The Leadership Line

Tammy Rogers and Scott Burgmeyer
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Leading people, growing organizations, and optimizing opportunities is not for the faint of heart. It takes courage, drive, discipline and maybe just a dash of good fortune. Tammy and Scott, mavericks, business owners, life-long learners, collaborators and sometimes competitors join forces to explore the world of work. They tackle real-life work issues – everything from jerks at work to organizational burnout. And while they may not always agree – Tammy and Scott’s experience, perspective and practical advice helps viewers turn the kaleidoscope, examine options and alternatives, and identify actionable solutions. 

  1. 2d ago

    Fear At Work

    Fear at work is not always loud. Sometimes it sounds like “I’ll just do it myself,” “I need one more data point,” or “I’ll deal with that person later.” We start with some Halloween energy, then get real about what actually scares leaders: bringing in a new hire and hoping they thrive, trusting a teammate with a long-time client, and living with the quiet pressure to deliver every time. We also trace how fear changes over a career. Early-stage business owners often fear cash flow and making payroll. Later, it becomes a leadership balancing act between delivery, sales, and marketing, especially in consulting firms that ride peaks and valleys. And then there is the deeper one that sticks around: the fear of losing something you love, whether that is the work itself, a client relationship, or a team you have grown attached to. From there, we zoom out to what we see in clients across executive leadership, middle management, and frontline teams: fear of being wrong that leads to overanalysis, fear of asking for help, and fear of making tough people decisions. We talk about control as the common thread behind burnout, disengagement, and the push for “work-life balance,” and we wrestle with a modern twist: when AI makes it easy to stop thinking and hand responsibility to a system. If you have ever delayed a hard call, held on too tight, or felt like control was slipping, this conversation will hit home.

  2. Oct 21

    Is Perfectionism a Form of Cowardice?

    Perfectionism sounds like a compliment until you live inside it. We start with some cold-weather banter and a not-so-humble ego, then cut straight into the real question: when does “being perfect” turn into cowardice, fear, and avoidance of vulnerability? We talk honestly about how perfectionism can be learned early, reinforced by family expectations, and carried into adulthood as a polished image that looks great in public while quietly hurting in private. From there we take it into leadership and workplace culture. We’ve seen teams stall because they refuse to iterate, insisting on getting it exactly right on the first pass even when the target isn’t clear yet. We break down the hidden cost of “wasted excellence,” when people over-engineer and over-polish work that’s pointed in the wrong direction, then feel crushed by feedback. If you’ve ever replayed a critique for days, missed a deadline because it “wasn’t ready,” or thought “you should have told me,” you’ll recognize the pattern fast. We also get practical about what to do instead: redefine perfect as “fit for purpose,” weigh the return on extra effort, and learn by doing. Along the way, we use a bread dough metaphor to show how overworking anything can make it tougher, including your life.  Subscribe for more conversations on growth mindset, healthy standards, feedback, leadership, and doing work that matters.

  3. Oct 14

    Stop Wasting Money On Engagement Surveys

    Engagement surveys feel like a harmless annual tradition until you realize what happens when you ask people for the truth and then do nothing with it. We dig into the real purpose behind employee experience surveys and why we think leaders should pause before launching another engagement survey just because it is “that time of year.” If you cannot explain why you’re gathering feedback and how you’ll act on it, the survey can actually cost you trust, time, and money. We also talk about the obsession with the engagement score itself. Many organizations lean on Gallup Q12 style questions and track a single “percent engaged” number, even though that figure has barely budged for decades. We unpack why chasing a small year-over-year change can become a distraction, and how to reframe HR analytics so the data supports better decisions instead of prettier dashboards. Then we get practical: we share the micro indicators managers should pay attention to, including voluntary turnover among high performers, attendance shifts, and sudden changes in PTO patterns. Those signals are often louder than a survey result, and they create an opportunity for leaders to check in with real care, offer flexibility, remove roadblocks, and strengthen day-to-day culture through relationships. If you’re responsible for employee engagement, culture, leadership, or people ops, this conversation will help you run smarter surveys, interpret results with more skepticism, and build a feedback loop that leads to action.

  4. Oct 7

    Bring Up Irrelevant Issues Like A Pro

    During World War II, the Office of Strategic Services, the predecessor to the CIA, published the Simple Sabotage Field Manual. It equipped ordinary citizens in German-occupied countries with ways to disrupt enemy organizations from within.   Some of its tactics to disrupt meetings? (These are exact quotes from the now-declassified manual): “Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.”“Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, resolutions.”“Refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to re-open the question of the advisability of that decision.”  There’s a reason these tactics were in a sabotage manual: they make it painfully difficult for a group to decide and move.   Next time your team does this, point out that they’re using sabotage techniques straight from a CIA handbook.

  5. Sep 30

    Doing Change Right

    Change is everywhere right now, but the real question is what separates the teams that steady themselves from the teams that spiral. We lean into what we are seeing organizations do well when change is thrust on them, especially when they cannot control the timing or the stakes. One of the biggest patterns: leaders who do not panic. They spend less time reacting, move faster into problem solving, and use any runway they have to plan farther out than the next few weeks.  We also get practical about what “doing change” actually looks like. We talk about naming change champions, putting real resources around transformation, and using an impact map to think through every role, every reporting line, and the reactions you can predict before they blow up your rollout. Then we go straight at a post-COVID reality many workplaces are navigating: clearer boundaries, more direct expectations, and honest conversations about whether this is still someone’s home. Done with respect, that clarity can be healthy for both the organization and the individual.  To close, we bring it down to the personal level with a tool that works in leadership and in life: decision criteria. From job offers to board-level tech choices, a short list of must-haves cuts through emotion and brings back a sense of control, which is exactly what people crave in the middle of change. If you want calmer change management, stronger leadership communication, and a more intentional culture, press play, and subscribe.

  6. Sep 23

    If You Don’t Trust Leadership Ask Why

    A small moment like moving a kid into a dorm can reveal a bigger truth: a lot of us are out of practice at sharing space, sharing control, and dealing with everyday friction. That shows up at work as touchiness, quick offense, and a constant tug-of-war over preferences, boundaries, and “my rights.” We dig into what’s behind that shift and why it can poison teamwork even in otherwise healthy organizational cultures. From there, we get practical about workplace conflict and emotional intelligence. We talk about the basics we’re supposed to learn early on: you’re not the only person in the room, you take turns, you share, and you don’t escalate every irritation into a battle. Then we zoom in on the hard part: balancing employee needs with client needs and the organization’s needs without turning everything into a scorecard. Fairness is real, but it rarely feels perfectly even on any single day. We also challenge the default story people tell themselves about leadership. If you don’t trust your boss or your executives, what keeps you there, and what would it look like to find a workplace you can respect? And before you assume the worst, we offer a simple move that changes everything: ask to understand. Sometimes leaders truly can’t share context because of legal, regulatory, or confidential constraints. Sometimes they think they explained it and it didn’t land. Either way, curiosity builds maturity, as long as it’s not being used to stall, punish, or “rip apart” a decision.

  7. Sep 16

    Performance That Actually Matters

    If your workplace performance metrics reward “busy,” you can end up with lots of motion and very little progress. We sit down to unpack why so many teams confuse activity with performance and how that mistake quietly corrodes results over time, from for-profit companies chasing the wrong KPIs to grant-funded organizations that can report meetings all day but still miss the outcomes funders actually want.  We share a simple, practical performance management framework we keep coming back to: behavior plus activity plus work product equals outcome. That structure helps us diagnose what is truly broken when results slip. Is the work product below the competence standard? Is the activity inefficient or aimed at the wrong target? Or is behavior undermining everything through conflict, unreliability, or the kind of “walk on eggshells” dynamic that slows the whole system down. We also talk about why focusing only on outcomes can create toxic shortcuts, and why behavior often operates like a multiplier in real team performance.  Then we get personal and practical: how leaders can set expectations early across all the buckets, not just technical quality, and how employees can regain control by focusing on what they can actually change. We dig into perfectionism, overengineering, and “wasted excellence,” including why delivering far beyond the requirement can drain capacity and even create problems for customers and teammates.

  8. Sep 9

    Stop Blaming Age Groups And Start Solving Work

    “I don’t want to stereotype, but…” is usually the start of a workplace mess. We dig into why so many teams blame Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, or Gen Z when things feel tense, even though the real friction is often about values, expectations, and lived experience. We’re honest about the uncomfortable part too: everyone judges. The question is whether we act on that judgment or use it as a signal to have a better conversation. We talk about what people believe they “owe” an organization and what an organization owes back. Does promotion require proving you can do the next job before you get it, or is that just unpaid labor dressed up as hustle? Why do younger employees want growth now, and why do long-tenured employees sometimes push back on change? Instead of turning those differences into insults, we focus on what’s right in each group: energy, innovation, optimism, historical context, and better decision-making when you put it together. Then we go practical with modern workforce strategy. If the talent landscape is shifting, what should leaders change to attract and retain great people? We challenge the 40-hour work week, explore 30–32 hour schedules, and debate “outcomes over hours,” including where that works and where customer-facing reality sets limits. We even pull in real-world scheduling examples from nursing and healthcare to prove flexibility can be designed. If you want less finger-pointing and more solutions, hit play, then subscribe, share with a leader on your team.

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Leading people, growing organizations, and optimizing opportunities is not for the faint of heart. It takes courage, drive, discipline and maybe just a dash of good fortune. Tammy and Scott, mavericks, business owners, life-long learners, collaborators and sometimes competitors join forces to explore the world of work. They tackle real-life work issues – everything from jerks at work to organizational burnout. And while they may not always agree – Tammy and Scott’s experience, perspective and practical advice helps viewers turn the kaleidoscope, examine options and alternatives, and identify actionable solutions. 

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  • Creator
    Tammy Rogers and Scott Burgmeyer
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    272
  • Rating
    Explicit
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