Dr Robert Malone joins Peter to discuss Homesteading for Health, the book he and his wife Jill developed over roughly two and a half years from farm essays, memoir, and policy writing. Robert describes recording the audiobook himself and credits Jill as the primary author and illustrator. The conversation covers the couple’s history of buying and rebuilding distressed properties, the equity they lost in the Great Recession, and the deed in lieu of foreclosure that followed. He uses that experience to argue that debt constrains choices and that younger people should avoid unnecessary borrowing. The discussion then turns to soil health: deep tillage and intensive farming damage microbial communities and reduce micronutrients, while regenerative practices—manure, compost, clover, and livestock—rebuild land. Robert also addresses food aid, industrial agriculture, and ultra-processed foods, arguing that well-intentioned interventions can undermine local farming and traditional diets. He closes by saying people do not need a large holding to begin; allotments, raised beds, window boxes, and small hydroponic setups are practical starting points. Buy 'Homesteading for Health: One Farm Family's Guide to Food, Land, and Self-Sufficiency' on Amazon https://a.co/d/06u9CcI3 The original inventor of mRNA and DNA vaccination technologies (1989, with nine issued patents); including DNA and RNA vaccination as well as in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection. Dr. Malone is a specialist in clinical research, medical affairs, regulatory affairs, project management, proposal management (large grants and contracts), vaccines and biodefense. This includes writing, developing, reviewing and managing vaccine, bio-threat and biologics clinical trials and clinical development strategies. He has been involved in developing, designing, and providing oversight of approximately forty phase 1 clinical trials and twenty phase 2 clinical trials, as well as five phase 3 clinical trials. He has served as medical director/medical monitor on both phase 1, phase 2 and phase 3 clinical trials, including those run at well-known vaccine-focused Clinical Contract Research Organizations. He has served as principal investigator on some of these. However, having witnessed the corruption and malfeasance by the US Government during the corona crisis, Dr. Malone has come to realize that the whole pubic health and vaccine enterprise must be re-evaluated. Connect with Dr Malone..... 𝕏 x.com/RWMaloneMD WEBSITE rwmalonemd.com/ maloneinstitute.org/ SUBSTACK malone.news Connect with Hearts of Oak... 𝕏 x.com/HeartsofOakUK WEBSITE heartsofoak.org/ PODCASTS heartsofoak.podbean.com/ SOCIAL MEDIA heartsofoak.org/connect/ SHOP heartsofoak.org/shop/ *Special thanks to Bosch Fawstin for recording our intro/outro on this podcast. Check out his art theboschfawstinstore.blogspot.com and follow him on 𝕏 x.com/TheBoschFawstin