The Horse Show Podcast by Pegasus

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Explore the horse show economy with Pegasus founders Sam and Jen

  1. 4D AGO

    Advancing Performance Horse Care with Dr. Liberty Getman: Regenerative Medicine & Emerging Research

    Pegasus Co-Founder Jen Tankel is joined by Dr. Liberty Getman, DVM, DACVS, Equine Technical Services with Zoetis. As advancements in equine medicine continue to evolve, regenerative medicine devices are playing an increasingly important role in supporting performance horses.  In this episode, Dr. Liberty Getman breaks down how these devices are used in practice today, from joint therapies to the research guiding treatment decisions. We explore how veterinarians approach different options, what horse owners can expect from treatment timelines, and why factors like metabolic health and conditions like PPID matter more than many realize.  This conversation brings clarity to a complex topic, helping owners and competitors better understand the science behind longevity, soundness, and performance. Has your horse experienced lameness? Did you know that your veterinarian can use the healing power of your horse’s own blood to help manage lameness, joint pain, and more? The Pro-Stride ® APS regenerative medicine device is designed to help keep horses feeling and performing their best. Ask your vet if Pro-Stride APS may be a great option to help support your horse’s joint health journey. Zoetis is always by your side in the barn, down the centerline, and everywhere in between. About Zoetis Equine:  Guest: Liberty Getman, DVM, DACVS, Equine Technical Services, ZoetisResearch Release: Metabolic Effects of Pro-Stride® APS and Triamcinolone Acetonide Compared in Recent ResearchResearch Release: Research Informs Use of Regenerative Medicine Devices in Horses With Cushing’s DiseaseSocial: Follow @ZoetisEquine on Instagram and FacebookBlog: For more horse health tips, visit the Always by Your Side blog 🐴 This episode is brought to you by Pegasus. Pegasus is the game-changer horse shows have been waiting for. It’s the first modern, cloud-based platform built just for equestrian events—free to use, no contracts, and ready for any discipline, anywhere.  From fast entries to real-time results, Pegasus makes shows run smoother for organizers and easier for riders to stay informed and on schedule. Check it out at www.thepegasus.app To stay up to date with the latest from Pegasus, head to LinkedIn,  Instagram,  Facebook, TikTok and subscribe to The Oxer, the #1 weekly newsletter for global equestrian industry happenings. 🗞️

    46 min

  2. APR 20

    Dr. Abby Sage on Deworming: What Horse Owners Need to Know (AAEP Update)

    Pegasus Co-Founder Jen Tankel is joined by Dr. Abby Sage, VMD, MS, DACVIM, Equine Technical Services Veterinarian with Zoetis. As deworming practices evolve, what horse owners think they should be doing may no longer be best practice. In this episode, Dr. Sage breaks down the latest American Association of Equine Practitioners (AAEP) guidelines and what they actually mean for your horse. From why “more dewormer” isn’t always better to how fecal egg counts are changing the game, this conversation covers the science behind smarter, more targeted parasite control so you can make informed decisions heading into the grazing season.  Have you ever wondered, “how much dewormer does my horse actually need?” Healthy adult horses may need less than you think. But not all active ingredients are the same. Use Quest® Gel, with moxidectin, for the early grazing season, and Quest® Plus Gel, with moxidectin and praziquantel, for the late grazing season. Visit ZoetisEquine.com for more deworming resources. Consult your veterinarian for assistance in the diagnosis, treatment, and control of parasitism.  About Zoetis Equine:  Guest: Abby Sage, VMD, MS, DACVIM, Equine Technical Services Veterinarian, Zoetis Website: Learn About Targeted Deworming YouTube: Worms of Concern Rap SongAAEP: Updated 2024 Deworming Guidelines IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION  Do not use Quest Gel or Quest Plus Gel in foals less than 6 months of age or in sick, debilitated and underweight horses. Do not use these products in other animal species, as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in dogs, may result. Consult your veterinarian for assistance in the diagnosis, treatment, and control of parasitism.    References  American Association of Equine Practitioners. 2024 Revised AAEPinternal parasite control guidelines. https://aaep.org/post/aaep-publishes-updated-internal-parasite-control-guidelines/. Young A, Finno C. Intestinal Parasites in Horses. School of Veterinary Medicine, University of California, Davis. August 12, 2022. https://ceh.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/health-topics/intestinal-parasites-horses. Mason ME, Voris ND, Ortis HA, et al. Comparison of a single dose of moxidectin and a five-day course of fenbendazole to reduce and suppress cyathostomin fecal egg counts in a herd of embryo transfer-recipient mares. J Am Vet Med Assoc. 2014;245(8):944-951. Reinemeyer CR, Prado JC, Nielsen MK. 🐴 This episode is brought to you by Pegasus. Pegasus is the game-changer horse shows have been waiting for. It’s the first modern, cloud-based platform built just for equestrian events—free to use, no contracts, and ready for any discipline, anywhere.  From fast entries to real-time results, Pegasus makes shows run smoother for organizers and easier for riders to stay informed and on schedule. Check it out at www.thepegasus.app To stay up to date with the latest from Pegasus, head to LinkedIn,  Instagram,  Facebook, TikTok and subscribe to The Oxer, the #1 weekly newsletter for global equestrian industry happenings. 🗞️

    23 min

  3. MAR 29

    Dr. Jeff Hall on Equine Sedation: What Horse Owners Should Know

    Pegasus Co-Founder Jen Tankel is joined by Dr. Jeff Hall, DVM, Managing Equine Technical Services Veterinarian with Zoetis.  Dr. Hall explains what sedation is, how different types of sedatives work and what questions to ask your vet before various procedures.  This episode is brought to you by Zoetis. Need a helping hand to care for your horse? Prescription Dormosedan Gel® by Zoetis is easily administered under your horse’s tongue. Speak with your veterinarian to see if Dormosedan Gel is right for your horse. For more veterinary-informed solutions, visit ZoetisEquine.com or follow along on Instagram and Facebook @ZoetisEquine for horse care tips and resources.  Learn More: Equine Sedation—A Comprehensive Guide for Horse Owners Dormosedan® Gel Info: Webpage with Resources and Administration Guide Video: How to Dose Dormosedan Gel Prescribing Information: Dormosedan Gel and Dormosedan Sterile Solution USEF/FEI: Withdrawal Guidelines Social Media: @ZoetisEquine on Instagram & Facebook IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION  IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION: Do not use Dormosedan Gel in anesthetized or sedated horses, or in conditions of shock, severe debilitation, or stress due to extreme heat, cold, fatigue or high altitude. Handle gel-dosing syringes with caution to avoid direct exposure to skin, eyes, or mouth. See full Prescribing Information at www.DormGel.com/PI. All trademarks are the property of Zoetis Services LLC or a related company or a licensor unless otherwise noted. Dormosedan is a registered trademark of Orion Corporation, distributed by Zoetis under license.  © 2025 Zoetis Services LLC. All rights reserved. DOR-00157  🐴 This episode is brought to you by Pegasus. Pegasus is the game-changer horse shows have been waiting for. It’s the first modern, cloud-based platform built just for equestrian events—free to use, no contracts, and ready for any discipline, anywhere.  From fast entries to real-time results, Pegasus makes shows run smoother for organizers and easier for riders to stay informed and on schedule. Check it out at www.thepegasus.app To stay up to date with the latest from Pegasus, head to LinkedIn,  Instagram,  Facebook, TikTok and subscribe to The Oxer, the #1 weekly newsletter for global equestrian industry happenings. 🗞️

    1h 3m
  4. Built to Fit: The Schleese Saddlery Story

    06/19/2025

    Built to Fit: The Schleese Saddlery Story

    The truth about saddle fitting will transform how you think about equestrian equipment forever. Master saddle maker Jochen Schleese pulls back the curtain on centuries of tradition to reveal shocking facts about how conventional saddles damage both horses and riders. A defining moment came when Schleese's own competitive horse was eliminated from team selection due to mysterious, intermittent lameness. Years later, he witnessed groundbreaking research showing how traditional saddle designs slowly destroy shoulder cartilage – the exact issue that ended his horse's career. This revelation became his life's mission: to revolutionize saddle design using scientific principles rather than outdated traditions. The conversation takes a fascinating turn when Schleese explains how a gynecologist's anatomical insights transformed saddle design for female riders. Despite women comprising the vast majority of equestrians worldwide, most saddles are still built around male pelvic structures, causing discomfort and potential health issues for women. Through pelvis casts and biomechanical studies, Schleese pioneered gender-specific designs that accommodate fundamental differences in human anatomy. You'll discover why "follow the money" explains the prevalence of poorly fitted saddles, how to identify ethical versus unethical saddle fitters, and practical tips for finding equipment that serves both you and your horse. Whether you're a competitive rider or weekend enthusiast, this episode provides crucial knowledge to protect your horse's welfare and enhance your riding experience. Head to https://schleese.com/ to learn more about scientifically-designed saddles that prioritize both horse anatomy and rider comfort.  🐴 This episode is brought to you by Pegasus. Pegasus is the game-changer horse shows have been waiting for. It’s the first modern, cloud-based platform built just for equestrian events—free to use, no contracts, and ready for any discipline, anywhere.  From fast entries to real-time results, Pegasus makes shows run smoother for organizers and easier for riders to stay informed and on schedule. Check it out at www.thepegasus.app To stay up to date with the latest from Pegasus, head to LinkedIn,  Instagram,  Facebook, TikTok and subscribe to The Oxer, the #1 weekly newsletter for global equestrian industry happenings. 🗞️

    1h 20m
  5. Lyndsey Dillon: Buying & selling horses - a survival guide

    05/21/2025

    Lyndsey Dillon: Buying & selling horses - a survival guide

    Lyndsey Dillon, an equestrian lawyer based in Ireland with practicing certificates across multiple countries, shares her expertise on protecting all parties in horse transactions with special attention to riders' often overlooked interests. If you buy and sell horses - even to a neighbor down the road - you don't want to miss this episode. Key Themes and Takeaways 🧑‍⚖️ 0:07 – Riders Deserve Commission Riders who produce and compete horses should receive a commission (~10%) upon sale.If an owner resists putting that in writing, it’s a red flag they never intended to honor it.🎙️ 0:37 – Overview of Episode Covers: (1) Owner–Rider relationships, (2) Legal process of horse sales, (3) The role and risks of agents.📍 2:05 – Lyndsey’s Background Equine-focused lawyer, licensed in Ireland, England & Wales.Primarily works remotely, attends select horse shows and consultations in person.📘 5:18 – What Equine Lawyers Actually Do Services include: liability waivers, NDAs (less powerful in Europe), bill of sale contracts, staff employment contracts, syndicate structures.Her niche: Advocating for riders, who are often legally unrepresented yet central to the horse’s value.🏇 11:27 – Rider Contracts and Commission Agreements Lyndsey drafts agreements protecting riders’ rights to a future commission if a horse they’ve developed is sold—especially if sold shortly after being pulled from their program.📚 13:09 – Equine Law is a Patchwork of Other Legal Fields It blends litigation, contract law, tort law, employment law, and commercial law.No formal “equine law” discipline in law school—must be self-taught through experience.💸 15:28 – Riders Are Often Exploited Financially Without contracts, riders lose rights to commissions or credit for increasing a horse’s value.Protecting these interests early avoids major disputes later.📈 17:45 – Commission Standards 10% is typical for riders, but can vary based on seniority, results, and negotiating power.Riders are advised to ask early—most owners won’t volunteer it.⚖️ 20:54 – Riders Often Don’t Feel Empowered to Ask Many fear losing access to owners if they seem “difficult.”Especially true for less wealthy riders who rely on owners for top horses.🏢 23:53 – Most Riders Are Running Complex Businesses Many riders manage staff, facilities, schedules, clients—yet rarely receive the legal protections afforded to owners and buyers.📉 28:40 – Shortage of Knowledgeable Equine Lawyers There’s demand, but quality matters. Lawyers need sport-specific insight to draft enforcea 🐴 This episode is brought to you by Pegasus. Pegasus is the game-changer horse shows have been waiting for. It’s the first modern, cloud-based platform built just for equestrian events—free to use, no contracts, and ready for any discipline, anywhere.  From fast entries to real-time results, Pegasus makes shows run smoother for organizers and easier for riders to stay informed and on schedule. Check it out at www.thepegasus.app To stay up to date with the latest from Pegasus, head to LinkedIn,  Instagram,  Facebook, TikTok and subscribe to The Oxer, the #1 weekly newsletter for global equestrian industry happenings. 🗞️

    1h 24m
  6. Horses for Mental Health, Expanding the Hoofprint for Healing

    04/16/2025

    Horses for Mental Health, Expanding the Hoofprint for Healing

    In this special episode of the Pegasus Podcast, we explore the powerful connection between horses and healing.  Host Jen Tankel is joined by three incredible guests: Lynn Thomas, Co-Founder of Horses for Mental Health; Jen Grant, Head of Marketing at Zoetis Equine; and Seen Through Horses ambassador Jodie Morton.  Together, they discuss how horses are playing a transformative role in mental health services, the impact of the Seen Through Horses campaign, and their shared mission to raise awareness and support for equine-assisted therapy. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone who believes in the healing power of horses. Join the Seen Through Horses Campaign: Social Media: @horsesformentalhealth on Instagram and FacebookWebsite: horsesformentalhealth.orgDonate: horsesformentalhealth.org/donateVideo: Veterinarian Mental Health & The Power of HorsesConnect with Ambassador, Jodie Morton: Social Media: @greengoldandblues on Instagram and FacebookWebsite: greengoldandblues.comLearn More About Zoetis Equine:  Social Media: @zoetisequine on Instagram and FacebookWebsite: ZoetisEquine.comBlog: Expanding the Hoofprint for HealingVideo: Long Live the HorseReference: National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI). Mental health by the numbers. NAMI. https://www.nami.org/about-mental-illness/mental-health-by-the-numbers/. Accessed January 2, 2025. GEQ-01320   🐴 This episode is brought to you by Pegasus. Pegasus is the game-changer horse shows have been waiting for. It’s the first modern, cloud-based platform built just for equestrian events—free to use, no contracts, and ready for any discipline, anywhere.  From fast entries to real-time results, Pegasus makes shows run smoother for organizers and easier for riders to stay informed and on schedule. Check it out at www.thepegasus.app To stay up to date with the latest from Pegasus, head to LinkedIn,  Instagram,  Facebook, TikTok and subscribe to The Oxer, the #1 weekly newsletter for global equestrian industry happenings. 🗞️

    1h 5m
  7. Scott Neuman, AQHA - Western horse shows and the challenges they face

    03/25/2025

    Scott Neuman, AQHA - Western horse shows and the challenges they face

    Scott Neuman, Director of Competitions and International Memberships for the American Quarter Horse Association, offers a candid look at the evolving landscape of Western equestrian competitions in this revealing conversation. Neuman shares his eye-opening research that no horse show manager reported being able to run a profitable event with fewer than 100 stalls booked—a threshold that many smaller venues simply cannot reach. This startling reality frames our discussion about why local shows are disappearing while major events continue to grow. The conversation traces how America's shift from family farming to corporate agriculture has fundamentally altered Western horse sports. As people moved from rural to urban settings, horse ownership transformed from an affordable backyard activity to an expensive proposition requiring boarding facilities. This economic shift created a cascade effect: higher costs led to demand for better quality horses, which in turn drove competitors toward premium show venues with superior amenities. Despite these challenges, Neuman highlights innovative solutions the AQHA has implemented, including popular ranch-style events that connect back to Quarter Horses' heritage, beginner divisions that allow weekend leasing, and versatility competitions that appeal to a broad audience. These adaptations are helping maintain the crucial "pyramid" structure of the sport, where a broad base of participants eventually feeds the upper echelons of competition. Perhaps most fascinating is Neuman's insight into Western riding's international growth, particularly in Mexico, Brazil, and surprisingly, parts of Asia. The "Yellowstone effect" has reinvigorated global interest in ranch activities and Western horsemanship, creating opportunities for American expertise abroad. Whether you're a competitor, show manager, or equine business owner, this episode delivers crucial perspective on where Western horse sports have been and where they're headed. Listen now to understand the market forces shaping the industry's future. 🐴 This episode is brought to you by Pegasus. Pegasus is the game-changer horse shows have been waiting for. It’s the first modern, cloud-based platform built just for equestrian events—free to use, no contracts, and ready for any discipline, anywhere.  From fast entries to real-time results, Pegasus makes shows run smoother for organizers and easier for riders to stay informed and on schedule. Check it out at www.thepegasus.app To stay up to date with the latest from Pegasus, head to LinkedIn,  Instagram,  Facebook, TikTok and subscribe to The Oxer, the #1 weekly newsletter for global equestrian industry happenings. 🗞️

    59 min
  8. Caring for Elite Equine Athletes Competing on the World Stage with Dr. Liberty Getman

    09/16/2024

    Caring for Elite Equine Athletes Competing on the World Stage with Dr. Liberty Getman

    Pegasus App Co-Founder and Pegasus Podcast Co-Host Jen Tankel talks to Dr. Liberty Getman, DVM, DACVS, Equine Technical Services, a distinguished board-certified equine surgeon and sports medicine specialist, about how elite equine athletes are meticulously trained and cared for. Learn the secrets behind maintaining a horse's health, addressing lameness, and optimizing performance, all while drawing parallels between human athletes and the athletic demands of the horses she treats. -- Every equestrian competitor knows, a great performance horse score requires the right balance of preparation, feel, and focus. It also requires a happy, healthy horse. Zoetis has been supporting horses, riders, and veterinarians for more than 70 years. With regenerative medicine devices like Pro-Stride APS, Zoetis is always by your side in the barn, down the centerline, and everywhere in between. Be sure to Visit ZoetisEquine.com or follow @Zoetis Equine on Facebook and Instagram to learn more.  -- Zoetis Equine Resources: Blog by Dr. Getman on Caring for Elite Equine Athletes Competing on the World Stage The Future of Equine Joint Management with Orthobiologics Zoetis Equine Lameness Solutions New Research Provides Clarity Around the Treatment of Equine Osteoarthritis References in the Episode: 1. Linardi R, Dodson M, Moss K, et al. The effect of autologous protein solution on the inflammatory cascade in stimulated equine chondrocytes. Frontiers Vet Sci. 2019;6(64):1-9. 2. Bertone AL, Ishihara A, Zekas LJ, et al. Evaluation of a single intra-articular injection of autologous protein solution for treatment of osteoarthritis in horses. Am J Vet Res. 2014;75(2):141-151. doi: 10.2460/ajvr.75.2.141. 3. Muir R, Reisbig N, Baria M, et al. The concentration of plasma provides additional bioactive proteins in platelet and autologous protein solutions. The American J of Sports Medicine. 2019;47(8):1955-1963. All trademarks are the property of Zoetis Services LLC or a related company or a licensor unless otherwise noted. © 2024 Zoetis Services LLC. All rights reserved. PRS-00082 🐴 This episode is brought to you by Pegasus. Pegasus is the game-changer horse shows have been waiting for. It’s the first modern, cloud-based platform built just for equestrian events—free to use, no contracts, and ready for any discipline, anywhere.  From fast entries to real-time results, Pegasus makes shows run smoother for organizers and easier for riders to stay informed and on schedule. Check it out at www.thepegasus.app To stay up to date with the latest from Pegasus, head to LinkedIn,  Instagram,  Facebook, TikTok and subscribe to The Oxer, the #1 weekly newsletter for global equestrian industry happenings. 🗞️

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