW US! Ana - https://www.instagram.com/anaszabo13 Lacey – https://www.instagram.com/laceygee13 Amy – https://www.instagram.com/amysnichols Nick – https://www.instagram.com/nickadamsonair This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own.

  1. 17H AGO

    Track 2 Rankings

    Swifties know that track 2 on a Taylor Swift album is never random. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Lacey, Ana, and Amy take on the impossible challenge of ranking every Track 2 from Taylor Swift’s discography. From early fan-favorite “Picture to Burn” to iconic bopz like “Blank Space,” “Cruel Summer,” and “Cardigan,” the lineup is stacked with some of Taylor’s most unforgettable songs. The conversation quickly turns a little judgemental as the hosts debate lyricism, nostalgia, Eras Tour moments, storytelling, and production while trying to decide which track deserves the top spot. Along the way, the 13 Podcast dives into: • Why Track 2 placements are intentional in Taylor’s albums• The surprising connections between songs like “Red” and “Maroon”• How The Eras Tour changed the way fans experience songs like Cruel Summer and champagne problems• Which songs spark the most Swiftie nostalgia from Taylor’s early eras  With songs from every era — Debut, Fearless, Speak Now, Red, 1989, Reputation, Lover, folklore, evermore, Midnights, The Tortured Poets Department, and The Life of a Showgirl — the hosts attempt to settle one of the biggest Swiftie debates. Listen in and tell us: Which Taylor Swift Track 2 would YOU rank #1?  Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive  Lobster Lounge: station.page/13  Contact the Podcast  Voicemail: (689) 214-1313  Email:  the13podcast@gmail.com  Instagram: @the13podcast  TikTok: @the13podcast  Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast  YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast  Follow the Hosts  Ana – @anaszabo13  Lacey – @laceygee13  Amy – @amysnichols  Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    41 min
  2. MAR 3

    Elizabeth Taylor

    In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we break down “Elizabeth Taylor” from The Life of a Showgirl and uncover the real Hollywood legend who inspired it. Who was Elizabeth Taylor — and why does Taylor Swift see herself in her story? We explore Elizabeth Taylor’s rise as the infamous star of classic Hollywood, her record-breaking negotiation skills, how she fought back against studio control.. You can already see the similarities to Taylor Swift’s life!  We dive into her infamous love story with Richard Burton — the passion, the divorces, the remarriage, and the love letters so intense they still feel cinematic decades later. What does it mean when Taylor sings, “If your letters ever said goodbye”? The real-life context will wreck you. We also unpack: The significance of Portofino and the Plaza Athénée The legacy of White Diamonds and the symbolism behind “forever” Elizabeth’s violet eyes and other interpretations of “I’d cry my eyes violet” The parallels between tabloid scrutiny in 1960s Hollywood and modern pop superstardom Why Taylor Swift called Elizabeth Taylor her ultimate icon on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon At its core, this episode asks a bigger question: What does it cost to be a woman at the top of your industry? Elizabeth Taylor lived it first. Taylor Swift is living it now. This is a deep dive into fame, romance, resilience, diamonds, scandal, reinvention — and what it really means to be a showgirl. If you love Taylor Swift analysis, pop culture history, Hollywood legends, and thoughtful lyric breakdowns, this episode is for you. Elizabeth Taylor. Do you think it’s forever? This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Thank you for listening and loving Taylor with us! Chime in anytime to share your thoughts.. There are lots of ways to reach us!  Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive  Lobster Lounge: station.page/13  Contact the Podcast  Voicemail: (689) 214-1313  Email: the13podcast@gmail.com  Instagram: @the13podcast  TikTok: @the13podcast  Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast  YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast  Follow the Hosts  Ana – @anaszabo13  Lacey – @laceygee13  Amy – @amysnichols  Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 27m
  3. FEB 24

    The Fate of Ophelia: Music Video Deep Dive

    In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we break down the details, Easter eggs, history, and symbolism in “The Fate of Ophelia” music video from The Life of a Showgirl album!  We dive into the one-take cinematography, the return of the Eras Tour dancers, and the many different kinds and looks of showgirls. We also discuss the nods to Travis Kelce and this specific moment in history, the orange songbird symbolism, and the deeper meaning behind some of the imagery. Plus, how does this video set the tone for the entire album? And which TLOASG track do we think deserves the next music video? If you’re also in your Showgirl era or just into all things Taylor Swift, this episode (and entire podcast!) is especially for you!  Thank you for listening and loving Taylor with us! Chime in anytime to share your thoughts.. There are lots of ways to reach us! This podcast is sponsored by Liquid I.V. Go to http://liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first order with code TAYLORSWIFTFAN at checkout.  Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13  Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast  Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    39 min
  4. FEB 17

    The Fate of Ophelia

    We’re diving into “The Fate of Ophelia,” the powerful opening track from The Life of a Showgirl — and there is so much to unpack. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we break down the lyrics, literary references, and hidden layers that make this one of Taylor Swift’s strongest album openers yet. This song is layered, intentional, and a twist on a classic story. We discuss: The Shakespeare and Hamlet references woven into the lyrics The music theory detail that mirrors Shakespeare’s structure How this track connects to The Tortured Poets Department The double narrative theory: the Travis Kelce love story or masters reclamation? The Ophelia painting vs. the album imagery Records broken by “Fate of Ophelia” on the charts Is this Taylor’s most sophisticated pop opener yet? Did she rewrite Ophelia’s tragic ending into a modern love story? And what do you think this song is about? We’re breaking it all down — line by line! What did we miss? What opening album track is your fav? There are lots of ways to reach us! This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN.  Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive  Lobster Lounge: station.page/13  Contact the Podcast  Voicemail: (689) 214-1313  Email: the13podcast@gmail.com  Instagram: @the13podcast  TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast  YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast  Follow the Hosts  Ana – @anaszabo13  Lacey – @laceygee13  Amy – @amysnichols  Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    50 min
  5. FEB 10

    SwifTEA: Initial Opalite Music Video Reactions & Theories

    It's a full-on SwifTEA catch-up with Ana, Lacey, and Amy as Taylor Swift drops the Opalite music video—and the Swiftie world goes into instant investigation mode. We break down first reactions, hidden metaphors, the potential mall comeback, rock vs. cactus discourse, and the Easter eggs fans are already clocking. We also discuss other Taylor Swift news, including Grammy after-party sightings, Jack Antonoff rumors, the Travis Kelce confession, the celebrity beef no one saw coming, and why fans are once again spiraling over what Taylor might be teasing next. It’s a classic SwifTEA episode—part deep dive, part Swiftie group chat—as we catch up, connect the dots, and spiral just enough. With even more Opalite theories already forming and bigger conversations ahead, consider this the warm-up before the real breakdowns begin. Grab your tea, keep the volume up, and we’ll see you in the next episode.  Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive  Lobster Lounge: station.page/13  Contact the Podcast  Voicemail: (689) 214-1313  Email:  the13podcast@gmail.com  Instagram: @the13podcast  TikTok: @the13podcast  Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast  YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast  Follow the Hosts  Ana – @anaszabo13  Lacey – @laceygee13  Amy – @amysnichols  Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    48 min
  6. FEB 3

    Ana’s Solo Show: Swiftie Questions, Deep Feels & Revisiting the Eras

    This week on 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we’re doing something a little different. Due to a winter storm hitting Texas and throwing off recording schedules, Ana hops on the mic for a special solo Swiftie Q&A episode—and it ended up feeling like a warm, one-on-one check-in with the community. After opening up questions on Instagram, Ana answers everything from which Taylor Swift album she’d relive for the first time, to top five albums right now, to which songs she skips (yes, it depends on the mood). She reflects on the magic of hearing Midnights for the first time, revisits beloved eras like Red, Speak Now, and 1989, and shares why The Tortured Poets Department continues to hit differently now that we’re stepping into the Showgirl era. Ana also dives into: What newer Swifties may have missed pre-folklore Dream Taylor Swift music videos that never happened Songs she’d love to break down again Favorite non-Taylor artists she’s listening to right now Whether live events are coming back (Swifties in the City fans, take note!) This solo bonus is equal parts Swiftie nostalgia, thoughtful reflection, and emotional connection, and it sets the stage perfectly for what’s coming next as 13 begins its deep dive into The Life of a Showgirl, starting with Fate of Ophelia. Grab your cardigans, get cozy, and hang out with us—because even when plans change, the Swiftie community always shows up.  Stay warm, take care of yourselves, and we’ll see you next week. This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN.  Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive  Lobster Lounge: station.page/13  Contact the Podcast  Voicemail: (689) 214-1313  Email: the13podcast@gmail.com  Instagram: @the13podcast  TikTok: @the13podcast  Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast  YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast  Follow the Hosts  Ana – @anaszabo13  Lacey – @laceygee13  Amy – @amysnichols  Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    25 min
  7. JAN 20

    The Life of a Showgirl Prelude: The Prologue

    Before we rank the songs. Before we dissect lyrics. Before we take a peek behind the curtain…  We’re starting where Taylor Swift wanted us to start: the prologue. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we gather around the opening poetry of The Life of a Showgirl—the interconnected prologues released across the album’s five variants—and discuss the meaning behind them. These poems aren’t just bonus content. They’re a thesis statement. A behind-the-curtain look at what it means to live, love, perform, endure, and choose this life again and again. We break down each prologue piece by piece, the imagery, the metaphors, and the emotional weight behind lines that pull back the glitter to reveal the cost of show business. This episode unpacks how Taylor frames the entire album before a single song even plays. We discuss:• How the five variant poems form one cohesive story• The physical, emotional, and psychological toll of life onstage• The crowd as comfort and threat• The quiet joy and grounding love woven into the chaos• What these poems tell us about where Taylor was—and who she is now This episode is intentionally the foundation for everything to come. It’s the lens through which the rest of The Life of a Showgirl should be heard. If you’ve ever skipped the prologue, this is your sign not to. And if you’ve read it before, trust us—you haven’t heard it like this. Pull up a chair.Read between the lines.The curtain is officially up.  The Life of a Showgirl era begins here. This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN.  Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive  Lobster Lounge: station.page/13  Contact the Podcast  Voicemail: (689) 214-1313  Email: the13podcast@gmail.com  Instagram: @the13podcast  TikTok: @the13podcast  Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast  YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast  Follow the Hosts  Ana – @anaszabo13  Lacey – @laceygee13  Amy – @amysnichols  Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    51 min
4.6
out of 5
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13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast is a deep dive into everything Taylor Swift, her extensive discography, and all of her accomplishments. She is literally The Man of the music industry, after all. Join Nick Adams, Ana Szabo, Amy Nichols and Lacey Gee every Tuesday as they break down a Taylor Swift song (TV only, of course, depending on which era we are currently in... What Era are we even in anyway?) and answer questions such as... Who was the inspiration behind that song? What connection ties this song to previous ones? Which bridge is our favorite to cross? How many Easter eggs have we yet to uncover? What does Taylor Swift put on her charcuterie boards? What does she smell like? And most importantly, what every Swiftie really wants to know…. What’s next?! But like a good Mastermind taught us, always be on the lookout! Be sure to subscribe to 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast so you’ll be the first to know anytime we drop an emergency SwifTea episode. We can be a bit chaotic when the SwifTea is piping hot. Follow the show on Instagram & TikTok @the13podcast and on X @the13TSpodcast CONTACT THE PODCAST! Email – the13podcast@gmail.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast FOLLOW US! Ana - https://www.instagram.com/anaszabo13 Lacey – https://www.instagram.com/laceygee13 Amy – https://www.instagram.com/amysnichols Nick – https://www.instagram.com/nickadamsonair This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own.

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