The Next Move

Erin Best

The NEXT MOVE Podcast by KIC Realty | The Future of Canadian Real Estate Starts Here The Future of Real Estate Isn’t Built on Real Estate Alone. The biggest shifts in real estate rarely start with a "For Sale" sign. They begin somewhere else. A government announces a new housing policy. A technology company launches an AI tool that changes how buyers search for homes. A lender updates its mortgage guidelines. An insurance provider rewrites how it assesses risk. A builder adopts a new construction method. A startup solves a problem the industry has simply accepted for years. Months later, sometimes years later - those decisions ripple through every corner of Canadian real estate. They change how homes are bought. They change how they're sold. How they're financed. How they're marketed. How they're built. And ultimately, how Canadians experience home ownership. By the time those changes become headline news, the professionals paying attention are already adapting. That's why The NEXT MOVE exists. Hosted by Erin Best, of KIC Realty, The NEXT MOVE is a Canadian real estate podcast that looks beyond today's headlines to explore the ideas, innovations, people and industries quietly shaping tomorrow's housing market. This isn't another podcast about sales tactics or market predictions. It's about understanding the forces changing real estate before they become impossible to ignore. Because if you understand what's coming next, you'll make better decisions today. What is The NEXT MOVE? The NEXT MOVE is KIC Realty's flagship podcast dedicated to exploring the future of Canadian real estate through conversations with the people influencing it from every direction. Each episode features a leader with a unique perspective on the industry. Sometimes that's a real estate broker. Sometimes it's a mortgage executive. Other times it's a housing economist, AI founder, PropTech entrepreneur, builder, policy advisor, insurance executive, urban planner, marketer, data scientist, or technology innovator. The guest changes. The question never does. "What's next in your world - and what does it mean for real estate?" That single question has the power to uncover trends long before they become common knowledge. Instead of asking people to explain what's already happened, we ask them to help us understand what happens next. Because tomorrow's successful real estate professionals won't simply react to change. They'll recognize it early enough to act on it. Why KIC Realty Created This Podcast At KIC Realty, we believe real estate is one of the most dynamic industries in Canada. It's influenced by technology. Finance. Government. Consumer behaviour. Marketing. Artificial intelligence. Construction. Insurance. Data. Policy. Economics. Climate. Design. Demographics. And yet, too often, conversations inside our industry stay inside our industry. We talk to each other. We attend the same conferences. We read the same reports. We recycle the same ideas. The NEXT MOVE was created to break that cycle. Because the future of real estate isn't being shaped exclusively by REALTORS®. It's being shaped by people solving problems across dozens of industries. If we want to become better advisors for our clients, we need to understand the bigger picture. That's exactly what this podcast delivers. Real Estate Doesn't Exist in a Vacuum Every home purchase is influenced by decisions most consumers never see. Interest rates affect affordability. Insurance availability influences lending. Building codes influence housing supply. Artificial intelligence changes how buyers search for properties. Government policy shapes housing affordability. Marketing technology changes how listings are discovered. Consumer expectations evolve every year. Climate resilience affects where people choose to live. Data influences investment decisions. Every one of these shifts eventually lands on the desk of a real estate professional.

Episodes

  1. 4d ago

    How to Start Investing in Canadian Real Estate with Only $5,000

    What if you could start earning steady, passive income from real‑estate , with just $5,000 in your pocket?  In today’s episode, we sit down with Natasha Phipps, a Calgary‑based real‑estate strategist with more than 18 years of experience, the founder of Phipps Real Estate Group, and co‑founder of WealthShare, a private real‑estate investment trust (REIT) that’s shaking up the Canadian market. From buying her first property before she turned 20 to battling severe health challenges that taught her the true value of a financial safety net, Natasha’s story is as inspiring as it is instructive. She explains how her early lessons- thanks to a mom who warned her that “renting is paying someone else’s mortgage” sparked a lifelong passion for turning real‑estate into passive wealth. We dive into: What WealthShare is – a low‑minimum ($5,000) multifamily REIT that lets everyday Canadians invest using TFSA, RRSP, or cash.Why multifamily in Alberta – the power of net operating income, debt pay‑down, and scalability versus single‑family homes.How the platform stays accessible – webinars, free education, transparent fee structures, and a board of independent trustees.The investor journey – from the first introductory call, through the exempt market dealer (EMD) process, to ongoing passive reporting.Common misconceptions – you don’t need a huge bankroll or endless time to invest, and the “other‑people‑money” hype is often overblown.Practical advice for newcomers – building credit, starting with 5‑10 K, and the mindset shifts that turn money into a tool rather than a stressor.Future plans – growth into Saskatchewan, strategic partnerships, and the next wave of capital‑raising in a cautious economy.Whether you’re a seasoned landlord, a curious first‑time investor, or a real‑estate professional looking to better serve clients, Natasha’s blend of personal grit, market expertise, and commitment to education offers a roadmap to building a resilient, passive‑income portfolio. Grab your coffee, settle in, and get ready to learn how real‑estate investing can be accessible, transparent, and profitable—the three words Natasha uses to describe WealthShare. Let’s make the next move together! Download your FREE "25-QUESTION DUE DILIGENCE GUIDE FOR PRIVATE REAL ESTATE INVESTORS" Connect with Natasha Phipps www.WealthShare.ca   insta  @natasha_phipps   @wealthsharereit Connect with Erin Best or KIC Realty : TheNextMove.KICRealty.com https://www.instagram.com/kicrealty/ "The content shared on this podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, tax, financial, or real estate advice. Every real estate transaction is unique. Always consult with a licensed local attorney, CPA, or real estate broker before making any investment decisions. The views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts."

    How to Start Investing in Canadian Real Estate with Only $5,000
  2. Sep 16

    Stop Chasing Leads. Start Owning the Relationship!

    What happens to the relationship between a real estate agent and their client after the transaction is over? In this episode of The Next Move Podcast powered by KIC Realty, Erin Best sits down with Scott Larter, Founder and CEO of BrokerBot, to explore the intersection of real estate, data, technology and the long term homeowner relationship. Scott brings more than a decade of experience in property and financial data, including his time with Opta, where he worked with data covering millions of residential and commercial properties across Canada. That experience ultimately led him to build BrokerBot, a platform designed to help real estate professionals use home values and property data to stay relevant with their clients. The conversation goes far beyond automated home valuations. Scott explains why the real opportunity isn't simply knowing what a home is worth. It is using relevant information to create a reason for homeowners to engage with their real estate professional throughout the year. They discuss how data is collected and updated, why Canadian real estate data is uniquely challenging, the importance of licensing and data integrity, and how permits, property updates and other information can create opportunities for more meaningful client conversations. But the biggest question of the episode is this: Who will have the primary relationship with the Canadian homeowner five years from now? As banks, insurance companies, technology platforms and major real estate websites compete for homeowner attention, Scott argues that agents need to do more than send another generic market update or birthday message. They need to remain relevant. In This Episode• How Scott went from selling BlackBerries to becoming a leader in Canadian property data • The experience at Opta that ultimately led to the creation of BrokerBot • Why home value became the hook for lead generation and client engagement • How BrokerBot approaches monthly home value updates • Why Canadian property data is more complicated than many people realize • The importance of data licensing, accuracy and integrity • How property permits can reveal opportunities for meaningful client outreach • Why homes don't stay the same and why property data needs to evolve • How technology can help agents nurture relationships after the transaction • Why client retention may be one of the biggest missed opportunities in real estate • The growing competition for the homeowner relationship • Why agents should not allow technology platforms to become the trusted advisor • How relevant data can create opportunities for meetings, listings, referrals and reviews • The biggest opportunity Scott sees in real estate data today The Bigger ConversationReal estate professionals spend enormous amounts of time and money generating new leads. But what happens after someone becomes a client? The transaction ends. The homeowner moves in. Life continues. That is where the relationship can either disappear or become more valuable. Scott believes data can create a reason for agents to stay connected without relying on generic communications. BrokerBot's approach uses the homeowner's property and changing home value as a recurring reason to reengage. The goal isn't simply another email. The goal is to remain relevant. Key Takeaways1. Data is only valuable when you leverage it properly. 2. The transaction isn't the end of the relationship. 3. Agents need to protect the relationship they worked so hard to build. Scott Larter theBrokerBot.ca thenextmove.kicrealty.com Disclaimer "The content shared on this podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, tax, financial, or real estate advice. Every real estate transaction is unique. Always consult with a licensed local

    Stop Chasing Leads. Start Owning the Relationship!
  3. Sep 2

    Scaling Condo Document Review Across Canada: Challenges, Solutions, and the Path Forward

    Buying a condo is different from buying a house. You're not just buying the unit. You're buying into the building. In this episode of The Next Move, Erin Best sits down with Nyle Macleod and Ewan May, Co-Founders of Condoscan, to explore what buyers and REALTORS® need to understand before purchasing a condo. From reserve fund studies and financial statements to bylaws, insurance policies, and board meeting minutes, condo documents can contain critical information about a property's future costs and risks. Nyle and Ewan share how Condoscan is using technology and human expertise to modernize the condo document review process—and why faster information isn't enough without proper interpretation. The conversation explores real examples where document reviews uncovered significant future financial obligations, including one buyer who negotiated $100,000 off a purchase after understanding the building's upcoming costs. They also discuss: The most common condo red flagsHow reserve funds actually workSpecial assessments and future financial risksCondo insurance and deductible coverageWhy new buildings aren't always risk-freeHow AI can help—and where it can failWhy REALTORS® should understand the documents their clients are reviewingThe future of condo data transparencyWhy finding the right building may matter more than finding the right unit The future of condo buying may not be about reviewing more information. It may be about understanding the right information earlier. Because the best purchase decisions happen before the surprises. ABOUT OUR GUESTSNyle MacleodCo-Founder, Condoscan Nyle brings a growth and business development perspective to Condoscan, working to build relationships with REALTORS®, brokerages and industry partners while helping modernize how condo information is accessed and understood. His focus is on making the process more transparent, efficient and easier for professionals and consumers to navigate. Ewan MayCo-Founder, Condoscan Ewan brings a product and technology-focused perspective to the company. The idea for Condoscan began after seeing firsthand how stressful and confusing condo document review could be for a buyer Learn more:The Next Move: thenextmove.kicrealty.com KIC Realty: kicrealty.com Condoscan: condoscan.ca Show Sign, sponsored by https://ritewaysigns.com/

    Scaling Condo Document Review Across Canada: Challenges, Solutions, and the Path Forward
  4. Sep 2

    The Next Move: Inside the Innovative Model Transforming Canada’s Real Estate Landscape

    Welcome to the first episode of The Next Move, hosted by Erin Best. For our inaugural conversation, Erin sits down with Ron McIntosh, Co-Founder and President of KIC Realty, to talk about the question that started it all: Why build another real estate brokerage? After decades in the industry, Ron saw a growing gap between what traditional brokerage models offered and what agents increasingly needed. More opportunity. More flexibility. More ownership. More transparency. And a greater voice in shaping the future of the companies they help build. In this conversation, Erin and Ron explore the evolution of the Canadian real estate industry, the rise of agent ownership, why technology won't replace great REALTORS®, and what the next generation of real estate professionals should be paying attention to now. And perhaps the biggest takeaway of all: The future belongs to the people willing to build before everyone else sees the opportunity. This is The Next Move. Let's talk about what's next. 🎙️ IN THIS EPISODE 00:00 Welcome to The Next Move 03:20 Building the model and launching KIC Realty 04:00 What problem was KIC Realty created to solve? 04:33 Why culture and agent involvement matter 05:54 How the vision for KIC has evolved 06:10 Why being Canadian created a bigger opportunity 08:36 What makes KIC Realty different? 10:11 Knowledge, Integrity and Community: more than buzzwords 13:16 Supporting agents and the communities they serve 14:28 Going against the grain and building a different model 17:12 Ron's biggest belief about the future of real estate 19:08 Retirement equity and the future of the agent 20:30 How real estate has changed over 30 years 21:31 Why agents are asking different questions today 22:19 The personal brand versus brokerage brand conversation 23:25 Why ownership creates stronger buy-in 25:59 What agents worry about today that may not matter in five years 26:35 Will AI replace REALTORS®? 27:43 Why technology is a tool, not a replacement 29:01 What agents are not paying enough attention to 35:24 The hardest part about building a brokerage 37:00 Why social proof is one of the biggest challenges 39:14 The mindset every new KIC agent should bring 40:35 Why getting involved matters 41:15 The biggest change coming to Canadian real estate 44:21 Biggest threat to the industry 44:49 The most overrated advice in real estate 49:42 What should every real estate professional pay attention to? 50:33 Can a Canadian company compete with the biggest American brands? 51:13 Real estate is never just about real estate 👤 ABOUT OUR GUEST Ron McIntosh Co-Founder & President, KIC Realty Ron McIntosh brings nearly three decades of experience in the real estate industry. Having grown up around the business and worked across traditional and evolving brokerage models, Ron has built his career around leadership, relationships, culture and helping agents succeed. As Co-Founder and President of KIC Realty, Ron is helping build a Canadian real estate company focused on: Knowledge. Integrity. Community. His vision is centred around creating more opportunity for agents, stronger communities, greater flexibility and a model where professionals can participate in building the future of the company they represent. 🌐 CONNECT WITH THE SHOW The Next Move Website: thenextmove.kicrealty.com Hosted by: Erin Best Presented by: KIC Realty Show Sign, sponsored by https://ritewaysigns.com/ 👍 IF YOU ENJOYED THIS EPISODE Please: 👍 Like this video 💬 Share your biggest takeaway in the comments 🔔 Subscribe for future episodes 📲 Share this conversation with a real estate professional who needs to hear it QUESTION OF THE EPISODE: What do you think is the next big move Canadian real estate needs to make? Drop your answer in the comments.  Connect with Erin Best or KIC Realty : TheNextMove.KICRealty.com #TheNextMove #CanadianRealEstate #RealEstatePodcast #KICRealty #RealEstateLeadership #FutureOfRealEstate

    The Next Move: Inside the Innovative Model Transforming Canada’s Real Estate Landscape
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    Welcome to The NEXT MOVE: A Canadian Conversation on Real Estate

    Welcome to the Conversation The NEXT MOVE isn't about predicting the future. It's about understanding it. One conversation. One insight. One question at a time. Because the professionals who shape tomorrow's real estate industry won't be the ones who waited for change to arrive. They'll be the ones who recognized it first. Welcome to The NEXT MOVE, a podcast from KIC Realty. Let's figure out what's next - together. Because the future of this industry won't be shaped by one profession. It will be built through collaboration across the entire real estate ecosystem. If you're someone who believes curiosity is a competitive advantage... If you're willing to challenge conventional thinking... If you're more interested in understanding where the industry is going than debating where it's been... You're exactly who we created this podcast for. Every episode is designed to help ambitious professionals stay ahead of change, understand emerging trends, and connect the dots between technology, housing, finance, policy, marketing and consumer behaviour. Not because change is coming. Because it's already here. At KIC Realty, we believe the strongest real estate professionals don't just react to change—they help shape it. That's why The NEXT MOVE isn't simply a podcast. It's a place where leaders from across the Canadian real estate ecosystem come together to share ideas, challenge assumptions and explore what's next. Whether you're leading a brokerage, building technology, financing homeownership, designing communities, creating housing policy or helping clients navigate one of the biggest decisions of their lives, you have a role to play in the future of this industry. And if you're committed to building a stronger profession through curiosity, collaboration and continuous learning, you're in the right place. Welcome to The NEXT MOVE. Meet Your Host: Erin Best has spent more than a decade working across multiple areas of Canadian real estate. She's sold homes. Led agents. Worked with real estate technology companies. Built training programs. Coached agents. Collaborated with industry leaders across Canada. And along the way, she's learned something simple. The best conversations begin with curiosity. Not certainty. The NEXT MOVE reflects that mindset. Instead of pretending to have every answer, Erin asks better questions. Questions designed to help listeners think differently. Challenge assumptions. See around corners. And leave every episode with one new idea they can apply. Why This Matters Now The real estate industry is changing faster than ever. Artificial intelligence is transforming how people search for homes. Consumers are asking AI assistants questions before they contact an agent. Search engines are evolving into answer engines. Video is replacing text. Trust is becoming more valuable than advertising. Consumers expect expertise—not just access. That means today's real estate professionals need to become educators. Trusted advisors. Problem solvers. Community experts. The NEXT MOVE was created to help make that transition easier. By learning from experts across multiple industries, we gain a more complete understanding of where real estate is heading. Knowledge becomes confidence. Confidence creates better conversations. Better conversations create better decisions. Why the Human Side of Real Estate Still Wins Technology isn't replacing great REALTORS®. It's raising the bar for everyone. Connect with Erin Best or KIC Realty : TheNextMove.KICRealty.com

    Welcome to The NEXT MOVE: A Canadian Conversation on Real Estate

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The NEXT MOVE Podcast by KIC Realty | The Future of Canadian Real Estate Starts Here The Future of Real Estate Isn’t Built on Real Estate Alone. The biggest shifts in real estate rarely start with a "For Sale" sign. They begin somewhere else. A government announces a new housing policy. A technology company launches an AI tool that changes how buyers search for homes. A lender updates its mortgage guidelines. An insurance provider rewrites how it assesses risk. A builder adopts a new construction method. A startup solves a problem the industry has simply accepted for years. Months later, sometimes years later - those decisions ripple through every corner of Canadian real estate. They change how homes are bought. They change how they're sold. How they're financed. How they're marketed. How they're built. And ultimately, how Canadians experience home ownership. By the time those changes become headline news, the professionals paying attention are already adapting. That's why The NEXT MOVE exists. Hosted by Erin Best, of KIC Realty, The NEXT MOVE is a Canadian real estate podcast that looks beyond today's headlines to explore the ideas, innovations, people and industries quietly shaping tomorrow's housing market. This isn't another podcast about sales tactics or market predictions. It's about understanding the forces changing real estate before they become impossible to ignore. Because if you understand what's coming next, you'll make better decisions today. What is The NEXT MOVE? The NEXT MOVE is KIC Realty's flagship podcast dedicated to exploring the future of Canadian real estate through conversations with the people influencing it from every direction. Each episode features a leader with a unique perspective on the industry. Sometimes that's a real estate broker. Sometimes it's a mortgage executive. Other times it's a housing economist, AI founder, PropTech entrepreneur, builder, policy advisor, insurance executive, urban planner, marketer, data scientist, or technology innovator. The guest changes. The question never does. "What's next in your world - and what does it mean for real estate?" That single question has the power to uncover trends long before they become common knowledge. Instead of asking people to explain what's already happened, we ask them to help us understand what happens next. Because tomorrow's successful real estate professionals won't simply react to change. They'll recognize it early enough to act on it. Why KIC Realty Created This Podcast At KIC Realty, we believe real estate is one of the most dynamic industries in Canada. It's influenced by technology. Finance. Government. Consumer behaviour. Marketing. Artificial intelligence. Construction. Insurance. Data. Policy. Economics. Climate. Design. Demographics. And yet, too often, conversations inside our industry stay inside our industry. We talk to each other. We attend the same conferences. We read the same reports. We recycle the same ideas. The NEXT MOVE was created to break that cycle. Because the future of real estate isn't being shaped exclusively by REALTORS®. It's being shaped by people solving problems across dozens of industries. If we want to become better advisors for our clients, we need to understand the bigger picture. That's exactly what this podcast delivers. Real Estate Doesn't Exist in a Vacuum Every home purchase is influenced by decisions most consumers never see. Interest rates affect affordability. Insurance availability influences lending. Building codes influence housing supply. Artificial intelligence changes how buyers search for properties. Government policy shapes housing affordability. Marketing technology changes how listings are discovered. Consumer expectations evolve every year. Climate resilience affects where people choose to live. Data influences investment decisions. Every one of these shifts eventually lands on the desk of a real estate professional.